Talk:Kamboj

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See Talk:kamboji. - -sche (discuss) 19:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

ON KAMBOJ/KAMBOH AND KAMBOJA CONNECTION

A glossary of the tribes and castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Provine by H. A. Rose was written in 1882 not in 1997 and it is already out-dated. H. A. Rose was somewhat confused in his write-up on the Kamboh/Kamboj in the Glossary which he first wrote in 1881/1882.

But as against H. A. Rose, one can also produce below the list of other Foreign and Indian scholars who indisputably connect/link the Kamboh/Kamboj with Ancient Kambojas. I have collected only few important one’s. There is numerous more on the list. One can multiply this list by the hundereds and thousands if quantity is any criteria for this purpose. So please stop misrepresenting the Kamboj history out-of bias and don’t base your decision on the lone statement of out-dated H. A Rose of the 1881/182. Even several of his arguments on Kamboj are out-of-place and can be easily dispensed with.

LIST OF AUTHORS CONNECTING KAMBOJ/KAMBOH WITH THE ANCIENT KAMBOJAS

A. Foreign Scholars

An ethnographical hand-book for the N.-W. provinces and Oudh, William Crooke - 1890, p 101; History, folk-lore & culture of the races of North Western India, Volume 1, Sir Henry Miers Elliot, John Beames - 1978; Calcutta review: Volume 54, University of Calcutta - 1872 , Page 70 Thomas S Smith, P Carnegy; Mauryan India , 1985, p 306, Grigoriĭ Maksimovich Bongard-Levin; Memoirs on the history, folk-lore, and distribution of the races, Sir Henry Miers Elliot, John Beames – 1869, p 304; British Mediation in the Danish German Conflict 1848-1850, 1965, p 79, Holger Hjelholt; Historisk-filosofiske meddelelser: Volumes 40-41, 1965, p 79, Kongelige Danske videnskabernes selskab; Epigraphia zeylanica: being lithic and other inscriptions of Ceylon: Volume 2; Volume 2 , 1928, p 75, Ceylon. Archeological Dept, Ceylon. Archeological Dept; Indian antiquary: Volume 62; Volume 62 , 1986, p 130, Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland; Journal: Volume 43, 1874, p 260, 1874, Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal; Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania, 2009, p 359, Barbara A. West

B. Indian Scholars

People of India: Chandigarh, Suresh Kumar, V Bhalla, Swaran Singh, 1997; Tribes of ancient India, 1977, p 567, Mamata Choudhury; History of origin of some clans in India, with special reference, Mangal Sen Jindal – 1992, p 151; The Annals and magazine of natural history, American Museum of Natural History, Page 260; Muslims, S. H. M. Rizvi, Shibani Roy, B. B. Dutta – 1998; The age of Shankara, Udayavira Shastri , p 240 sqq, 1981; History, Religion and Culture of India, S. Gajrani – 2004, Page 228; Farmers of India: Punjab Himachal Pradesh, Jammy & Kashmir, by Dr M. S Randhawa, Indian Council of Agricultural Research, Mohindar Singh Randhawa, Indian Council of Agricultural Research - 1959, p 103; History of Afghanistan - Page 55 Political, legal, and military history of India: Volume 1, Harbans Singh Bhatia - 1984 p 50; Proceedings - Punjab History Conference: Part 1, Issue 27, Punjabi University. Dept. of Punjab Historical Studies - 1996 , p 40 sqq; Punjab history conference: Part 1, 26th Session : Papers: Volume 1, 1994, Panjabi University Patiala , Gursharan Singh; Punjab state gazetteer: Volume 2, Punjab (India), Jagmohan Singh Hans, Punjab (India). Revenue and Rehabilitation Dept - 2000 ; Encyclopaedia of Indian tribes, Padma Shri S. S. Shashi – 1997; Proceedings - Punjab History Conference: Volume 26, Issue 1, Punjabi University. Dept. of Punjab Historical Studies - 1995; India and the world: researches in India's policies, contacts, and Peoples of the World, 1964, Dr Budha Prakash ;Jats, the ancient rulers: a clan study, Bhim Singh Dahiya – 1980; Geographical and economic studies in the Mahābhārata: Upāyana parva, 1945, p 38 sqq, Moti Chandra; Indian cultural influence in Cambodia, 1964, pp 4, 256, Bijan Raj Chatterjee; The Punjabis: the people, their history, culture and enterprise: Volume 1 , Iqbal S. Sekhon - 2000; The Journal of the Bihar Research Society: Volume 16, Bihar Research Society - 1930 ; The problems of Indian society , 1968, p 69, Devabrata Bose History of Poros p 12, 1967, Dr Budha Prakash; Geography from ancient Indian coins & seals, 1989, p 24/25, Dr Parmanand Gupta - 1989 Page 24/25; Kamboja itihāsa, Mian̲ Raushanuddin, Prītama Siṅgha Parawānā, 2011 Die Holztempel des oberen Kulutales in ihren historischen, religiösen und kunstgeschichtlichen Zusammenhängen, 1974 , p 26, Gabriele Jettmar; Inscriptions of Aśoka: translation and glossary, 1990, p 86, Beni Madhab Barua, Binayendra Nath Chaudhury, Dr Beni Madhab Barua; Political and social movements in ancient Panjab, 1964, p 251, Buddha Prakash; Vishveshvaranand Indological journal: Volume 30; Volume 30 1992, p 206, Vishveshvaranand Vedic Research Institute, Vishveshvaranand Vishva Bandhu Institute of Sanskrit and Indological Studies, Vishveshvaranand Vedic Research Institute; The Journal of the Bihar Research Society: Volume 14, 1928, Bihar Research Society; Punjab District Gazetteers: Amritsar. Supplement, 1976, p 85, Punjab (India), Punjab (India); The people and culture of Bengal, a study in origins: Volume 1, Part 2; Volume 1, Part 2 , pp 560 sqq; The Cultural Heritage of India: Itihāsas, Purāṇas, Dharma and other śāstras. 1962, p 615, Ramakrishna Mission. Institute of Culture; Geographical data in the early Purāṇas: a critical study, 1972, p 165 sqq Dr M. R. Singh; Hindu polity: a constitutional history of India in Hindu times, 2005, p 139, Dr K. P. Prasad Jayaswal; The prehistory of India: tribal migrations, 1948, p 49, Chandra Chakraberty Kirāta-jana-kṛti, 1951, p 113, Dr S. K. Chatterji; History of Afghanistan, 2008, Page 18; Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal: Volume 43, 1874, p 260; Indo-Aryans, 1881, p 187 sqq, Rājendralāla Mitra; India's communities: Volume 6, 1998, Anthropological Survey of India; India Divided Religion 'Then' (1947) (East-West), Mohin Jadarro Harappa; Bhartya Itihaas ki ruprekha, 229-301, Bhartya Itihaas ki ruprekha, p 531-33, Dr J. C. Vidyalankar etc etc...............The list is endless against the outdated and confused views of H. A. Rose.

Please discuss if you so choose.

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Kamboj

Since yesterday, an IP has been editing this, starting by reverting to a version from 15 November 2009‎ (in my edit summary I said August 2010; that's also correct as those two versions are identical) and has now added a LOT of extra information, making it a lot more like a Wikipedia article than it was previously. I don't however feel confident enough on this subject to clean it up myself, so I'm listing it here. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:54, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Seems this may be Wikipedia:User:Satbir Singh, indef blocked some years ago for editing Kamboj-related articles in an unacceptable way. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

It's getting longer and longer. Any objections if I trim it right back to a simple dictionary definition? SemperBlotto (talk) 21:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me- maybe it's just 'cause I'm a newbie, but I think that's why it's in RFC... ;-) I've been watching that rickety pile of POV accumulating for some time now, but I don't know the subject matter well enough to deal with a persistently contentious user like this one seems to be. That noise you hear in the background is a whole bunch of people trying to conceal their relief that someone else is dealing with this. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I've done some trimming. I think the etymology section is good now (somewhat expanded, but not so much that it becomes encyclopedic). My concern is with the three senses which exist now where there was previously only one. - -sche (discuss) 09:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)