Requests for Finnish etymologies

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Requests for Finnish etymologies

Nobody is actively working with Finnish etymologies. Thus, adding requests for them seems a bit pointless activity.

Hekaheka (talk)04:46, 12 November 2015

The entries still need etymologies though, even if there's nobody to provide them. I see it more as a "to do" list.

CodeCat13:45, 12 November 2015

No harm done, but there must be like 40,000 missing etymologies in Finnish.

Hekaheka (talk)18:54, 12 November 2015

Maybe one day I'll get around to adding them, like I'm doing now. Suffixes are much easier to get than other origins.

CodeCat18:55, 12 November 2015

All right, I idin't know that you are working on them. Keep up the good work. I was just worried of the possibility of accumulating a superlong page with a list of missing etymologies. I'm currently working with Finnish index which also has tens of thousands of red links to follow. It'll take years before I finish it.

Hekaheka (talk)14:28, 13 November 2015
 
 
 

I still take passes at cleaning up Finnish etymologies every now and then; having them tagged helps to keep track of what's done and what's not.

Tropylium (talk)19:31, 15 November 2015

I usually create Proto-Finnic pages if I feel confident enough that the term comes from Proto-Finnic. That means that it has to have attestations in at least the North and South Finnic groups, preferably the less standardised varieties. Finnish + Võro + Veps is an excellent distribution, Votic is also very good. Finnish + Karelian + Veps is probably too dubious, as is North Finnic + Estonian, because Estonian is known to have borrowed a fair number of terms from Finnish.

If I'm not confident in reconstructing a term, I put a request there instead and list the cognates I did find.

CodeCat20:04, 15 November 2015

A good use of caution. Words found in Finnish + Karelian + Veps alone would often include recent Russian loans, similarly Finnish + Karelian + Estonian would rake in lots of Swedish and even some Low German loans.

Tropylium (talk)01:56, 16 November 2015

"I usually create Proto-Finnic pages if I feel confident enough that the term comes from Proto-Finnic." Isn't that called "guessing" by another name?

Hekaheka (talk)17:40, 16 November 2015

The caution I described here is supposed to avoid guessing, and make sure that there is enough evidence for the reconstruction. If all Finnic languages agree on a form, there's no room left for guesswork.

CodeCat17:49, 16 November 2015