User talk:Bequw/archive2007

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Hi! What language/platform are you writing code on? Robert Ullmann 11:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I was going to use C++, but it appears everyone is using python, so I'm brushing up on that again.

Reflexive verbs[edit]

How are you planning to handle conjugations of Spanish reflexive verbs? Right now, policy is to have reflexive forms on the same entry page as non-reflexive. In other words lavarse should be defined on the lavar page. --EncycloPetey 23:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm updating the common conjugation templates so they can conjugate both ways (w/ an added parameter value). Where can I find out about policies, especially Spanish ones? I've looked on WT:AES, Wiktionary:Project - Spanish, and Wiktionary:Proyecto - Español but they aren't that detailed. I have no problem with the definitions on the same page (most dictionaries do this), though I think there should be redirects for the common reflexive forms (sentirse, etc.). --Bequw
Those are the best places to look, but not all the relevant policies have been set down officially yet. Many of them are still informally agreed upon following discussions in various community pages (such as the Beer Parlour). You might look in Entry layout explained, which is the core formatting and style guide, and look around at the other language-specific pages to see what's been done (there's a very good page Wiktionary:About Greek). Sometimes the relevant policy makes it into one such page, not not into all the languages where it applies. Otherwise, I'd suggest posting occasional questions in the Beer Parlour to stimulate people to write more helpful policy information down on WT:AES. That's the way that Latin and Ancient Greek have been working lately, and it's helped to flesh out those policies a bit. You might also ask User:Hippietrail, as I think he's been doing Spanish here longer than anyone else. --EncycloPetey 15:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Just to add to this, there is also a Wiktionary:About Spanish page, which needs some serious attention. Good work with the verb templates. I've been entering reflexive definitions on the same page as non-reflexive forms, using a {{reflexive}} tag, but I agree some form of redirects are needed too. Note we don't like "hard" redirects here, so it may be that lavarse should just say someething like "Reflexive infinitive form of lavar" (edit: oh - it does!). Hopefully now we have another contributor interested in Spanish some more debate will be generated... Widsith 14:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Soft redirects are better too, because then we can show the reflexive conjugations, which are non-trivial in the imperative voice and the gerund. And some reflexives differ from their sleaker counterparts (irse vs. ir). --Bequw 15:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


Synonyms at L2? ;-) should be L4, and definition line with # .... Robert Ullmann 18:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


Hi, seeing as you seem to be having fun with Spanish templates, do you know if this template or any of the related ones are ever used - I was going to RFD them, but I thought I would check with you first. Conrad.Irwin 23:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure. I've never used it. I don't imagine will need it very much now that most of the common (low numbered) articles have been made. --Bequw 18:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


I went to add a Tbot cat reference just about when you did ... ;-)

I am re-running the missing pages, from the 20.11.7 en.wikt and the 28.11.7 es.wikt. Should be available in a few minutes. Robert Ullmann 14:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Great! Thanks. --Bequw 17:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

es: templates[edit]

Very good to standardize them, but be careful of the ones that are intended for a single irregular verb, not a class, and are used only on that verb's entry (so as to, correctly, keep all the table cruft out of the entry; we could use it on the forms of that verb later too ;-). atañer and tañer have two different templates, neither is -ñer as a class. (possibly bad example, as they could be a class, but there are two different ones now ;-) Some may be a class as well. I'm sure you know all this, but it isn't just renaming ;-) Robert Ullmann 14:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

(Arg edit conflict). Basically I was going to use es-conj-*r (XXXX) names for conjugations that don't follow standard morphological rules (like ser or atañer because it's defective) and normal es-conj-****r for conjugations that do follow them regardless of how many verbs follow that patter. So tañer become es-conj-ñer and not es-conj-er (tañer). Seem good? --Bequw¢τ 14:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Sí. That's fine. (Sorry my comment was fairly murky, even with a revision ;-) Robert Ullmann 14:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Using pywikipedia on cygwin[edit]

If you're having the following error trying to use pywikipedia (nightly build 20th Dec 2007, with python 2.5) on cygwin on Windows XP, you need to install openssl.

File "", line 121, in <module>
  import re, md5, codecs, difflib, locale
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/", line 6, in <module>
  from hashlib import md5
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/", line 133, in <module>
  md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/hashlib/py", line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor
  import _md5
ImportError: No module named _md5

--Bequw¢τ 12:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Hello Bequw,
please send your real-name, your wikiname, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to zedler-admins.png. We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 00:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
P.S:Merry Christmas :)