Talk:Hypatia

RFD discussion: September 2023–August 2024

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Hypatia

I thought WT:CFI did not permit names of individual persons. This certainly seems like a "name of a specific entity". But the wording seems to allow inclusion of a person with a one-part name. At the very least, the definition is encyclopedic, not a dictionary definition. Probably a definition like "A female given name of Greek origin". Maybe also it is a surname. DCDuring (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

The name has been given to a few women, such as Hypatia Bradlaugh Bonner. Hypatia Tarleton is a character in GBS's play Misalliance. The name is derived from Ancient Greek ὕπατος (húpatos, “highest, best”).  --Lambiam 11:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I've added an ordinary given name sense and converted this to rfd-sense. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 12:53, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

CFI only says "No individual person should be listed as a sense in any entry whose page title includes both a given name or diminutive and a family name or patronymic [like] Walter Elias Disney". In practice, we so far seem to also exclude modern mononymic people, like the millions of truly mononymic Indonesians (Suharto, Sukarno, etc, who literally do not have any other parts to their names) and people who have but don't use last names like Madonna. However, we include a lot of old mononymic people (including the ancient equivalents of Madonna, people who did have full names but are just best known by mononyms), like Cicero and Virgil and Confucius... - -sche (discuss) 16:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

So, in the absence of any further input from anyone else, I say weak keep unless we're going to start getting rid of ancient mononymic people like that (see also: non-mononymic people, like Gengis Khan) more systematically. - -sche (discuss) 04:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep as passing CFI and in keeping with existing practice. — excarnateSojourner (ta·co) 03:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 04:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)