Thesaurus talk:idiot
Latest comment: 8 years ago by Metaknowledge in topic RFM discussion: April 2013–June 2015
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I realize that (deprecated template usage) idiot and (deprecated template usage) fool can carry different shades of meaning (idiot implies low intelligence, whereas fool implies poor judgment, which doesn't necessarily preclude intelligence), but given the amount of overlap between Wikisaurus:idiot and Wikisaurus:fool, I'm wondering if a merge of the two pages might be warranted. Astral (talk) 00:51, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well I dunno, while Wikisaurus probably doesn't have as much content as a real thesaurus at all, y'know thesauruses do tend to have entries for both say, word X and word Y, where word Y is a listed synonym for word word X. User: PalkiaX50 talk to meh 02:17, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with such a merger. I think we have an opportunity here to create a better thesaurus, one that provides a more informative communication of nuance. Just about every set of synonyms has subtle shades of meaning, formality, and so forth, that can best be compared on a single thesaurus page. bd2412 T 19:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The template
{{ws}}, used to add words to Wikisaurus pages, allows for the inclusion of a definition that appears upon mouse-over. I think this feature is sufficient to communicate subtle nuances of meaning. But the placement of many terms on Wikisaurus:idiot and Wikisaurus:fool strikes me as somewhat arbitrary. I mean, what makes (deprecated template usage) dimwit a synonym of idiot, but not of fool? A single, consolidated Wikisaurus page would be easier to manage, and would make it easier for readers to find synonyms, as right now some dictionary entries link to Wikisaurus:fool while others link to Wikisaurus:idiot. Astral (talk) 22:33, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The template
- I agree with such a merger. I think we have an opportunity here to create a better thesaurus, one that provides a more informative communication of nuance. Just about every set of synonyms has subtle shades of meaning, formality, and so forth, that can best be compared on a single thesaurus page. bd2412 T 19:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose; I think a meaningful distinction can be maintained. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:13, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose: "fool" is not used in the context of mental disorders and "idiot" is not used in the context of court jesters. Purplebackpack89 17:40, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- No clear consensus to merge. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:10, 10 June 2015 (UTC)