User talk:Jberkel

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Ard suffix[edit]

I believe the roll back to the discussion on the suffix -ard is incorrect. -Ard does not have an inherent connotation of negativity. See Wizard, Spaniard, Picard, Montagnards etc Alexidb (talk) 13:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Spaniard, Montagnard, Picard are all borrowings from French, so the examples you added should go to French section of -ard. Most examples in English using -ard seem to be pejorative, wizard being an exception. Perhaps the definition could be slightly reworded, but it remains a mostly pejorative suffix. – Jberkel 14:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

dicionário de calão e expressões idiomáticas[edit]

Veio por este meio enviar este dicionário de calão e de expressões idiomáticas para criar as paginas para este dicionário Envio o link do dicionárioː --2001:8A0:F258:D301:9CDF:C1C3:7D1F:3D08 14:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Maillard terms[edit]

Why do you persist in removing this request when three of the four terms requested in it have neither yet been created, nor declined as unsuitable? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Maillard browning, Maillard reaction exist so I removed them from the list. The other terms are still listed. Where's the problem? – Jberkel 19:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
You amnended a comment signed by me so that it no longer says what I wrote. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to have stepped on your comment, but created entries are routinely removed from these pages to keep them manageable. In Special:Diff/61559068/61559325, you re-requested an entry which was already created at that point. – Jberkel 21:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


I don't see how your newly added sense is different. When you take part in a video call, you are transmitting real-time camera pictures over the net. Equinox 11:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

A webcam in the older sense is something you just look at (trojan coffee pot etc), and don't use for bidirectional video calls. But yes, maybe it could be merged into one sense. – Jberkel 12:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


About xurro as 'mess', I think it is more accurate as botch or bodge, a bad job, not sure if also 'mess'. This is catanyol, you won't find it in Catalan dictionaries, but in Spanish ca:churro. In that sense I would have said bunyol, another deformed pastry :-) --Vriullop (talk) 07:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vriullop: Thanks! Some of my companys seem to speak catanyol, I also noticed candau which is marked as castellanisme on ca:candau. Perhaps we need a similar label here. – Jberkel 08:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Sure, there is a lot of colloquial catanyol that has recently entered the language, and that is not normally found in literature or among speakers of traditionally Catalan-speaking families. --Vriullop (talk) 08:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


What do you think it means? You can defer to a person, you overvalue them 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

that being said, how is the definition quote unquote "law"? 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
and the definition for "simp" just says the word "defer" 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:21, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
"(slang) A man who foolishly overvalues and defers to a woman, putting her on a pedestal.
(slang, by extension) Someone who foolishly overvalues someone else and defers to them, putting them on a pedestal." - definition for simp 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
This is already covered by the first definition. – Jberkel 19:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
this time, i didn't even undo your edit. explain how it's "law" 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
you can always defer to a person in an informal scenario, as in a scenario that's not part of law 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive edits. There's no need to freak out. – Jberkel 19:53, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
yes/yep 2600:1700:BAD0:23C0:8193:662F:7997:C828 19:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

My image edits[edit]

Hello Jberkel,

I believed I was doing relevant images to illustrate the words. Contrary to what you suggest, I wasn't just taking image caption and adding it to all words. I used two different captions, and only added it to the most relevant words.

Above is the gallery of removed illustrations with captions (boldened word is the Wiktionary entry I used it for). The only one that may have been overkill was lifetime. Maaaybe active is not 100% perfect as well, but I made sure to put it to #5 definition, which was best. Do you believe that the images don't depict tourism, recreation, adventure and horseback?

I'm a beginner, so I'm going to ask for guidance at global discussion as well. Kind regards.

--Tupungato (talk) 12:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

☞ reply at User talk:Tupungato#ImagesJberkel 13:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

One-stop shop[edit]

You reverted translation to Spanish for one-stop shop: Spanish: {{t|es|ventanilla única}}.--BoldLuis (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

That was in December though, don't remember exactly, but it looks like it was my mistake. – Jberkel 17:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

pronunciation bot[edit]

If you do run the pron-bot again, bear in mind that some French audios are kinda misleading, often saying things like "l'avion" or "un choc" instead of just the lemma. I don't remember any other details about that issue. Yellow is the colour (talk) 13:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

I think the more recent recordings have better metadata, but there was the quality problem. Most of the good recordings come from the same small group of 5,6 editors anyway, so they could just be put on a whitelist. – Jberkel 13:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Full list of a user’s page creations[edit]

Hello, needed your help regarding this problem. Where do I get that for me? This shows only some of the pages I created, while the rest (like মা) do not appear. I saw that when I add a new language entry to an existing page, this happens. Is something amiss? Thank you! -- dictātor·mundī 14:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Inqilābī: Adding a new L2 header does not count as adding a new page in MediaWiki's view (it's a single page). In order to get these stats we would have to write our own tools which know about the way Wiktionary entries are structured. – Jberkel 21:46, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
I actually meant new entries… That’s a typo. on my part, sorry. Or even then is it the same? -- dictātor·mundī 07:42, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean, but you gave মা as an example. The page was created by User:Msasag, to which you added an Assamese entry later. This addition is not captured by any user stat right now. The page creator gets "all the credit" (and MediaWiki notifications). WT:STATS tracks changes in L2 headers, but is not concerned with user stats. – Jberkel 12:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

bequiffed citation[edit]

Hi. Does it really say "miserabalist" and not "miserabilist"? If so, please add {{sic}} to indicate authorial error. Equinox 00:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


Just in case no one has ever mentioned this to you, rollbacks are supposed to be for reverting vandalism. Humorous example sentences for vulgar words are not vandalism. If you don't like Masterbutter's example sentences, you can replace them. To me it looks like vandalism when you revert content that is potentially useful to people who don't get excited about learning to ask for directions to hotels and restaurants and learn languages by learning words they might actually use. Cheers. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 18:08, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

While restoring Masterbutter's goofy example sentences, I noticed that several of his edits included fixes to formatting and templates. Reverting him without looking at stuff like that is definitely more like vandalism than anything I can find among his edits. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 18:17, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
To be clear it's not about the vulgar content, but most example sentences are either nonsense or completely generic and interchangeable ("I will masturbate all day", "I'm grumpy because I didn't masturbate", "You masturbate too much", "He drank a pint of butter"). These don't really illustrate anything (besides the editor's obsession with masturbation). Some have grammatical errors. And mixing trivial cosmetic changes with bogus edits is always a good strategy to argue for keeping your content. – Jberkel 18:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion generic and interchangeable examples are among the most important. They demonstrate some basic grammatical constructions and common phrases. If one can't say simple stuff in a language, there's no chance of them being able to build something useful on it. I can't comment on whether the grammatical errors are real errors or just unusual phrasings, but errors can at least be fixed. And I don't think the cosmetic errors are trivial; we templatize things for a wide variety of reasons. But my argument wasn't that template formatting should be linked directly to added usage examples, but that one should check for the former before blindly reverting the latter. Reformatting use examples to use the templates can be a really boring endeavor so I'm glad someone is doing it once in a while, you know? — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 23:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I don't agree, generic examples lack context, "I'm grumpy because I didn't X". "You Y too much". "On Saturday, I will Z all day". Where X=Y=Z inevitably “masturbate”, what else would you do all day! And how on earth does "He drank a pint of butter" illustrate "butter"? Do you think that's a good example? How about "My hard-on wants very[sic] to be your friend"? Garbage dressed as humour and wrapped in templates is still garbage, and should be reverted. – Jberkel 01:24, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Actually, only vandalism should be reverted. For worthless edits we have the undo button.
Unless I'm mistaken, fondu means melted, so he drank a pint of melted butter. When you say illustrate it makes it sound like you want example sentences to essentially be definitions taken from our foreign language projects. "Butter is a dairy product etc" isn't what I would call a usage example. I personally would be more likely to remember a sentence about someone drinking a pint of melted butter than one about butter being a dairy product made by doing whatever it is that makes butter butter.
In that context, your repeated mention of context makes me curious. MB added his examples to entries related to masturbation. He didn't add "I'm grumpy because I didn't masturbate" to the entry for grumpy. They're in contextually appropriate entries. So I'm curious what context is missing from his examples that, if included, would elevate them from garbage to passable in your estimation? For example, would "I'm going to masturbate all day" be better if it was "I have the day off from work, so I'm going to masturbate all day?" It's not clear what exactly you mean by context. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 00:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
WT:USEX has some guidelines, and suggests "to place the term in a context in which it is likely to appear". Usage example are not about inventing ridiculous sentences so that you can remember them better (as you suggest), they should show how the term is typically used, with common collocations and grammatical features (gender etc). As I said, you can do many things all day, and you can be grumpy for many reasons, so these are not good example sentences. In Special:Diff/54472274/62642771, you've added "il se masturbe depuis 2 heures". Same thing, no context. It's not even clear that masturbation is related to sex after reading these sentences. But maybe he's doing mental masturbation. Or some strange form of yoga. – Jberkel 01:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)