Talk:British Pakistani

RFD discussion: February 2022

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British Pakistani

We do not want to have limitless SoP names for immigrant communities, do we? We do not have British Chinese, British Malaysian, British Iraqi, British Sri Lankan, Indian American, Japanese American, Chinese American, Korean American, Russian American, Nigerian American, Polish Irish, etc. etc. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 16:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete, SoP. --Rishabhbhat (talk) 17:12, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete. Binarystep (talk) 18:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete as SoP. — SGconlaw (talk) 20:55, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete (SOP). Overlordnat1 (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete The only way I can think of arguing against it being a SOP would be to consider the word order. "Irish American" = "person now in America with roots from Ireland", whereas "British Pakistani" = "person now in Britain with roots from Pakistan". I tried to find uses of "British Pakistani" to refer to British people living in Pakistan and failed, so it does seem to only have that one sense. That said, I'm not sure this is enough of a fried egg to save the word, as the same note about word order is predictable with every compound nationality containing "British": British Iraqi, British Chinese, etc. Perhaps it's worth a usage note at most, if even that. (One other reason for this phenomenon could, of course, be the fact that there are far more Pakistani immigrants to the UK than vice versa, so either sense is "possible" and it's just a matter of statistics that the other is not attested. But given the colonial history involved, it wouldn't be too implausible to find.) 70.172.194.25 21:52, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

That would still be SoP in my view – it’s still British + Pakastani. — SGconlaw (talk) 05:10, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete per nom —Svārtava ^[t•u•r] 04:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete as SOP, although it'd be interesting to find if any references have remarked on the word-order vs meaning point the IP makes, that we could add a usage note (to British?) about. - -sche (discuss) 00:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@-sche There may be a subtle/subliminal distinction shown by which noun is used as the head: an Irish American is an American whose origin traces back to Ireland. A British Pakistani is a Pakistani who is now British. I'm sure an anthropologist could go into some depth about what that might say about attitudes toward immigrants in Europe vs. America. As to the matter at hand, I'm sure that distinction pervades pretty much all terms for members of immigrant communities in either the US or the UK, so it doesn't save any such term from being SOP. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:08, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete, SOP. J3133 (talk) 00:33, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

RFD-snowball deleted. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 00:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

What is 'snowball-deleted', may I ask? 2402:E280:3E1D:739:A55A:6B42:4D7F:FC48 12:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

It's an out-of-process closure in cases where there are only delete votes and quite many of them in quick succession. See also Talk:ex-Beatle and Talk:COVID_denier. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 12:20, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

See also: WP:SNOW. —Svārtava (t/u) • 13:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

It comes from "a snowball's chance in hell of passing". Theknightwho (talk) 22:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)