borrowing → bor
I'm a bit uncomfortable with how we're officially "canonicalising" the shortcut forms the way we did with {{lb}}
. The shortcuts are redirects to longer forms. If we're not going to allow the longer forms, why even have them? I think we should just leave shortcuts as shortcuts and long forms as long forms. That's why, when the time came to orphan {{context}}
, I renamed them accordingly: long to long, short to short.
When the {{label}}
→ {{lb}}
vote passed, I posted a request in the BP and you volunteered to do the change, that's why I came here directly to you to see if you would like to convert the {{borrowing}}
→ {{bor}}
. I disagree with your idea of leaving shortcuts as shortcuts and long forms and long forms, but feel free to decline my request, I'm OK with it and I intend to post a request in the BP later. (I should learn how to run a bot by myself!)
Re: "The shortcuts are redirects to longer forms. If we're not going to allow the longer forms, why even have them?" Allow me to try and give a rather long answer.
I don't know, I suppose having both redirects and longer forms was your idea? I don't exactly care about having "short template name" -> "long template name" redirects as long as people can agree on using only the short forms in entries. I mean, I believe you decided exactly all these redirect names, but I didn't check one by one: {{m}}
, {{l}}
, {{ux}}
, {{der}}
, {{bor}}
, {{inh}}
.
WhatLinksHere for {{inherited}}
in the main namespace = 35,082 entries. WhatLinksHere for {{inh}}
in the main namespace = 34,922 entries. {{inh}}
redirects to {{inherited}}
, so it follows that at least 160 entries use the longer form (0.45% of all entries). The difference between {{inh}}
and {{bor}}
is that {{inh}}
/{{inherited}}
were created together and mostly nobody is using the longer form; and {{borrowing}}
existed for 5 years before the {{bor}}
was introduced, so we used what we had, but {{bor}}
became popular quickly,as evidenced by the approximately 40% 66.6% of entries using {{bor}}
rather than {{borrowing}}
(the actual entry count is in the borrowing → bor vote) and the fact that the vote passed.
Still, as I said you don't have to do anything. I was not trying to convince you to change your mind, I just said what are my thoughts about the points you mentioned.