Talk:working class

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Hmm . . . the American equivalent, "blue collar", is variously used pejoratively, with pride or simply descriptively. Is the designation "working class" necessarily pejorative? I would think that "working class", at the end of the day, simply means "working class." Certainly we should note that it is used pejoratively, and we might want to have more than one sense, starting with the most literal, but the definition as given seems to be trying too hard and, unless the term really is used exclusiely as a pejorative, inaccurate.

Could British speakers please comment on this usage? Even if it's accurate, the definition could stand tightening. -dmh 18:14, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC) (dmh)

I agree, "working class" is generally a positive thing at least from my US prospective. If you google it, it'll turn up a bunch of academic and socialist stuff as the first hits.
I wouldn't call 'blue collar' an American equivalent, given that we use both words and blue collars are the well-payed industrial subset of the working class. It belongs as a synomyn certainly, synomyns aren't supposed to be exact. --Eean 08:37, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
"Equivalent" was too strong. Maybe "analog"? The issue is also a bit clouded because "working class" in the US doesn't carry quite the same connotations as it does in the UK. If Toby Keith put out something called "Working Class Hero" it wouldn't be coming from the same angle as John Lennon's.
I've never been quite comfortable with synonyms. I tend to just list possible synonyms under "See Also". The reader can then chase the links and decide how similar the words are in which senses. To me, "synonym" implies that the terms can be used interchangeably with the same connotations, and this practically never happens. But then, why talk about synonyms at all? Certainly many pairs of words are interchangeable in some but not all senses. They could be listed as synonyms, but I'm always a little leery of that, since the naive reader won't know when they can and can't be interchanged. -dmh 14:10, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)