Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/onansi

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Arisaka's law

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Is this reconstruction valid? I see the Okinawan form as deriving from a borrowing from Japanese, given the lack of other Ryukyuan cognates. Kwékwlos (talk) 23:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Kwékwlos: I am curious about the decision to reconstruct this as *ənansi, for a couple reasons.
  • Arisaka's Law states that we should never see ⟨o₂⟩ in the same morpheme as ⟨o₁⟩, ⟨a⟩, or ⟨u⟩.
  • So far as I'm aware, man'yōgana doesn't distinguish between vowel-only ⟨o₁⟩ and ⟨o₂⟩.
Consequently, I see good reason not to reconstruct initial ə-, and reason to reconstruct initial o- instead.
Separately, the KDJ entry here at Kotobank notes that this was also realized as onasi -- but then again I can only find onazi in ONCOJ.
There is also a separate form oyazi. The notes in the oyazi entry in the KDJ (linked above) suggest that oyazi may have been from (oya, parent) + (ji, adjective-forming suffix, "having the qualities of"), while onazi was possibly from (ono, self) + (ji). This is interesting, and the semantics make some sense. This idea could merit further exploration. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 00:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply