Talk:وصلة
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Rfv-sense: “(linguistics) wasla (diacritic)” --176.44.49.115 21:53, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- This sense is defined in w:Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic by Hans Wehr. The definition is available online (page 1258, on the left side of the page). Not sure if the entry requires further verification. @Fenakhay, Fay Freak: FYI. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:40, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Fenakhay, Fay Freak: Do we need to add citations? Or we just keep based on the dictionary entry? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Atitarev, Fenakhay: I would first like to know what the diacritic is called if not that, or what else the word is supposed to mean. Is the diacritic only called هَمْزَة وَصْل (hamza(t) waṣl) as opposed to هَمْزَة قَـطْع (hamza(t) qaṭʕ) perhaps. The IP might mean وَصْلَة (waṣla) means only the linguistic phenomenon of liaison for which this diacritic is used, not the diacritic itself. But the IP is a prescriptivist and does not talk much, and in that case وَصْلَة (waṣla) still needs a gloss for a particular meaning in language description. But I find here some Lebanese saying this, probably independently from Wehr: “In fully vocalized texts, hamzat lwaSl is represented by a small symbol called waSlaŧ / وَصْلَة, which sits atop the Āalif in place of the regular hamzaŧ.” Maybe it is a regional sense. Fay Freak (talk) 14:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Fenakhay, Fay Freak: I am pretty sure the sense is for the diacritic itself (the small symbol) appearing over the letter ٱ. That's what the dictionary says and your Lebanese example. We can't discuss something with someone who refuses to engage, can we? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:34, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Atitarev, Fenakhay: I would first like to know what the diacritic is called if not that, or what else the word is supposed to mean. Is the diacritic only called هَمْزَة وَصْل (hamza(t) waṣl) as opposed to هَمْزَة قَـطْع (hamza(t) qaṭʕ) perhaps. The IP might mean وَصْلَة (waṣla) means only the linguistic phenomenon of liaison for which this diacritic is used, not the diacritic itself. But the IP is a prescriptivist and does not talk much, and in that case وَصْلَة (waṣla) still needs a gloss for a particular meaning in language description. But I find here some Lebanese saying this, probably independently from Wehr: “In fully vocalized texts, hamzat lwaSl is represented by a small symbol called waSlaŧ / وَصْلَة, which sits atop the Āalif in place of the regular hamzaŧ.” Maybe it is a regional sense. Fay Freak (talk) 14:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Fenakhay, Fay Freak: Do we need to add citations? Or we just keep based on the dictionary entry? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- RFV-kept. Not a great practice, as we should really add quotes, but I think we can pass this on widespread use. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 08:35, 17 December 2020 (UTC)