Talk:Полет
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Bulgarian: Paulette. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's correct. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Atitarev I wasn't asking whether it is correct, but whether it can be cited. I have almost no knowledge of Bulgarian, so I request your help in finding three cites for this entry. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was hoping you would drop the RFV, if someone confirms it's a correct term. I'm not that keen to keep translations of foreign names into other languages to start looking for citations. On the term itself, in Russian, at least, the name could be Russified a bit and turn into "Полетта" in literature (not necessarily) but if it's an official person, the transliteration would be normally closer to the original. If you know a famous person named Paulette or person from a famous book, you could search for a translation into languages, you added RFV for. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Atitarev It shouldn't be too hard to find the cites on Google Books and link them here if this really is correct. The issue is that we have users that claim something is "correct" even when it cannot be cited literally anywhere, and that's poor lexicography. The only way to deal with that is to go through the RFV process to demonstrate that a word actually passes CFI. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- I see your point but it IS hard to find citations for this particular term. Bulgarian Полет is mixed with the Russian полёт (poljót), normally spelled "полет" in a running Russian text and as I said, I am not that keen to keep this entry. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:10, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Atitarev It shouldn't be too hard to find the cites on Google Books and link them here if this really is correct. The issue is that we have users that claim something is "correct" even when it cannot be cited literally anywhere, and that's poor lexicography. The only way to deal with that is to go through the RFV process to demonstrate that a word actually passes CFI. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was hoping you would drop the RFV, if someone confirms it's a correct term. I'm not that keen to keep translations of foreign names into other languages to start looking for citations. On the term itself, in Russian, at least, the name could be Russified a bit and turn into "Полетта" in literature (not necessarily) but if it's an official person, the transliteration would be normally closer to the original. If you know a famous person named Paulette or person from a famous book, you could search for a translation into languages, you added RFV for. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Atitarev I wasn't asking whether it is correct, but whether it can be cited. I have almost no knowledge of Bulgarian, so I request your help in finding three cites for this entry. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Bogorm, would you be able & willing to help with this? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- I cannot remember on the spot any work from Bulgarian literature where this name appears. If there is a famous work from Europæan literature with an eponymous personage I could search for a Bulgarian translation in my library (or other available source, if there is a translation) and quote the sentence. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 17:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Bogorm You don't need to scour your library, you can simply go to google books:"Полет" and copy-paste three that are in Bulgarian. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:51, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, all of them are instances of the noun полет (and not the female proper noun Полет) and searches in google-books are case-insensitive. That is why I resorted to the aforementioned proposal. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 18:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Bogorm You don't need to scour your library, you can simply go to google books:"Полет" and copy-paste three that are in Bulgarian. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:51, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- I cannot remember on the spot any work from Bulgarian literature where this name appears. If there is a famous work from Europæan literature with an eponymous personage I could search for a Bulgarian translation in my library (or other available source, if there is a translation) and quote the sentence. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 17:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- My favorite tool for this is Google advanced search, which makes it possible to limit searches to a particular language. Here is Google books search in Bulgarian for Полет, but it seems to mostly find полет. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- It appears to be case-insensitive as well, as far as I can infer from your last sentence. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 18:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Looking on Wikipedia, I found w:bg:Полет Годар and w:bg:Полет Буржоа. A Google books search looks promising. @Bogorm Could you please confirm that they are actually in Bulgarian? —Internoob 17:13, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, your search is good. They are definitely in Bulgarian (thanks to your params) and various hits are the woman's name ("Paulette"), not the common noun поле́т (polét). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 14:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- RFV-passed, then. - -sche (discuss) 07:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)