User talk:Ohgollychan

Old Slavic languages

Hi, do you actually know what you are doing? Because it doesn't look like it. You keep adding pronunciation templates without stress (even though ь, ъ are full vowels!!), add hyphenation templates without separating syllables, add pronunciation and etymology to late alternative spellings... The templates won't magically work without any additional information, you need to know what you want it to print before expecting it to print what you want. Otherwise, you'll just wind up with a mess, like now. Thadh (talk) 13:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't recall adding pronunciation templates without stress. If I had, it's probably a mistake, please revise it (and yes, I am aware that ь, ъ were full vowels, not sure what you mean). I had accidentally added a hyphenation template and then forgot to separate syllables, but I believe I revised the mistake right away. I'm not trying to add etymology to late alternative spellings, it's just that I don't want to remove them if they were already there. As for pronunciation, I wasn't sure if you should include the pronunciations in late spelling forms, so I guess I wasn't really consistent. Sorry about that. Ohgollychan (talk) 13:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

No problem, it was just a lot at once. You shouldn't add pronunciation and hyphenation to non-lemma forms, and you should also not include stress in hyphenation templates. The no stress in IPA templates I was referring to was for instance diff; I believe you also used to contribute on an IP account, and there were similar mistakes then; Anyway, it seems in your most recent entries you do add stress, which is good.

Another thing to keep in mind is that pronunciation templates should be preceded by an asterisk (*) at the beginning of a line. For the IPA template it doesn't make a lot of difference, as it auto-generates it anyway, but for the hyphenation template that is important.

I hope I haven't scared you off with my previous message, I am glad to see another OES editor. Also, so you have some useful links:

Welcome

Hello, welcome to Wiktionary, and thank you for your contributions so far.

If you are unfamiliar with wiki-editing, take a look at Help:How to edit a page. It is a concise list of technical guidelines to the wiki format we use here: how to, for example, make text boldfaced or create hyperlinks. Feel free to practice in the sandbox. If you would like a slower introduction we have a short tutorial.

These links may help you familiarize yourself with Wiktionary:

• Entry layout (EL) is a detailed policy on Wiktionary's page formatting; all entries must conform to it. The easiest way to start off is to copy the contents of an existing same-language entry, and then adapt it to fit the entry you are creating.
• Check out Language considerations to find out more about how to edit for a particular language.
• Our Criteria for Inclusion (CFI) defines exactly which words can be added to Wiktionary; the most important part is that Wiktionary only accepts words that have been in somewhat widespread use over the course of at least a year, and citations that demonstrate usage can be asked for when there is doubt.
• If you already have some experience with editing our sister project Wikipedia, then you may find our guide for Wikipedia users useful.
• If you have any questions, bring them to Wiktionary:Information desk or ask me on my talk page.
• Whenever commenting on any discussion page, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) which automatically produces your username and timestamp.
• You are encouraged to add a BabelBox to your userpage to indicate your self-assessed knowledge of languages.

Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Thadh (talk) 13:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Yers

Something to keep in mind: -и- and -ꙑ- before a /j/ are automatically converted to tense yers, see WT:AORV. Also, word-initial front yer prints a /j-/, just like any front vowel, and in Russian (unlike Ruthenian languages) word initial jC- was converted to иC- (not sure whether to call that analogy or simple cluster resolution). Similarly, и (i) was analogically converted to a vowel because otherwise you'd be left with only the consonant [j].

Usually Proto-Slavic is a better key to where yers should be than the descendants. Thadh (talk) 11:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Once again, stop substituting these! Thadh (talk) 13:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)