User talk:AKA MBG

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hieroglyph[edit]

Sorry, I misread the link you were putting in. I have adjusted it now to link using the {{t}} template. To use this template to link to the Russian Wiktionary, use the parameters like this:

{{t|ru|иероглиф|m}} (ieroglif)

The t calls the templae; the ru is the ISO code ofr Russian; then the word; then the gender. --EncycloPetey 06:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I really need in this template. --AKA MBG 13:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

keyboard shortcut[edit]

IMO, the overuse of {t} template gives an awful (if not to say 'ugly') view: [1]. Besides, it is easily translated as шорткат. Dart evader 21:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Russian transliteration[edit]

Hello. Here we are using Wiktionary:Russian transliteration scheme for transliteration. Please use that instead of phonetic transcriptions. Thank you. --Vahagn Petrosyan 16:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Опс! "tr= specifies the transliteration" in t+... А я думал - произношение. Ступил. Спасибо за подсказку.
Thanks. -- AKA MBG 04:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

WT:APR[edit]

Thanks for helping out with recordings. I'll create Category:Requests for audio pronunciation (Russian) --The New Mikemoral ♪♫WT:APR 01:20, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 20:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

учитель[edit]

Hi. Could you record учитель and upload the new version to Commons, please? Our current recording of учитель is somewhat ambiguous: something between у́читель and учи́тель. --Vahagn Petrosyan 11:18, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. See versions:
Thank you. I would have recorded myself, but I'm afraid I might have a very slight accent :) --Vahagn Petrosyan 08:37, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
You are welcome :) -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 11:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


Thanks a lot for your phonetic transcriptions[edit]

(as in "jinx") , they are vey useful to the low-brow people I belong to. What's more frustrating than looking at a written word without understanding it ? Wish Vahagn P.'d do the same as you... T.y. Arapaima 07:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I hear a sarcasm in your voice... But I am afraid that I didn't understand you. Should I descrease my level of English in Babylon box? :)
1) The translation box (template:t) does not contain any transcription, but it contains a transliteration. There is a big difference: transliteration is a stupid, simple task, it could be done by bot, I suppose. Isn't it so?
2) The accent of the translation, the transliteration of the translation, the gender of the translation... they crowd, overload the translation section... This information should be presented only in the entry of the translation. I like the principle of OOP: w:en:Information hiding and w:en:Encapsulation (object-oriented programming).

-- Andrew Krizhanovsky 10:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


I was only telling you I was genuinely glad to be able to know how a word written in an alphabet I don't understand sounds, that's all. Did I look sarcastic again ? This has provided me so many slaps in the face from parents, teachers etc, & so I'm not yet free of the curse...Sorry I upset you . T.y. Arapaima 09:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
And thanks also for mending up my 1st of May spanish "pavé de l'ours" on WOD mayday, followed by "hit'n run" panic (but the mess did look terrible, didn't it ?). But again , what about transliteration ? I'd have loved to know how the russian word for "mayday" (among many others) is pronounced (& furthermore it may be useful in case of emergency ... without any sarcasm ) .T.y. Arapaima 08:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I prefer to add translations into Russian without transliteration. Sorry.
P.S. If you are interested to listen Russian voice, welcome:
. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 09:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Привет[edit]

Привет,

Спасибо за ваш вклад в Викисловарь. Пожалуйста постарайтесь добавлять транскрипцию к вашим переводам на русский, как на странице Wiktionary:Russian transliteration.

С уважением, Анатолий --Anatoli 13:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Привет, Анатолий. Если вы посмотрите сообщения выше (под заголовком "Russian transliteration"), то вы увидите просьбу Вагана добавлять траслитерацию, а не транскрипцию в переводы. А если вы гляните буквально мой предыдущий ответ, то вы узнаете мои аргументы, почему я считаю бесполезной тратой времени - добавление траслитерации в переводы.
Спасибо и вам за ваш вклад. "Вы убегаете, а я догоняю. А вместе - делаем общее дело" цитата из любимого к/ф "Берегись автомобиля". -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 09:14, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Спасибо за ответ. Жаль, что вы не согласны. Выше я прочитал о ваших предпочтениях, но ваши мотивы из ответа не понятны. Здесь так принято большинством постоянных участников и не только в русском языке (с некоторыми досадными исключениями, но их тоже исправляют), если кому-то лень или забывают, просто приходится исправлять и добавлять. Учтите, что не все переводы имеют статью с произношением, тем более звукозаписью и не все владеют кириллицей, Викисловарь помогает всем. Ещё одна мотивация для добавления транслитерации - переводы с ней помогают быстрее освоить кириллицу для тех, кто учит русский в режиме онлайн.

Всего доброго. Анатолий --Anatoli 10:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

sans[edit]

Please do not mislabel English entries. The word sans is netiher obsolete nor limited to poetic works. --EncycloPetey 06:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I have got this information from my English-Russian dictionary. Thank you for the corrections. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 08:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Привет, Citations, Quotations[edit]

Добро пожаловать. Мы с вами знакомы - если вы вспоминаете, я вносил однажды кое-какой вклад в русский Викисловарь. Ваша статья синекура безукоризненна, хотелось бы только обратить внимание на возможность группировать цитаты в отдельном пространстве имен, иными словами, если вы намерены вставить еще несколько цитат, вы можете это сделать на отдельной странице Citations:синекура во избежание переполненности статьи цитатами (обычно до трех). В этой категории можете увидеть несколько примеров. Между прочим, князь Владимир Петрович Мещерский великолепный выбор, я еле надеялся встретить здесь еще одного участника, который интересуется его трудами. В вышеуказанной категории уже находятся 5-6 цитат этого автора, мною приведенных. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 07:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Приветствую! Конечно, я вас помню. Спасибо за ссылки, если будет больше трёх цитат, то буду использовать [[Citations:]].
Выбор цитат я делаю с помощью Национального корпуса русского языка. Стараюсь не отдавать предпочтение конкретному автору (это будет необъективно), а выбираю цитаты, наиболее полно характеризующие употребление слова. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 07:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Если можно, ещё несколько замечаний:
  • согласно Wiktionary:ELE#Variations for languages other than English, неанглийские слова должны переводиться, а не определяться как в толковом словаре. Т.е. синекура -> sinecure;
  • "книжное" по-английски {{literary}};
  • пустые header-ы, как References, оставлять не надо. Это практика русского Викисловаря у нас не принята.
Всё. Happy edits :) --Vahagn Petrosyan 08:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Спасибо большое за подсказки. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 09:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hypernymy[edit]

This is not an allowed header. The correct header form is "Hypernyms". Hypernymy is an abstract state of existence; Hypernyms are words that exist in that state. Generally, this section is added when it is useful. If it merely repeats words from the definition, then it is not useful. --EncycloPetey 16:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hypernyms... Ok. Thanks for the correction.
"Generally, this section is added when it is useful."
You are totally wrong. This section should be added always when it possible. Because (1) one of the goals of the Wiktionary (from my programmer's point of view) is to be the source for the machine-readable dictionary, which will be used in Natural language processing (NLP). (2) Wiktionary is a thesaurus also, but the utility of a thesaurus correlates with the number of semantic relations, so the presence of relations is always useful.
"If it merely repeats words from the definition, then it is not useful."
It's not merely repeats words, it repeats main words, i.e. hypernyms. And again, the computer (NLP software) don't know which words in the definition are main. And there are a lot of algorithms and programs, which try to guess and extract these main words from the definition... And these programs relies upon the famous Wordnet thesaurus, authors of Wordnet are not so greedy in specifying hypernyms :)
P.S. Sorry, but I am afraid that you don't understand an idea of thesaurus, or your idea is very different from mine. But, You can always put to the vote that "the (trivial) Hypernyms should not be used in the Wiktionary".
P.P.S. At the end of this week, I will publish online my research paper, where one of sections is titled "Why the English Wiktionary is beaten by the Russian Wiktionary by a number of semantic relations?". It is related to our talk... If you are interested, I can send it to you now to look at it. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 06:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The paper is available online: http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.5040 -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
"You are totally wrong. This section should be added always when it possible" That is a very unusual, and completely unsupported view. Please note that "Hypernyms" is not even listed as an official header in WT:ELE. It is "allowable" only. Your tone of confidence in this matter is undermined by the many formatting mistakes you are making. --EncycloPetey 04:07, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
You are not very correct, since WT:ELE contains only "Synonyms". WT:ELE says that "More detailed information can be found on Wiktionary:Semantic relations", which of course contains "Hypernyms".
P.S. This is only my point of view. And I am trying to correct my formatting mistakes with your help also. :)
P.P.S. In really my point of view is not very important, but I want to know all the details of formatting (and any (common) deviation in formatting) very much, because my aim is to create the parser wiwordik, which can extract correctly as much as possible information from the English Wiktionary. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 10:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Images[edit]

Also, when you add images, please add them in the correct place (under the language header, not subheaders) and please do not use definition numbers to identify any items in any section. Definitions often change numbers, and so should not be used to relate items from different sections. --EncycloPetey 04:07, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

1. The question of the image location is not trivial. Since WT:ELE says nothing about it, but Wiktionary:Images#Placement talks that "Images should usually be placed alongside the definition that it illustrates."
I think it will be fine, if you will add an information about placement of an image to the Wiktionary:Images#Placement.
But another question arises. Where the image should be placed, if the entry contains several homonyms below the language header, e.g. "Noun" and "Verb"? I think that in this case the image should be placed under the Part Of Speech header. Do you agree?
2. This is not my idea "to add numbers to the figures", since I saw several entries in the Wiktioinary with such image titles. In really it's very convinient for the foreign readers, believe me. Yes, I understand that it requires the additional work of synchronization of the number in the image title and the number of the definition. But it's not too difficult to change the number. Even I can make it without an error :)
If you are firmly convinced about the image numbering, then add please you decision into the Wiktionary:Images also, please. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky 10:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Personal questions[edit]

Hi,

do you mind if I were to ask you a few personal questions? Feel free to not answer them, but I ask them because I wish to know something about 'memory' in Russia or with Russians in general. I ask these questions to several native Russian speakers, so forgive me if you encounter these questions on different talkpages. So here are the questions:

  • When were you born?
  • Were you 16 or older in the 1980s?
  • Were you born in Russia/Soviet Union? Where?
  • How do you remember the Soviet-Afghan war/Afghan war?
  • How do you remember the Soviet repression, such as the Gulag or the prison camp system?
  • How do you remember the public discussion in the 1980s/1990s about the repression and the prison camp system?
  • How do you feel about the victims of the Afghan war and the victims of the repression?

Answer in anyway you like (which includes not answering as well of course), thank you very much.

Kind regards,

User:Mallerd (Zeg et es meisje) 12:29, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Dicts[edit]

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