*hratan

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There's still no conclusive evidence that this verb is from *hrītaną though.

CodeCat21:46, 24 August 2016

I could not find any conclusive evidence and that's why I have created a new entry for rit. It's rather uncommon outside Northern England, but can still be encountered in the Midlands. The etymology for rit is somewhat clearer.

Mountebank1 (talk)22:16, 24 August 2016
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Last edit: 02:49, 25 August 2016

On second thought, it is also unclear where the verb rit comes from. The Middle English Dictionary says that it derives from unattested Old English *rittan not *hrītan. rit is pronounced with a short i, by the way, and rat also has a short vowel.

Mountebank1 (talk)22:30, 24 August 2016

Another thing that keeps bugging me is that the verb rat has a form to-rat which is very similar to Dutch terijten and German zerreißen and as far as I know the verb rit does not have such a form. Why would it have such a form (i.e., to-rat) if it did not come from *hrītaną? I mean, there is a rather small number of words out there that are prefixed with to- in English (including dialects and late Middle English) and almost all such words have cognates in German, Dutch and other Germanic languages. How would you explain that?

Mountebank1 (talk)23:15, 24 August 2016

I fixed the etymology for rit the best I could. However, I am still not sure about what to do with rat.

Mountebank1 (talk)02:20, 25 August 2016

Ask at WT:ES maybe?

CodeCat02:22, 25 August 2016