Category talk:Portuguese augmentatives
Latest comment: 11 years ago by Chuck Entz
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Redundant to Category:Portuguese noun augmentative forms. Putting a "pos=noun" parameter into the {{augmentative of}} template in its 4 members was all that was needed to switch them to the other category.
The alternative to deletion would be to create {{poscatboiler/augmentatives}} to make {{poscatboiler}} happy, but these are all nouns, and all augmentatives- so why bother? Chuck Entz (talk) 06:42, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- Unless Category:Portuguese augmentatives were a parent to Category:Portuguese noun augmentative forms. If not, delete it. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- Is an augmentative really a form of a noun in the same way that a plural is a form? I think usually augmentatives and diminutives are nouns in their own right, and may (as in Dutch and German) have different inflection and gender from the base noun. So maybe Category:Portuguese augmentative nouns? —CodeCat 13:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- It is also so in Portuguese. In addition, adjectives also have augmentatives, so the RFDed category would be a mess if it contained entries. — Ungoliant (Falai) 13:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, so delete. But should the replacement drop 'forms' from the name? Should I bring this up in WT:RFM so that we can apply it consistently across languages? —CodeCat 14:02, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- The kept category gets its name from the poscatboiler subtemplate, so it would seem to apply across languages already (though I haven't checked to see what categories exist in other languages). I would think an rfm might be a good idea- for both the category and the poscatboiler subcategory. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- On second thought, the poscatboiler subcategory is dependent on the wording used by
{{augmentative of}}, so that needs to be considered at the same time. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:33, 19 November 2012 (UTC) - There are 18 transclusions for
{{augmentative of}}, and not all of them are categorizing- but I don't see any parameter explicitly responsible for the difference. Odd. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- On second thought, the poscatboiler subcategory is dependent on the wording used by
- The kept category gets its name from the poscatboiler subtemplate, so it would seem to apply across languages already (though I haven't checked to see what categories exist in other languages). I would think an rfm might be a good idea- for both the category and the poscatboiler subcategory. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, so delete. But should the replacement drop 'forms' from the name? Should I bring this up in WT:RFM so that we can apply it consistently across languages? —CodeCat 14:02, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- It is also so in Portuguese. In addition, adjectives also have augmentatives, so the RFDed category would be a mess if it contained entries. — Ungoliant (Falai) 13:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- Is an augmentative really a form of a noun in the same way that a plural is a form? I think usually augmentatives and diminutives are nouns in their own right, and may (as in Dutch and German) have different inflection and gender from the base noun. So maybe Category:Portuguese augmentative nouns? —CodeCat 13:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)