Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/h₁ésh₂r̥

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Italic *sangʷens < *h₁sh₂én+Lua error in Module:links at line 180: The specified language Proto-Indo-European is unattested, while the given word is not marked with '*' to indicate that it is reconstructed.+Lua error in Module:links at line 180: The specified language Proto-Indo-European is unattested, while the given word is not marked with '*' to indicate that it is reconstructed., possibly meaning something like "pouring" or "flowing blood"? Dghmonwiskos (talk) 22:07, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dghmonwiskos it does makes more sense than the etymon given in the entry, both semantically and phonologically. --Tom 144 (𒄩𒇻𒅗𒀸) 00:26, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Tom 144, Dghmonwiskos: If I recall, "blood" + "living" is also seen in another PIE compound word for internal human blood, so semantically, *gʷeyh₃- has merit, but *ǵʰew- would seem to fit better morphologically. --Victar (talk) 19:42, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Proto-Balto-Slavic *asinga requires *-g(ʷ)-, and actually, according to Eichner's Law, *ē was not subject to coloring, so Proto-Indo-European *h₁sh₂n̥-gʷh₃-ḗn > Proto-Italic *sangʷen might check out. --Victar (talk) 02:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Though Eichner's Law has been called into question, given that most of it's basis is Hittite's sequences "eḫ" and "ḫe" as in meḫur "time". I think by then, people didn't know yet that PIE diphthongs such as *ey, *oy and (h₂)ay, also yielded "e" in Hittite, so their only explanation was that PIE ē wasn't coloured. In case you want some more info, Kloekhorst argues against it here, and in his etymological dictionary too. --Tom 144 (𒄩𒇻𒅗𒀸) 02:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the more Kloekhorst I read, the less I believe. —*i̯óh₁n̥C[5] 03:40, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, Eichner's Law certainly isn't uniformly agreed upon, and I don't know how or if it functioned in Hittite, but quite a few academics, like Kümmel, Rix, Adams, still support it. --Victar (talk) 18:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]