Talk:balipholite
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Tagged in August by User:EI at10s but apparently never listed here. Equinox ◑ 21:19, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- The Chinese in the etymology seems dubious- "-pho-" could easily be formed in English. DTLHS (talk) 21:20, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've added 3 citations. Equinox ◑ 21:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it seems dubious. However, this is the official etymology from this analytical source: [1]. I have tried researching what it may be but I found no results. MDBG did not help (which is my regular Chinese source), and -pho- definitely does not refer to phosphorus as it usually does in mineral names, as there is none in the mineral. EI at10s (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- There's κάρφος (kárphos, “straw”) (carpholite). DTLHS (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- You are likely very correct; the two minerals are very closely related so that may be the etymology source; at least, referring to the word carpholite rather than its etymology. But, there's no way of really confirming that. Should it be entered anyway? EI at10s (talk) 19:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- In the abstract of the original(?) paper ("The refinement of crystal structure of balipholite", 1987), they say "Balipholite has the simailar structure as that of the carpholite group but with large cations Ba occupying the caves of the structure." That seems like enough confirmation to me. DTLHS (talk) 02:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- You are likely very correct; the two minerals are very closely related so that may be the etymology source; at least, referring to the word carpholite rather than its etymology. But, there's no way of really confirming that. Should it be entered anyway? EI at10s (talk) 19:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- There's κάρφος (kárphos, “straw”) (carpholite). DTLHS (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it seems dubious. However, this is the official etymology from this analytical source: [1]. I have tried researching what it may be but I found no results. MDBG did not help (which is my regular Chinese source), and -pho- definitely does not refer to phosphorus as it usually does in mineral names, as there is none in the mineral. EI at10s (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've added 3 citations. Equinox ◑ 21:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- RFV passed. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)