User talk:ThomasWasHere

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Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

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misspellings[edit]

Just mark them with {{delete}}, not {{rfd}}, and make sure nothing links to them before that (by clicking on "What links here") --Ivan Štambuk 19:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

"cs-noun form" vs "cs-noun-form"[edit]

Hi, I think {{cs-noun form}} is a better name than {{cs-noun-form}}, per similarity with {{en-proper noun}}. So I propose you remove the request for deletion from {{cs-noun form}}. There also already exists {{cs-verb form}}. --Daniel Polansky 11:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. Sorry for messing the Czech template pages, I am learning how it works. Regards. ThomasWasHere 11:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
No problem :). --Daniel Polansky 11:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Conjugation of spát[edit]

Hi, in the conjugation of spát, you have swapped past and future forms. --Daniel Polansky 13:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have corrected it. I always want to put the past before the future : ). ThomasWasHere 22:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Categorization of templates[edit]

Please do not add the templates to those categories. The Category:Czech proverbs is only for Czech proverbs, not for templates or other non-proverb content. --EncycloPetey 21:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

The purpose is to help a user to easily find the templates related to a category. As a newbie it would have help me to find a link in this category. May I, instead of adding an entry in the category, put the link in the body of the category page ? Thanks. ThomasWasHere 22:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
There are usually multiple templates related to a category, including the inflection template, declension templates, context templates, etc. A better approach would be to help set up Wiktionary:About Czech and find ways to direct newbies there. We have such pages for most major languages, and are always looking for ways to imrove them or make them more visible. It is these pages that detail the specific templates and such for individual languages. --EncycloPetey 22:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
We have already a quite complete Wiktionary:About Czech page but the only link is in the Help:Index/Languages page and also some users. I have added one in Category:Czech templates but it doesn't seem enough for a so important page. ThomasWasHere 22:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
We have the same problem with all the pages. They're great and useful resources, but they're not widely advertised unless someone happenes to notice you have an interest and drops a link on your page. Also, the Czech page is hardly "complete". See for example Wiktionary:About Latin and Wiktionary:About Hungarian for some pages that have different content and information that the Czech page lacks (not that those pages are complete either). --EncycloPetey 23:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikification at korun[edit]

Hi, at korun, you have entered:

===Noun===
{{cs-noun form}}

# {{form of|[[genitive|Genitive]] [[plural]]|koruna|lang=Czech}}

But from looking around in Wiktionary, it seems more usual not to wikify everything, like

===Noun===
{{cs-noun form}}

# {{form of|Genitive plural|koruna|lang=Czech}}

Isn't it? --Daniel Polansky 13:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

It seems to me nice before to put links on the case/number/etc/tense but it overloads the entry so yes you are right, better not to put links it's anyway grammatical words the user has to know to use the dictionary. I change the entry and the guide. ThomasWasHere 14:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

carte de visite[edit]

What do you mean by "(old)? Do you mean {{archaic}} or {{obsolete}}? Also, we always put context tags like these in front of the definition instead of after. --EncycloPetey 15:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

You're right, I have put a gloss and it should be a context. I have correct it. I am dreaming of some auto-completion when you begin to write a template with a little help balloon like in the programming environments = ). ThomasWasHere 15:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

past participle templates[edit]

Hi TWH, this is a friendly notice to inform of the templates {{past participle of}}, {{feminine past participle of}}, {{plural past participle of}}, {{feminine plural past participle of}}. Keene 12:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:cs-conj-kup-ovat and Template:cs-conj-ovat[edit]

Hi. Do we need both of these Czech verb conjugation templates? AFAIK, all -ovat verbs are conjugated identically. Also, I have checked carefully for mistakes, but please tell me if you find any mistakes. --Ro-manB 18:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Roman. The first template is one I have added and was forming a coherent group of template with a prefix and a suffix because in some case the suffix is not enough to differentiate the conjugation. The second template was already there so I let it, I suppose you can do a redirection, best to ask the author: Dan Polansky. I am very happy to see somebody working on Czech declension but try not to replace prefix+suffix conjugation templates with template taking only in account the suffix. In most of the cases it will not work. If you need any help do not hesitate. --Thomas was here  21:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
After some thoughts, I don't think it's a good idea to name the conjugation templates with number like cs-conj-at, cs-conj-at2, etc. It doesn't help to find the correct template. Why replacing templates like cs-conj-kup-ovat with cs-conj-ovat? Why not just improving what is already done? ----Thomas was here  14:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Template talk:cs-conj[edit]

You mentioned at Template talk:cs-conj "I will do some search for algorithm and mail what I found". Please can you email me this algorithm which you found. --Romanb 17:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Roman, nice to see a Czech speaker working on wiktionary : ). For what I remember of my search the results were that there is no simple algorithm due to the number of exceptions so it is more like few rules and a long list of exceptions : /. I have found some good tools from two universities: UFAL, Charles University, Prague and NLPL, Masaryk University, Brno. I think you can extract rules from their morphological dictionnaries and also from rule-based grammatical taggers if they have. Maybe better to ask them directly as they seem to be the leaders in the natural language processing of Czech. And my reference for Czech on Internet is metatrans.fi.muni.cz which gives you in one interface the main dictionaries, morphology and thesaurus. ----Thomas was here  14:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

doloů[edit]

Generally, alt spellings should be linked, and should follow the same capitalization rules as normal entries. I've fixed doloů, please feel free to correct if I've screwed it up somehow. Many thanks. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 07:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but there's no such word in Czech, ie neither *doloů nor *dolou. What you mean is dolů, and the form dolu is a dialectal form, only used in writing for representing the dialectal use. I tagged doloů for imminent deletion.
Correct. I haven't been careful enough. My apologies. --Thomas was here  20:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

no future in perfective verbs[edit]

i see you are quite active with conjugaison tables of czech verbs. adding czech verbs on the french wiktionary, i came across a small issue. i am using the equivalent of Template:cs-conj-tisk-nout but it doesn't work for perfective (say všimnout). with your knowledge of templates, what would be best, create a separate one or add an argument to suppress the future when perfective in the template ? --Diligent 06:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hum, there is already a parameter p that you can add when calling the template like this: {{cs-conj-tisk-nout|všim|p}}. By the way, if you have some ideas on how to improve these templates have a look at the Czech conjugation talk page and contribute : ). Sinon bon courage pour apprendre le tchèque, personnelement j'utilise la méthode assimil qui n'est pas trop mal. --Thomas was here  22:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

minout perfective[edit]

if minout is perfective, it shouldn't have a future tense, right? --Diligent 07:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes you're right, I have corrected the template in adding |p as parameter. Do not hesitate to correct these kind of errors after verifying in other sources like the German wikitionary. Thanks for noticing it. --Thomas was here  22:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Conditionals[edit]

Hey, first of all, I would like to thank you for all your contributions! Nevertheless, I noticed most of your conditionals include 'jsi' and I would like you to know it is only spoken and it is wrong. I corrected a few of those already but it seems it will take a lot of time to correct all of them. If you could help with correcting them, it would be fantastic. Regards.

Hi, I'm not responsible for this change. I'm not currently active. That seems to be a bot, so you need to find the owner and ask him. ----Thomas was here  08:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Now I see it was not you. I was correcting it at 2 A.M. so I was a bit tired. I apologize. AMDcze (talk) 10:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)