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As defined: filename extensions are not specifically English and in fact are not words in any human language. Equinox ◑ 15:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Should it be Translingual then? It is used on Commons images, e.g. on this one at cutting I took. DonnanZ (talk) 16:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's not a word in a human language. Every file type has one (vbs = Visual Basic script, xls = Excel spreadsheet, etc.): they are computer codes. Equinox ◑ 19:49, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Things which are not human language words have been known to become human language words; various numbers (phone numbers, police codes), equations, formulas, dates, product names, etc. have all had members enter English, no reason to suppose that filetypes cannot do the same. If you search for "any old jpg" you can see people using it to refer to an image of the type, no idea if it has been adopted to a CFI compliant degree, but I can't rule it out by virtue of its origin. - TheDaveRoss 20:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- If kept, should we rename it (them) to include the dot? SemperBlotto (talk) 04:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- If there are sources using the term without the dot, I would consider that an alternative spelling. bd2412 T 01:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- There are sources without the dot:
- "Note that even if the quality value of 1000 is used for saving jpg file ..."[1]
- "But you can also use your own jpg file."[2]
- "The first block reads a jpg file format image called webcampix."[3]
- "Murphy had also drawn a map of the camp, which he sent as a jpg file."
- "The RGB can be used not only for visualization but it may also be saved as a new image in a jpg file ..."
- However, "JPG file" seems much more common than "jpg file". Thus, jpg could be changed to alternative capitalization of JPG. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- There are sources without the dot:
- If there are sources using the term without the dot, I would consider that an alternative spelling. bd2412 T 01:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep It seems to be used often attributively in the collocation jpg file (also JPG file), but also otherwise as a noun, as in "a flattened, smaller image (like a jpg)" and "She sent me a jpg", "how to resize a jpg". I note also that .jpg is used similarly. DCDuring (talk) 00:31, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- I have redefined it as a noun, defined as "A file of JPEG file format; i.e., a digital picture." without removing the RfD tag. DCDuring (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: I don't see why file extensions shouldn't be kept any less than any other abbreviation. Regardless of whether or not it's a word, it still has a meaning Purplebackpack89 21:53, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Our definition of dictionary reads thus: "A reference work with a list of words from one or more languages" (emphasis mine). You can't sweep the question of whether or not it's a word under the carpet like that; this is central to the debate we're having here. Its having a meaning is not enough. Canonicalization (talk) 22:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that's not what the CFI (the rules for this page) say. They say, "A term need not be limited to a single word in the usual sense. Any of these are also acceptable...Abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms". I believe this is one such abbreviation, acronym or initialism. Purplebackpack89 21:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Our definition of dictionary reads thus: "A reference work with a list of words from one or more languages" (emphasis mine). You can't sweep the question of whether or not it's a word under the carpet like that; this is central to the debate we're having here. Its having a meaning is not enough. Canonicalization (talk) 22:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as it's certainly used as a noun: "a jpg", a sort of alternative form of JPEG. (Sort of because it seems to be derived through the filename extension, not directly as a shortening of JPEG.) But I don't at the moment support English entries for all filename extensions, and I'm not even sure if every extension that is be put in the construction "a(n) <extension> file" should have an English entry (partly because I consider that a compound, but that's a separate debate). — Eru·tuon 21:40, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Do the keepers think that we should keep any "attestable" filename extension? (I assume this would mean any that is published in a book. I am a programmer and have invented three-letter file extensions for my own applications since the 1990s.) Idiots. Equinox ◑ 05:07, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Kept - TheDaveRoss 19:05, 29 March 2020 (UTC)