Talk:فكر
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Metaknowledge in topic RFV discussion: November 2020–January 2021
فِكْر vs. فَكْر[edit]
Hi, could somebody clarify the difference in use between those two nouns, and if possible add some brief example for each. Does فَكْر have a broken plural as well? Thank you in advance. Backinstadiums (talk) 16:30, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
This entry has survived Wiktionary's verification process (permalink).
Please do not re-nominate for verification without comprehensive reasons for doing so.
Rfv-sense: (Arabic) to cause to think --50.60.202.243 21:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Probably should never have been requested in the first place; it is easily found on pg. 848 in Hans Wehr (4th Edition), pg. 564 in Hava, and pg. 801 in Steingass. Even without that, Verb Form II is very frequently the Causative of Form I, to think (of), becomes to cause to think (of). -Profes.I. (talk) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Profes.I.: The more interesting question is, have you already encountered such use, or perhaps remember an example? Although or because this time it is not even a native IP presumably but one from the Netherlands. It is difficult to search for this form in this meaning, as distinguished from stem I and IV and other meanings of II (the concept of thinking being frequently expressed), and it would be good to make it really clear somehow that this is not just a conjecture because stem II is just likely to have such meaning, perhaps copied over and over from some medieval philologist. Fay Freak (talk) 01:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Where does the Netherlands come into this? Both of the geolocation links we have display this as a Saudi Telecom IP, as does the Whois link. One of the other links does refer to RIPE NCC, which is headquartered in the Netherlands, but that's Europe's regional internet registry- not an internet service provider. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Profes.I., Fay Freak This sense is well-known, and used in dialects as well. You can find it on Almaany as well. فين أخاي (talk) 00:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Profes.I.: The more interesting question is, have you already encountered such use, or perhaps remember an example? Although or because this time it is not even a native IP presumably but one from the Netherlands. It is difficult to search for this form in this meaning, as distinguished from stem I and IV and other meanings of II (the concept of thinking being frequently expressed), and it would be good to make it really clear somehow that this is not just a conjecture because stem II is just likely to have such meaning, perhaps copied over and over from some medieval philologist. Fay Freak (talk) 01:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- RFV-kept. No basis for deletion. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)