Talk:PETボトル

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PETボトル

SoP. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Is ペットボトル SoP too? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:22, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Do we have an entry [[PET bottle]], which has passed RFD? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:40, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

I would also check a bunch of requested Japanese entries by Daniel Carrero at WT:WE, some look like SoP or borderline. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:51, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

IMO "PET bottle" is a strange construction that should be kept. (I'd give better reasoning for keeping but I suck at explaining my thoughts...) —suzukaze (t・c) 13:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

PET doesn't have a Japanese section. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm, this is the answer to the question "how do you say 'plastic bottle' in Japanese"... seems like Wiktionary should have that information somewhere. Siuenti (talk) 23:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

PET comes from polyethylene terephthalate, but everyone read it as 'pet', including my country. (ขวด PET, ขวดเพ็ท or something) About mixed-script words, many entries in Wiktionary can have them, for example in top list of Category:Chinese simplified forms. So PET doesn't need to have a Japanese section. --Octahedron80 (talk) 13:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Presumably it needs a translingual section, then. Per your own comment. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

PET is a loadword from English both in Japanese and in Thai. There is no need to create a translingual section. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 05:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Keep. PETボトル is common while PET is not, and a Japanese chemist would pronounce the latter as pī ī tī to avoid a possible confusion with ペット. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 05:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

• As ancillary evidence suggesting SOP-ness, there are also the collocations google:"PET袋" (petto-bukuro, “PET bag”) and google:"PET箱" (petto-bako, “PET box”). I would hazard that PET has become something of a synonym in Japanese for “plastic (especially of a particular thickness and/or strength)”. /petto/ is certainly easier to pronounce than /puɺ̠asʉtikku/. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 17:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
• Keep besides the reasons mentioned above, mainstream dictionaries, which have generally the same approaches to inclusion, all have it--at least Kōjien, Meikyo, and Progressive do. Honestly I can't think of any other way to say "plastic bottle" (simply botoru refers to glass bottles) nor can have I heard another use of "PET" in the sense of plastic. PET箱 and PET袋 get few results and they tend to be web pages of manufacturers. --Haplogy (話) 05:36, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

• google:"PETで作った" (made of / from PET) finds a number of relevant hits. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 01:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

• Keep I live in Japan and I've confirmed two PET bottles in my kitchen right now.Both of them has a notice written as PETボトル and I've found the word at this link. Even if you don't have Japanese font, you can confirm it. "ペットボトル" and "PETボトル", they should be considered as a synonym--Carl Daniels (talk) 12:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you for confirming the existence of this phrase. However, the question is not whether the phrase exists, but whether it is idiomatic. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:59, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• RFD kept per consensus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC)