Talk:friend

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I don't know much about the Turkish language, but shouldn't the translation in Turkish read arkadaş instead of arkada,s? D.D. 18:48 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

Of course it should be, but I can't type that when I'm not sitting behind my trusted Linux workstation... SorryPolyglot 22:15 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


I deleted the Indonesian word "sobat" and added "kawan" - "sobat" does mean "friend", too, but it is not very common, while "kawan" is frequently used. Or should all possible translations be included? Then we should put "sobat" back on the list. 80.129.146.16 20:14, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

We could put it in and add a comment that it is very uncommon. The more complete, the better. But it is certainly appreciated that you pointed this out. I'll put it back in, with a comment. Polyglot 21:56, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


English does not have these two senses of the word friend! If other languages do then that's for notes or for the entry for those languages. — Hippietrail 00:19, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)


To a native francophone, this definition makes it seem like a lover or spouse cannot be a friend, but maybe it's just me. I'd like to get some more opinions before i change anything.


A 2005 usage note from the US West: something I've noticed only in recent years (I've listened to American English for over 50 of them) is the usage of "my friend" by people (usually under 30) to refer to someone they know IN PLACE OF something more specific, like "my boyfriend" or "my girlfriend". An interesting development.


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friend

In the romantic-friendship sense. (The romantic friendship article is cited, but I don't think that friend alone can really mean that.) —RuakhTALK 17:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's almost identical to the first definition. Redundant.--Dmol 17:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Since friend apparently also means boy/girlfriend, there's no evidence that "friend" has any implication on sexual relation. Removed. DAVilla 20:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Examples could really help a case like this. Was the contributor thinking of "just a friend" or "just friends" perhaps? Does that merit inlusion separately? DAVilla 20:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

'Friend' meaning 'gun'[edit]

Hi,

I think the definition 'gun' should be added. It's used in all kinds of popular culture, such as the movies Get Shorty and Heist. - Richardcavell 23:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Could you give a few example quotations from those films? Equinox 23:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
It looks like a simple metaphor to me. SemperBlotto 07:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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Sense 4: "A person with whom one is vaguely or indirectly acquainted. a friend of a friend" But that person is a direct friend of the first friend. So I think this is just sense 1 and should be removed. Equinox 03:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Is this a case of semantic "bleaching"? The use of "friend" to apply to someone to whom one is attempting to ingratiate oneself would lead to it gradually referring more to mere acquaintances who were not overt enemies (and to opponents or even enemies).
There are many cases where there is no strong assertion of friendship in "a friend of a friend", especially in the first "friend". There is also at least the suggestion that the friendship chain could be longer for all the speaker knows (sometimes "a friend of a friend of a friend"). Does friend of a friend therefor warrant an entry? DCDuring TALK 12:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The way the two senses are worded, they're not the same. You'd have to combine them into a more general sense. Good luck, chaps! Mglovesfun (talk) 13:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


Slavic Prijatel & Friend. Freund/Friend derived from the Satem word "Priyat" which means "Nice, favorable, comfort". There are many "germanic" (Gothic) words which indirectly derived from Slavic or Baltic or Persian and are not even mentioned. The Linguistic root PRYT transmuted into "Pf" or F, Ling. root FRNT / FRND, in Gothic ("germanic" languages) as "Freund, Friend,..."