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English rhymes[edit]

It seems that you have added institute, destitute, etc. to Rhymes:English/uːt and parsimony, testimony, etc. to Rhymes:English/əʊni, and added {{rhyme}} linking to the respective Rhymes pages on each word entry. But all these words have stress on the first syllable, so the rhyme of parsimony is /-ɑː(ɹ)sɪmə(ʊ)ni/, and that of institute is, well, /-ɪnstɪt(j)uːt/. In some, particularly American, schools, it is arguable that a syllable that comes after the primary (tonic) stress in these words bears a secondary stress, but that's not the kind of stress that we talk about when we talk about rhymes. I've never heard of such a definition of a rhyme that "institute rhymes with root". I think you should undo the additions. Nardog (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

To me they rhyme. Remove them if you want, I won't edit any more rhyme pages. DTLHS (talk) 22:26, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Alright, removed. Nardog (talk) 23:06, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


Presumably you disagree with the explanation given in the edit you recently rolled back; care to offer your own explanation? 15:11, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

It's a figurative use, it seems clearly distinct to me. RFD it if you want. DTLHS (talk) 00:42, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Just to be clear - the sentence ‘attesting’ this figurative use of the unqualified term genocide makes immediate sense to you in the sense of culturicide, and not literal killing, if one excises the qualifier ‘cultural’? 2607:FB90:9DAA:B266:ED39:8BBC:3BBD:4CB2 17:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea what you're talking about. I told you to take it to RFD. DTLHS (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

outbrake oneself[edit]

Hi outbrake oneself has a different meaning to outbreak someone else. If A outbrakes B, A appies their brakes later than B, (in order to overtake). But if A outbrakes himself, it means he applied the brakes too late for the bend and could not get around it properly. (go wide). So it deserves some kind of mention. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I am moving this discussion to where other people can see it. DTLHS (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

about roll back on ਪਹਾਰਾ[edit]

Hi!Please tell me if u remove English translation section , then how to back link ਪਹਾਰਾ with forge .Guglani (talk) 01:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

You can put it in the definition as I have done. DTLHS (talk) 03:21, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi! please show me how? Either show with link or explain procedure , I could not follow with what you have done.Guglani (talk) 05:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
diff DTLHS (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again ,anyway , I had seen difference between revisions 50057740 and 50054249 earlier and conveyed my thanks earlier too which you have reverted on this talk pageGuglani (talk) 08:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
No, I was the one who reverted it: you accidentally deleted several other people's comments when you added yours. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

French request[edit]

Hi. I'm working with what comes to my mind at User:Per utramque cavernam/French, but I'd like to be more systematic.

I've noticed someone has done a surprisingly good job with French idioms at el.wiktionary, and I'd like to see if we're missing a lot here. So would you know how to extract the contents of el:Κατηγορία:Γαλλική γλώσσα (= CAT:French lemmas), and make a list of multiword entries (i.e. with a space in the title) from that? Preferably the list would contain only red links.

(Could be useful to do the same out of fr:Catégorie:français, but there will be a lot more, and probably a lot of less urgently needed things.)

Please let me know! Thanks. Per utramque cavernam 10:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes I can do that. DTLHS (talk) 16:02, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Nice, thanks! Per utramque cavernam 20:28, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. If it's not too much hassle, could I ask you to do the same thing with the Dutch wiktionary category (nl:Categorie:Woorden in het Frans)? Per utramque cavernam 16:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/missing dutch french entries DTLHS (talk) 00:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Per utramque cavernam 13:27, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/Greek French phrases DTLHS (talk) 01:09, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Indeed, very nice. --New WT User Girl (talk) 17:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I've just created a hundred or so redirects from the curly apostrophe to the straight one, but I've only taken care of entries I've created myself; there's bound to be more in need of it.

So do you think you could make a list of all entries having a straight apostrophe in their title? I could then make a subst to the curly and see how many red links there are. Per utramque cavernam 19:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

All entries from where? DTLHS (talk) 19:11, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Here (CAT:French lemmas). Sorry for the confusion. Per utramque cavernam 19:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, in a few hours. DTLHS (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/French apostrophes DTLHS (talk) 00:45, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Per utramque cavernam 08:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Is there a way to make a list of all the French red links in our translation tables? That would help me to find missing words, and also to spot translations that have been incorrectly entered (translations with parentheses, for example).

Joyeux Noël btw. Per utramque cavernam 13:38, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/cleanup/french t missing, limited it to the first 50,000 entries. Didn't filter redirects. DTLHS (talk) 19:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Bonté divine ! Per utramque cavernam 21:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi. The Kurdi Wiktionary (ku.wiktionary), of all places, often has entries for English idioms that we lack; an example would be on the quiet, which has only recently been created here - by me. Could you make another of those lists out of it? Canonicalization (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Canonicalization User:DTLHS/Kurdish English entries DTLHS (talk) 01:23, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

combined forms, slightly different[edit]

Hey again. I need your help in generating a list of any entries that use {{es-compound of}} but not in the definition line - it's to get a list of Spanish combined forms that have idiomatic meanings, such as arreglárselas, meneársela etc. --New WT User Girl (talk) 21:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

unirse, dársela, arreglárselas, palmarla, cortarla, parirla, liarla, liarlas, ingeniárselas, jugársela, agenciárselas DTLHS (talk) 01:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Sweet. I added some more to the list. Any idea of a category name? My think tank came up with Category:Spanish combined forms with idiomatic meaning, Category:Spanish clitic verb phrases and Category:Spanish compounds with special meaning. --New WT User Girl (talk) 17:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
(I think) we have the same thing in French: se la péter. Maybe we should come up with a common scheme. Per utramque cavernam 18:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Does "phrasal verb" not work? DTLHS (talk) 18:43, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Nope! acabar de, acabar con and abusar de are phrasal verbs, if there are any in Spanish. --New WT User Girl (talk) 19:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
A similar case: on the model of CAT:English terms with placeholder "it", I've also created CAT:French verbs with placeholder y and CAT:French verbs with placeholder en (although someone has argued over at fr.wikt that they're not really "placeholders", and has suggested the name CAT:French verbs with lexicalized en instead).
So maybe you and I could create CAT:Spanish verbs with lexicalized pronouns and CAT:French verbs with lexicalized pronouns respectively? Per utramque cavernam 08:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
So I made Category:Spanish verbs with an article as a placeholder, which beat out the rest for least crap name. A close second was Category:Spanish verbs with lexical clitics. --XY3999 (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
@XY3999: Are you sure these are articles though? Articles are supposed to determine nouns, and there aren't any in vérselas y deseárselas. I think they're pronouns, as in French. Per utramque cavernam 11:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, they're obviously pronouns. Good thing I made a deliberate mistake in order to get feedback. --XY3999 (talk) 11:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I now prefer Category:Spanish idiomatic combined forms. --XY3999 (talk) 17:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Red Badge of Courage[edit]

Here's your own Red Badge of Courage, DTLHS, for all the courageous work you do here at en.wiktionary

Yes, I'm checking all the Red Badge of Courage quotes. I've already found one that was not from that novel but from another one of Stephen Crane's works, and one quote where the spellings did not match the source. We have just finished a first edition on Wikisource, so I am taking the opportunity to make corrections here, and link directly to source pages on the Wikiosurce copy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. DTLHS (talk) 20:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


From your interesting word list: undinting seems attestable insofar as a bunch of people have used it, but it generally seems to be an error for undinted (and in fact even that word seems a bit odd to me: I feel as though there is some other word these people are reaching for, but I can't work out what it is). So it seems to mean "not checked or stopped, boundless" rather than (as "undinting" would suggest) "not checking or stopping some other thing". Do you think we should use the misconstruction template? Equinox 04:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps unstinted or unstinting is what (some of) those writers meant. Equinox 04:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Sure, "misconstruction" works. It does feel like a word that almost means something (on an unconscious level, if that makes sense). DTLHS (talk) 04:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


Hey D. Could you regen the pages at User:DTLHS/eswikisource? It could also be optimized by making auto-links to any combined forms, like was done in the Tracking pages - we see tenérselas and echadle and we can click on a link that auto-makes the page. We may or may not want to do that for obsolete combined forms like hízolos, sonreíase, moviose, movióse. --XY3999 (talk) 11:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 17:10, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Reverts on abba[edit]

Why were my edits reverted? Am I doing something wrong, they were in good faith. Torrent01 (talk) 22:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Every entry needs to conform to WT:ELE. Your entry had no indication what the connection was supposed to be with אָב. DTLHS (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Abba is the Latin alphabet transliteration of אָב. Please restore the entry with the proper formatting. Torrent01 (talk) 22:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
See About Hebrew. We don't do those. Besides which your transliteration is massively wrong: you can't get "abba" out of אָב- it only has one vowel, and the ב has no daghesh, so it's not double. The Hebrew transliteration is "ov". Chuck Entz (talk) 03:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
I see that your entry was for Judeo-Tat. See WT:Judeo-Tat transliteration instead of About Hebrew. That said, the Judeo-Tat transliteration is the same as the Hebrew one, so you were still massively wrong- in spite of the correct transliteration being right there at אָב(ov) (not to mention in the {{jdt-scripts}} template you added to the entry). You shouldn't be editing any language that uses the Hebrew script, if this is any indication. Chuck Entz (talk) Chuck Entz (talk) 03:57, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Fraud revert[edit]

What's your issue with my edit? Also, please do not make reverts without an explanation in the edit summary, especially when the edit is reliably sourced. White whirlwind (talk) 22:08, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Black's Law Dictionary is irrelevant. Individual English definitions do not rely on specific references. References is a level 3 header and not a level 2 header. DTLHS (talk) 22:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Missing conj[edit]

Hey D, ¿can you generate a page of all one-word Spanish verbs without a ====Conjugation==== section? --XY3999 (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


Hey guapo. You're the Spanish Modules expert around here (as well as expert in sooo many other things...TBH, you're my hero). I made acero al carbono and the auto-gen plural was acero al carbonos, which should be aceros al carbono. Maybe the es-noun Module (or whatever it is) needs fiddling. --XY3999 (talk) 13:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 16:14, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


Hey. Any chance of an update of User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? We've been working through some misspellings on es.wikipedia, and I've done loads of missing entries here. Nice to see how much progress has been made, and if any tyops have been missed. --WF110 (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)--WF110 (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey. Another update would be good! Especially for the combined forms. --XY3999 (talk) 09:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Updated. DTLHS (talk) 03:54, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

How to find quotations of a word[edit]

Hi DTLHS, Thanks again for your help over at the tea room regarding cargon.

I was wondering, how did you find so many quality quotations for it so quickly?

I have another word I'm investigating, babbit, from Alcolu,_South_Carolina, which are claimed to be "a metal coin stamped with an "A", which could be used only in the company store." and I was wondering if you could teach me how to find uses of a word in literature to confirm or deny it's inclusion/definition.

Much appreciated for your help, Elfabet (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I basically just use Google Books. DTLHS (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
I found one example at Citations:babbit and another at Citations:babbitt referring to coins- one in Florida and another from a place called Agton(? not sure where that is). Not contemporary usages but historical books. @Kiwima is good at this kind of thing, maybe they can help. Regional newspapers would be a good place to look, if you have any access to that type of resource. DTLHS (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
I mostly use google books, google scholar, and google groups - I find the key to finding quotations is a combination of persistence (keep looking even when most of what you find is dross), and finding good search terms to add or exclude to narrow the field. Kiwima (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)


Hey D. Your bot doesn't seem to like generating forms for Spanish superlatives like celebradísimo, bondadosísimo. Any reason for its pickiness? --XY3999 (talk) 18:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

I never implemented es-adj-sup, but I guess I can. DTLHS (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
So I redirected es-adj-sup to es-adj so there's no need to tweak the code. It can reverted if necessary. --XY3999 (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


Hey D. Next time you antiblue your Tracking pages, I reckon it'd b a smart move to remove anything which has a Catalan link in pages like User:DTLHS/tracking/El Periodico (Spanish)/20161015. --XY3999 (talk) 18:15, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Category:Maltese English[edit]

88% of the Maltese population speaks English, yet this category is a red link. I reckon it might be worth looking through their newspapers or whatever you do to find some of their particular words. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

OK, added some. I will leave it up to you to judge whether some of these should actually be called "English" words. DTLHS (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Seems like a good start. Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:49, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs[edit]

Hello. I saw you were creating a lot of templates and categories and I thought you could maybe help me with something. This category was created recently which is a good start, but I have long wanted to have something similar to Category:Hindi_phrasal_verbs, where the light verb constructions are sorted by the verbal element. I have no idea how to do this though, except for creating a new category for each light verb manually and placing links under every light verb construction, which doesn't seem like a good solution. Can you look at this, if it's not too much of an effort? There is an (incomplete) list of verbs that are used in such constructions here. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Maybe. What's an example of a construction and categorization that you would want? Can you create a few by hand to start with so I can get a better idea? DTLHS (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I'll do so. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
So my idea is that all verbs in Category:Azerbaijani_compound_verbs will be co-subcategorized under a category for every verbal element that is there. Thus, anadan olmaq and nail olmaq will be in Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs with olmaq, the very many etmək-verbs in Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs with etmək and so on. I see that currently, all Hindi phrasal verbs have a category link placed there manually, whereas the corresponding Persian verbs do not, it seems to be built into the conjugation template. What do you think? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 23:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
OK, I made the template Template:az-verb-light (please move it to a different title if you don't like the name). It looks for the last element of the verb (split by spaces) to categorize. The categorization can be overridden with the "c" parameter. DTLHS (talk) 00:42, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
That is so cool, thank you very much! I guess it takes some time for the implementation to take place? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:08, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean by implementation, I'm not going to add it to any entries. DTLHS (talk) 01:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I figured it out! I thought was a modification of the main conjugation template rather than a new head template. I'll do it, thanks again Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:28, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello. For the most part, the template works perfectly and the way I intended. Do you have an idea why the entries in Category:Azerbaijani_compound_verbs_with_etmək don't get the category link, though? The other entries do get it Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Probably cached. DTLHS (talk) 18:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Everything works now. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


I added two images to "abandon" fro wikimedia commons and they were removed. Why? Hjh1313 (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)hjh1313

The images were not useful or appropriate for a serious dictionary. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:23, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Furthermore you inserted them in the middle of a block of definitions which is not an appropriate place. DTLHS (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding images adds clarity to a definition. Meaning is in the environment and context in which a word is used. Images specify the environment and context much better than simply words. Is this simply your opinion or do you make final judgements for Wiktionary? Today's technology allows for serious dictioanries to be more than words. Hjh1313 (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)hjh1313

Replacement of uses of {{seeSynonyms}}[edit]

Hello! Following a discussion at "Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Others#Template:seeSynonyms", that template has been deleted. Could you please do a bot run to replace uses of this template? I haven't examined many examples of how the template has been used, but the basic one would be:

  • {{seeSynonyms|hate|sense=1}} → ''See'' [[Thesaurus:hate]]

I'm not sure how sophisticated the replacements can be. For example, if {{seeSynonyms}} appears after a list of other synonyms, it would be preferable to use see also instead of See, like this:

  • ABC, DEF, GHI; {{seeSynonyms|JKL}} → ABC, DEF, GHI; ''see also'' [[Thesaurus:JLK]]

But if that proves too complicated, I think the basic replacement would be sufficient for now. Thanks in advance. — SGconlaw (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm not going to replace a template with bare text. I'm either deleting the line entirely or not at all. DTLHS (talk) 22:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Er, why? That was apparently the result of the discussion: that the template was unnecessary and should just be replaced by text. (Note that I was not involved in the discussion; I only closed it.) — SGconlaw (talk) 01:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Why would we delete it if we're replacing its uses with the exact same thing, but written out without the benefit of a template? That is incredibly pointless. DTLHS (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
*Shrug* As I said, I didn't take part in the discussion. OK, no worries. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't think you understand what Dan Polansky's intent is. "The consensus is for deletion, not for keeping and changing the text." That means the whole thing should be deleted, not just the template. DTLHS (talk) 03:29, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't think so. Dan was referring to the fact that I had retained the template but merely shortened the text in the template, which was originally "For semantic relationships of this sense, see XYZ in the Thesaurus". See the following remarks by people who took part in the discussion – Dan: "I think it better to reference the thesaurus without a template, using a short phrase like "See also Thesaurus:cat""; AdamBMorgan: "I have no objection to deleting the template and replacing it with a short phrase.". — SGconlaw (talk) 03:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
You are correct, my bad. DTLHS (talk) 03:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
No worries. Would you like to do the replacement? If not, no worries at all. I'll see if another bot operator would like to assist. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Absolutely not, there is no reason for it to be deleted. DTLHS (talk) 03:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I just saw your comment on the discussion page. OK, let's see how this plays out. Thanks. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Greek verb cats[edit]

Thanks for creating some conjugation cats for some Greek verbs - at present Greek verbs fall into 2 groups - those using olf conjugation templates and those using new ones. So there are the categorisation of the paradigms also falls into 2 groups. This dichotomy will eventually be sorted out when verbs have been transferred from the 'old' to the 'new' templates. — Saltmarsh. 15:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Page protection request for {{lang}}[edit]

This page was recently vandalised, as it's fairly key to a lot of pages of Wiktionary, I would like to request that unless there's an active need for it to be widely edited, that it is put under page protection. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

DTLHS partially protected it, but it's used by other templates and most non-admins won't understand the consequences of editing it, so I made it admin-and-template-editor only. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

EWDC discussion[edit]

Hello! I'm pondering doing EWDC again. See User talk:Equinox/EWDC. Equinox 04:00, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

remove {rfc-auto}?[edit]

Your bot seems to accomplish everything that needs to be done to remove {{rfc-auto}}, but is not removing the template. Is that something you are intentionally leaving behind, or just an oversight? - TheDaveRoss 18:14, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't remember. I probably just didn't feel like dealing with it. It seems utterly useless now, I'll orphan and delete it. DTLHS (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
@SemperBlotto I think SemperBlotto's page-from-file loads still add language sections out of order and tag the pages with that template, might want to make sure he is on the same page. - TheDaveRoss 15:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
My bot hasn't run in ages - it stopped working after some wiki software update and I haven't bothered to figure out how to fix it. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

re excess[edit]

I figure I should move a bunch to citations:cow-handed but I'm not sure which ones. EphFan (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

It is entirely subjective, but whichever you feel best exemplify the word, or are notable in some other way, should probably stay on the main page. DTLHS (talk) 16:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


Why did you back out my edit, which was merely adding another cite? Kiwima (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I did, see page history. DTLHS (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
It was from looking at the page history that I knew to direct this message to you. Unless there is someone else using your identity. Kiwima (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean. I made one edit to the page: diff. I did not remove any content you added. DTLHS (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
OK, this is just weird - it looks like your edit did exactly what my edit did. I am truly perplexed. Kiwima (talk) 22:30, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

{{es-adj}} and {{es-verb}}[edit]

Can you rewire these the way you did es-noun? I've been meaning to ask you after your excellent work on es-noun. I see you already have testcases for adjectives ready to go. Ultimateria (talk) 08:18, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, maybe some time in the next few months. DTLHS (talk) 03:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


Abeodan and Ablendan are not Old English given names, so yes, your reverting of my edit removing them was in error. Sigurd Dragon Slayer (talk) 04:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

That's nice, there's an RFV discussion you are free to comment on. DTLHS (talk) 04:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/eswikipedia again[edit]

Hi D. We've been pretty busy over at es.wikipedia correcting lots of spelling mistakes. And I've been busy creating lots of awesome missing Spanish entries, so it'd be nice to rerun the User:DTLHS/eswikipedia pages some time soon - really, no rush at all. And if this time you can, if possible, a) ignore anything found in templates, in URLs and other things that can be easily recognised at not-Spanish-words; b) in the search bit, link to the term in inverted commas ( instead of ) c) put some kind of rainbow colours on the page and make it spin. --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I've seen you contributing to [1]- maybe you should ask Beland if their code can easily be adapted to the Spanish Wikipedia. I'll update my page in the mean time but I probably won't be doing any fancy template filtering. DTLHS (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I have found in Moss a very stimulating and worthwhile project. Decent pool of participators, cross-wiki work, notable progress, and, possibly most importantly, not too much on the list at any given time. In short, I love Beland (but am too shy to tell them). --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


I see that you reverted my edit without explanation. Well check This indeed is an english word as well. phatom87 (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

You should probably look more carefully at what you added. DTLHS (talk) 23:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
@Phatom87: Perhaps it should be better put as an English misspelling? I think I've seen it before, but I'll have to look to be sure. -/ut͡ʃxʎørnɛja / (탁ᷞ, кон-, ឯឌឹត្ស, 𐎛𐎓𐎄𐎛𐎚𐎒). 23:09, 2 March 2019 (UTC).


Hi Mr. LHS. I've just told off Mr Wing for deleting a template that NadandoBot uses on the Spanish tracking pages. Your input would most likely be helpful in said discussion. --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 12:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


Can you make a list of transclusions that don't use |1= and |2=? Ultimateria (talk) 22:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ultimateria User:DTLHS/cleanup/pt adj missing parameters DTLHS (talk) 05:12, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


Could you please replace the "raw" references to A ǃXóõ Dictionary (an example is ʘôõ ǁnṵ́ã) with this reference template? They should only be in ǃXóõ entries. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 01:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
It doesn't seem to have been changed in the example entry I linked to. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, got that one too. DTLHS (talk) 05:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you so much! n̄ʻn̄ is the only other one I found that didn't get changed; not sure why. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I was looking for exact matches but there's a bunch of different formats that have been used. I'll try any line that contains "A ǃXóõ Dictionary". DTLHS (talk) 05:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I think it's fine now. Not sure it's worth changing the uses in the appendices, as they reference specific pages. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Another request: there seem to be a bunch of Italian proper nouns using {{g}} in the headword line that could be fixed pretty easily. See this edit for an example of what needs to be done, if you're interested. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:57, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet another list[edit]

Can you generate a list of translations with unrecognized scripts (I only mean in |sc=) for the language code? It might be a semi-regular cleanup; just today I found Knda for Hindi, Cyrl for Tagalog, Beng for Japanese, and others. I guess the parameter could be removed by bot, but it might be a good idea to manually check the entries for other errors. Ultimateria (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Sure. DTLHS (talk) 07:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ultimateria User:DTLHS/cleanup/unrecognized scripts DTLHS (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


Hey. Can you make User:DTLHS/cawikipedia, which obvs would be the Catalan version of User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? It's a present for Ultimateria's 136th month wiki-anniversary. --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Aw, you should't have! I can't believe I've been an admin almost 10 years... Ultimateria (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
I was gonna surprise you for the 10 years, guapo, but couldn't wait. --I learned some phrases (talk) 21:00, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm touched ;). But the kind of list I'd most like is User:DTLHS/missing dutch french entries but for Catalan lemmas from ca.wikt. Ultimateria (talk) 21:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, first one done, I'll see about the other later. DTLHS (talk) 05:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Todo/mismatched translation codes[edit]

Another thing, is Wiktionary:Todo/mismatched translation codes still useful or has it been superseded by another page? If the latter is true, it should be deleted --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/cleanup/mismatched translation codes DTLHS (talk) 20:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Unbalance by bot[edit]

This bot edit actually unbalanced the table. – gpvos (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

We should probably get rid of that whole Chinese structure (and other language families which get grouped in the same way). Most language families are not grouped in that way. - TheDaveRoss 17:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes, well if we actually look at the number of lines in each column, it went from 19/20 to 20/19. Unfortunately not all lines are the same height so doing naive "balancing" with a program will sometimes produce unoptimal results. DTLHS (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Placement of {{topics}}[edit]

Perhaps your bot should place {{topics}} templates below "Anagrams" sections, where categories usually appear? See this edit. — SGconlaw (talk) 04:44, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Probably... I have been avoiding dealing with this template because it sometimes gets put in places like definition lines where it should not be moved. DTLHS (talk) 04:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Should it ever be used in definition lines?! I don't see why. I wondered whether to just replace it with "[[Category:]]" but I don't think there's consensus for such a move. In any case, just ensuring that it remains in the same position as category lines would be desirable, in my view. Thanks. — SGconlaw (talk) 06:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Sgconlaw: User:Rua does that, I think. Canonicalization (talk) 12:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
I place categories next to the sense for which they are relevant, just like context labels. —Rua (mew) 12:28, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
On a slightly related note, FYI: Wiktionary:Votes/2017-05/Templatizing topical categories in the mainspace and Wiktionary:Votes/2017-07/Templatizing topical categories in the mainspace 2. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Anagrams of translation subpages[edit]

NadandoBot added an anagram on god/translations. Doesn't seem very useful to me. — Eru·tuon 20:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I will exclude those pages in the future. DTLHS (talk) 20:33, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


Hey D. Can we get another update on User:DTLHS/eswikipedia, please? Again, some excellent progress by a handful of tireless editors has brought about the elimination of a lot of spellos over there. You know hwo I feel about spelling mistakes... --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:20, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 22:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Tracking templates[edit]

Hi D. When using this page to make this page, I get the error message "Lua error in Module:quote at line 170: Only one of date= or year= should be specified". As is well-documented, I don't do templates, categories, or modules anymore as they got overcomplicated. I reckon this error message comes up because of Template:quote-journal, perhaps that template assumes that an entry must have a year. Or, alternatively, you could stop including "|year=" when making new Tracking pages like this one. Either way, I'm gonna crack on making entries and will leave any pages with module errors for now. --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. Don't make pages with errors or I'll ban you. DTLHS (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. I can never guarantee 100% error-free pages. Nobody can, really. Except maybe Chuck... --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Thnak yu for fnaly recongizing my ovious infaillability. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:03, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

arbërisht (latin script) / αρbε̰ρίσ̈τ (greek script)[edit]

You suggested that my entry for my Albanian "αρbε̰ρίσ̈τ" entry to be cleaned up. May I ask why? If you would your research, then you would know that Latin, Greek (back then, also Elbasan and Arabic) script are used to write in Albanian. As 'Arvanitika' (which is the greek term for "Arbërisht" = hence "Old Albanian") was and is still written with greek letters by Arbëreshë ppl that live in Greece. Albanians and Arbëreshë (living in Italy) use the latin script. Doesn't change the fact that Albanian is also written with greek letters. IMIPER (talk) 21:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Japanese soft-redirect entries and categories[edit]

I saw your recent edits at バラす and バレる. My understanding is that soft-redirect entries are minimal, with no categories or other details -- those are kept on the lemma page.

Looping in the creator of {{ja-see}}: @Dine2016, when I edited バラす and バレる, I tried to emulate your usage of {{ja-see}}, as in your edits at ヒンシュクを買う and ひんしゅくを買う. 1) Do the バラす and バレる pages use {{ja-see}} in accordance with your use case as you've designed that template? And 2) do you have any opinions or feedback regarding DTLHS's request for categories to be added to these soft-redirect entries? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

The template is used in many entries and most of them have categories, so I assume something is wrong when I see it used on an uncategorized page (Special:UncategorizedPages). DTLHS (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Eirikr: Hi. I'm sorry for the confusion caused by this template. The template only checks {{ja-kanjitab}} and headword templates for alternative spellings. In this case, バラす was in the alternative forms section of ばらす, so {{ja-see}} didn't see it as an alternative spelling of ばらす and did not copy any definition or category. When I wrote that template, I assumed that spoken variants would be put in the alternative forms section, while written variants would be put in {{ja-spellings}} (now {{ja-kanjitab}}) or headword templates. --Dine2016 (talk) 02:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello again, re: edits like at しの, the targeted entries haven't been built out yet, so the {{ja-see}} call doesn't have anything to pull in. The しの page itself should get categories as soon as the targeted entries are created / expanded. I'm not sure there's much value in adding {{attention}}, especially since that manual work entails later manual work to remove...? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
It clogs up Special:UncategorizedPages. I will continue to add attention flags as long as there are no categories. DTLHS (talk) 18:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Ah, interesting. Good to know. Thanks for the explanation! ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Is there a generic category it could add even if it can't find the target page? DTLHS (talk) 21:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, dunno. We seem to have lost the main maintainer of the template (@Nyarukoseijin), further complicating things... ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:23, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


Thank you very much for moving συνέτριψεv to συνέτριψεν and συνέθλιψεv to συνέθλιψεν. I knew there was something wrong, but I still do not know what it was, giving a Category:Ancient Greek terms spelled with V. I have written them again and again -without any v-, and would always get it wrong. Is there something I should be careful about in the future? Thank you sarri.greek (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

It's just the Greek nu character vs Latin v. It's not a big deal if you get it wrong once in a while. DTLHS (talk) 16:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: diff[edit]

User:Dine2016 has done some really wonderful stuff with {{ja-see}}. It looks like this template does not support historical kanji forms, however, which is why the cats from the targeted 天道虫 page are not also being pulled over to 天道蟲. Please see Talk:天道蟲 for more. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Another list[edit]

Hello again. Can you make a list of Galician, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish pages ending in mente but not in Category:Italian words suffixed with -mente et al? Also, Catalan, French, and Occitan words ending in ment? Excluding the ~100 Catalan and French entries in part of speech subcategories. Ultimateria (talk) 16:00, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/ment DTLHS (talk) 06:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 19:14, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: Anagrams for Swedish?[edit]

Hey, since your bot User:NadandoBot already so meritoriously updates anagrams for Finnish (thanks for that!), would it be possible to get anagrams for Swedish as well? Swedish has the same alphabet as Finnish, albeit with different letter frequencies (for example, "c" is used often in Swedish before "k", while in Finnish "c" is not used almost at all) so I'd guess adding Swedish to the supported languages wouldn't be too hard? 09:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

It's easy to add, I just need to know if there are any special rules I should be aware of regarding the orthography. DTLHS (talk) 16:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

User:NadandoBot patrolling Special:WantedCategories[edit]

Hi. I've made various changes to the request categories that your bot might want to be aware of. In particular, {{auto cat}} now supports categories of these forms:

In these categories, SOURCE, LANG and POS are arbitrary with the current restriction that POS matches the regex [a-z]+.

Benwing2 (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, it would be great if there were a way to test if a category name was usable by {{auto cat}} through some API call. DTLHS (talk) 05:33, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps just generate a call to {{auto cat}} and see if an error occurs? Also check if the category is empty, because there are several categories with old names that I emptied. Benwing2 (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
The module doesn't give any error with a bad title, it just outputs "topic cat" ({{User:DTLHS/Template:test|abcde}}). DTLHS (talk) 16:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
I tried calling {{auto cat}} on various pages. If I call it e.g. on Category:Russian long possessive adjectives (using site.expand_text(u"{{auto cat}}")), I get this (see source for exact text):
[[Category:Categories with invalid label]]<div class="noprint maintenance-box maintenance-box-red" style="background:#FFE7DD; width:90%; margin: 0.75em auto; border:1px dashed #884444; padding: 0.25em; ">
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|50px]]
! style="text-align: left;" | The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors.
| The label given to the <code>{{[[Template:poscatboiler|poscatboiler]]}}</code> template is not valid. You may have mistyped it, or it simply has not been created yet. To add a new label, please consult the documentation of the template.
Similarly if I call it on Category:Language code missing, I get this:
[[Category:topic cat]][[Category:Categories with invalid label]]<div class="noprint maintenance-box maintenance-box-red" style="background:#FFE7DD; width:90%; margin: 0.75em auto; border:1px dashed #884444; padding: 0.25em; ">
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|50px]]
! style="text-align: left;" | The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors.
| The label given to the <code>{{[[Template:topic cat|topic cat]]}}</code> template is not valid. You may have mistyped it, or it simply has not been created yet. To add a new label, please consult the documentation of the template.
Other pages may give other errors but they should be of a similar format; you could check for the presence of [[Category:Categories with invalid label]] in the output, or The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors. or similar.
Benwing2 (talk) 17:58, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Blank citation pages.[edit]

If one should not create blank citation pages what should they do if they would like to create a citation page but they have no current citations to offer?

In my view, if you create a blank citation pager others can then come and add citations as needed. —⁠This unsigned comment was added by Procode200 (talkcontribs) at 19:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC).

Others can add citations regardless of whether the citation page is created. Don't create blank pages or you will be blocked. DTLHS (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Old High German *ostar[edit]

Hello there,

I'm just curious about your entry "Reconstruction:Old High German/ostar". Where did you get the Middle High German ōster to mean the goddess?

Thank you.

That's your entry that I moved to the correct title. Why are you asking me where I got the information? DTLHS (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)


Can you make a list of entries using both {{it-noun|m}} and {{it-noun|f}}? Ultimateria (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Like this? DTLHS (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes! I guess I didn't realize we could get that exact in searches. Reading w:Help:Searching now. Ultimateria (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

wine cave[edit]

Hi, please put back wine cave. If you want to delete it put is up for discussion and I will abide by the consensus. You can leave your response on my talk page. Thank you TFSA (talk) 12:03, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Portuguese verb forms[edit]

Could you use your bot to make them? Ultimateria (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

OK. I have done some test pages. If everything seems fine you may create a page to request entries for the bot to process. DTLHS (talk) 04:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I've created User:DTLHS/portuguese bot requests with the verbs I came across in the Wikisource wordlist. Can you also add the code for redlink detection to Module:pt-conj? Ultimateria (talk) 16:44, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

auto loan[edit]

Hi, DTLHS. I would ask you to reconsider undoing your reversion of the "auto loan" page, as "auto loan" is as much a STANDARD TERM in finance as are "home loan" or "student loan". If you should doubt me at all, just try "Googling" the words "auto loan", and that should verify my assertion.

As you wish. DTLHS (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Hey, thanks man! Since the other two are covered, I thought that "auto loan" should be as well.

Spanish tracking[edit]

Hey. Just for fun, can you produce some fresh year-2020 Spanish tracking pages? None of the newspapers riddled with spellos or Catalan tho, please (El Periódico, El País). And if you wanna de-redlinkify these guys too, awesome. --Yesyesandmaybe (talk) 23:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, have fun. DTLHS (talk) 04:57, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

found object/found art[edit]

DTLHS—there is no such thing as found art—aside from art which has been found. If you are walking down the street and you find a work of art—that is found art. But that is not what our term refers to. Our term "found object" is defined by such sources as the Tate. The Tate refers to it as an "art term". The Tate defines it as follows: "A found object is a natural or man-made object, or fragment of an object, that is found (or sometimes bought) by an artist and kept because of some intrinsic interest the artist sees in it". Notice the absence of any reference to "found art". Can we find the phrase "found art" in Google Books searches? Of course. But no good quality source, such as the Tate, is going to construe a "found object" as "found art". It is an understandable error but there is no reason we should perpetuate that error. Bus stop (talk) 19:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Fine, I have described the relationship as holonymy instead. DTLHS (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
DTLHS—how is there a "relationship" of "holonymy"? Please explain. Bus stop (talk) 22:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Found art is composed of found objects. DTLHS (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Why revert? Can you please explain? You are saying "Found art is composed of found objects." What leads you to the belief that "Found art is composed of found objects"? Bus stop (talk) 15:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I really don't think any more explanation is necessary. DTLHS (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Why are you removing my attempts to engage in dialogue with you? Bus stop (talk) 16:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
DTLHS doesn't really need to explain, because you have already gotten a full explanation on Equinox's talk page and simply ignored its content. You don't seem interested in dialogue, but merely in being right, and that is a waste of our time. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:52, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Metaknowledge—you are welcome to weigh into this discussion. The topic involves the two terms—"found object" and "found art". Bus stop (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
DTLHS—from where do you derive that "Found art is composed of found objects"? I do not believe that one term is a holonym of the other. Do you think the Merriam-Webster website has an entry for "found art"? It is an online dictionary too. Its page for "found art" says that "The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary." But for "found object" there are a dozen attestations, some scholarly, and an extensive explanation of the meaning and origin of the term. The term is also a direct translation of the French term originally and closely associated with the early 20th century artist Marcel Duchamp. Really what you are doing is making Wiktionary look stupid by elevating a misnomer to a virtually equivalent term. Why would one term be considered a holonym of the other? One is the standard term. The other is at best a variation, and more than likely it can be chalked up to little more than an "error", not a "holonym". Bus stop (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
You can nominate found art for deletion if you have that much of a problem with it. Don't post on my talk page again. DTLHS (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I have no inclination to delete the found art entry. I have not said anything about the found art entry. The only entry I am questioning is the found object entry. It is conceivable that a reader could search for "found art" so I don't advocate for that entry's deletion. I've initiated this discussion. I hope you will weigh in there. Bus stop (talk) 18:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Todo/former name of[edit]


Can you run an update of Wiktionary:Todo/former name of?

I think you can just search for it: [2]. DTLHS (talk) 01:35, 15 February 2020 (UTC)


IIRC, you used to use your bot to update indices by language. Is there a reason that nobody updates those any more, and would you be interested in doing it? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:16, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I guess I could start redoing them. I'll see when I get the time. DTLHS (talk) 05:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. FWIW, there's some opposition to doing it for non-mainspace languages, but I haven't seen any such opposition for the idea of indices in general, despite their general state of disrepair. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/tracking/La Prensa/2016[edit]

Hey. User:DTLHS/tracking/La Prensa/2016 can be deleted - only blue links and crap remains --Vitoscots (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 16:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Math tags[edit]

Which is the best way to see the math tags <math> </math> of math markup?. You can find it in a lot of articles in Wikipedia and other places and are not easy to find how to used it, what they are, what are math tags and so on.--BoldLuis (talk) 16:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

A math tag is a tag for math. It doesn't need a dictionary entry. DTLHS (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Nowadays is much complicated to find and understand what <math> </math> are and mean: tags in math markup that use TeX. --BoldLuis (talk) 17:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@Boldluis: you can consult w:Help:Displaying a formula. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


Hi, DTLHS. I would ask you to reconsider undoing your reversion of the plakat page. If you should doubt me at all, just try to search the word and that should verify my assertion. --Xbypass (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

[3] DTLHS (talk) 15:43, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Eswikipedia update[edit]

Hi there. The last User:DTLHS/eswikipedia update was one year ago. Since then, many es.wikipedians have been eating away at the misspellings and the en.wiktionarians have been blueifying lots of the red links. An update would be most useful, if you wouldn't mind. --Huckerby980 (talk) 22:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


Hi in Punjabi, gāṇa can be written as both گانا (due to Urdu influence) and گاݨا (the proper way to write it in Shahmukhi Punjabi) Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 21:48, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

See my changes to the entry. DTLHS (talk) 21:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

That's fine thank you, I had planned to do something similar but wasn't sure how to implement it since I'm not too great with Wiktionary at the moment. Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 00:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hungarian layout corrections[edit]

Thank you for correcting the Hungarian layout problems. Is there a category that you are working from? How can I find Hungarian entries with incorrect layout? Panda10 (talk) 20:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

It's a program I wrote that isn't finished yet. I'll let you know once I have a final version and I'll post the list of errors on the wiki. DTLHS (talk) 20:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, that would be great. Panda10 (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Old request[edit]

Hi DTLHS. I remember requesting a Hausa search from you (nouns with no diacritics on the plural), probably years ago, and I just noticed that I never finished the associated cleanup. (There might've been another request, too, but I'm not sure.) Unfortunately, you don't archive your talk page — would you mind digging it up for me? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:47, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

[4] and User:DTLHS/hausa plurals DTLHS (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you again! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
  • And a new request: could you please convert all entries in CAT:Afar nouns to use {{aa-noun}}? Also, could you make a list if any of them end up trying to call parameters that the template doesn't support? Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
OK, list of invalid parameters:

[['amal', 'head|aa|noun|head=ámal|head2=amál|g=m|g2=f'], ['boolo', 'head|aa|noun|head=booló|g=f|diminutive|booloyta|f1alt=boolóyta'], ['labhaytu', 'head|aa|noun|head=labháytu|g=m|cat2=singulatives'], ['loynayto', 'head|aa|noun|head=loynaytó|g=f|masculine|loynaytu|f1alt=loynáytu'], ['loynaytu', 'head|aa|noun|head=loynáytu|g=m|feminine|loynayto|f1alt=loynaytó'], ['num', 'head|aa|noun|g=m|diminutive|numoyta|f1alt=numóyta'], ['olo', 'head|aa|noun|head=oló|g=f|diminutive|oloyta|f1alt=oloytá'], ['qari', 'head|aa|noun|head=qári|g=m|diminutive|qaroyta|f1alt=qaróyta']]

DTLHS (talk) 05:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I just noticed a bug in MOD:ha-headword at sau. The first noun section generates the correct possessed form, but the second one (with the grave accent) does not. I guess the logic is treating au and àu differently, but it should be acting on the non-diacriticked form (the page title) rather than the second parameter when looking for diphthongs. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:07, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Fixed? DTLHS (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Based on rai, looks fixed to me. Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:29, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Ah, actually not fixed — it broke a bunch of other entries, e.g. omo (where the possessed form now fails to show the proper diacritics). The possessed form still needs to be based on the second parameter. (The only vowel diacritics we use are macron, grave, macron+grave, and circumflex, if that makes things simpler.) —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:58, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't really know what we're talking about here. Please add some more currently failing test cases to Module:ha-headword/testcases. DTLHS (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
If you go back to the original conversation (which you linked to at the beginning of this one), you'll see all the rules for generating the possessed form. I added a couple failing testcases, but I'm not sure I did so correctly. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:35, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Unrelated, but another request for that module: could you please add a parameter f2 for a second feminine form? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Added and fixed your bug. DTLHS (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you — all looks good! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:05, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Rollback from IMIPER[edit]

IMIPER is my old account (forgot password, I mentioned that in the entry). I don't use the old account anymore bc - as mentioned before - I don't know the password.SKA-KSI (talk) 00:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


Hey. Can you make User:DTLHS/enwikisource like you did for User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? I remember you already making the list, but it was deleted for some reason, probably because it was crap. Anyway, can you generate it again? --Quotedude56 (talk) 15:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't think it's a worthwhile list to make- it's mostly just misspellings and crap, as you say. DTLHS (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


Hello, I wonder why you objected to including the Ukrainian sense of Gontar along with the Galician in wiktionary, back in April, if this was you. It seems very common in wiktionary to include multiple instances of a given phoneme around the world. Although it is pronounced "Hontar" in Ukraine, the name is pronounced Gontar in Russia and Poland, and English speakers also refer to Ukrainian Hontars as "Gontar." The majority of people surnamed Gontar also live in Ukraine (around 3500). There is ample scholarly documnentation for the view that Ukrainian Hontar/Gontar derives from hont, "shingle." There is no documentation for the following, but I theorize that it also may further derive from Proto-Indo-European ko*, "to whet, sharpen," from which we get English hone."Cdg1072 (talk) 15:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Ukrainian is spelled using the Cyrillic alphabet. All entries need to use that script. DTLHS (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit brit - sceptic[edit]

Comment I put a link there to provide a quick way to see my page, which provides an alternative but similarly defined use of the core word. ChefBear01 (talk) 01:42, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

In this case the proper place for such a link is in a "Derived terms" section. I have added it so you can see. DTLHS (talk) 01:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)