Talk:ф'стак

RFC discussion: August 2016–March 2017

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Macedonian entries with apostrophes

'рж, 'рт, ’рбет, ’рбетник

’рѓа, ’рка, В’лтава, к’смет, ’рѓав

’рчи, ’рскавица, ’ржи, г’з, ’ржан

’рѓосува, ’рѓоса, ’ршум

In most languages, the use of curly vs straight apostrophes imparts no semantic information, so we put entries at the easier-to-type straight-apostrophe forms (that's that, c'est ça). I strongly suspect the situation in Macedonian is the same, and yet (thank-you to Wikitiki for noticing this) Macedonian entries use not only straight apostrophes (ф'стак) but also two different curly apostrophes (‘рж, ’рт). Can the latter two be moved to 'рж and 'рт, or is there a difference between them? (The curly forms can stay as redirects, IMO.) Pinging recently-active Macedonian speakers @Martin123xyz, Dimithrandir, Dijan. - -sche (discuss) 17:40, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the straight apostrophe ( ' ) is non-existent in Macedonian orthography. The Macedonian keyboard uses only the curly apostrophe ( ’ ), just as it uses the curly quotation marks ( „ “ ). The straight one might be used as substitute sign when there is no curly available or when technology doesn't allow it, but that's non-standard use. Since Wiktionary uses Unicode I think only the curvy apostrophe ( ’ ) should be kept, ф'стак should be moved to ф’стак. Also, the reversed curly apostrophe in ‘рж is completely wrong, it should be moved to ’рж. Dimithrandir (talk) 20:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Whichever kind of apostrophe we decide to use for mk entries, there should be hard redirects from the other kind. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

I've switched all entries to use the curly apostrophe (’) suggested above by Dimithrandir. The affected entries are named in the subheaders above. Redirects have yet to be created from the straight apostrophe forms. - -sche (discuss) 15:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)