User talk:Xtv

Categorizing

All Catalan nouns should be in Category:Catalan nouns. Please do not move nouns out of this category. We do not categorize nouns by gender in any Iberian language. --EncycloPetey 07:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

If you would like to propose a change to community norms, then the WT:BP is the place to do so. What you propose runs counter to the current long-standing community consensus. For all languages, all nouns are categorized in a single master category, except for plurals. If you would like to change policy or make Catalan an exception to this uniform policy, you need to propose that change and get a community consensus. --EncycloPetey 08:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I did not request deletion of {{tl}}. I requested that {{ca-noun-fp}} be deleted. It does not fit the policies I described. We prefer a smaller number of flexible templates over many specialized ones. Again, if you believe Catalan should be treated diffeently than all other languages, please make that proposal in order to create consensus. --EncycloPetey 08:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but electrical problems in my building required that I log off and shut down during our conversation. The reason we have so many German and Spanish templates is that they were started independently (the way you are doing Catalan), and we now have hundreds to thousands of pages making use of the large number of templates. The consensus favoring a smaller number of templates in a language was developed when we saw how much work it is and would be to maintain so many varied templates. Languages where work has started since that time have gone to a reduced number of templates. So, for instance, Latin has only {{la-noun}} and {{la-noun-form}}, despite the fact that there are five declensions and three genders. Likewise we have {{ro-noun}} for all Romanian nouns, {{en-noun}} for all English nouns, and {{it-noun}} for all Italian nouns. (But note that because proper nouns have a different grammar, we list them under a different header and they usually have a separate template.)

So, while Spanish and German have multiple templates, that is not the ideal, and we may sometime unify those templates the way we did a few years ago for English. To give a specific on-going example: there are currently three separate templates used for Spanish verbs, but there is a project underway to unify them all under a single template {{es-verb}}. If the details can be worked out, then there will be just one template for all Spanish verbs. So the community recognizes there are problems with too many templates in some languages, and is trying to remedy the situation. --EncycloPetey 17:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Template ca-noun-mp

Hi there. The problem with this template is that you are trying to generate both the headword and a definition line in the same template. This is not allowed - the "#" sign HAS to be written in the plain text of the article, many of our automated systems rely on this. SemperBlotto 10:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)