Talk:as a result

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RFD discussion: February–March 2021[edit]

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SOP. Even if kept, the entry is in a terrible state. The part of speech is wrong; the quotation does not match the given definition; most of the translations translate the phrase "as a result of". We should move the translations to a new translation hub entry at as a result of. 2001:8000:1588:B800:C5D2:999A:B577:3569 01:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

The sole existing example, "England will not be catapulted among the favourites for Euro 2012 as a result of this win", is clearly not that of a conjunction, and, as you say, does not match the definition. I've replaced that with one that is more conjunction-like. Here they call "as a result" a "conjunctive adverbial phrase"; here they call it a conjunction. Suspect there are a number of similar "as a ~" phrases: as a consequence, as a rule, as a corollary etc., but leaning keep for "as a result" as idiomatic enough. Mihia (talk) 18:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
But the three synonyms given in the definition line are all defined as adverbs... 2001:8000:1588:B800:253B:D35A:D8C4:94CF 22:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, sorry, you're right, they are not "pure" conjunctions (and neither is "as a result"). These are often called "conjunctive adverbs". Do we have a PoS category "conjunctive adverb"? If not, perhaps the PoS should be changed to "adverb", with a "conjunctive" label, if that's how we treat words such as "thus" and "therefore". Mihia (talk) 22:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I've made that change. Mihia (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Delete. There are many common phrases of the form “as a ...”. While this one is the most common among them, I see no argument why the combination is less transparent than any of the others. It may even be the one whose meaning is the most easily derived from the meanings of its components.  --Lambiam 07:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Keep. Most common form and set phrase. "As an effect," "as a product," etc. would seem unnatural. Imetsia (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Keep, thanks Mihia for adding a better label. --Robbie SWE (talk) 19:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply