Talk:barba di due giorni

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barba di due giorni

Italian. Not lexicalized. Imetsia (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Mh... What about barba di tre giorni? There's a Wikipedia article about it. Compare French barbe de trois jours (arguably SOP, though I'm hesitant), and the various translations at designer stubble (in particular German Dreitagebart.) Not saying any of this has direct bearing on the idiomaticity of the Italian term, but there might be something here. PUC – 19:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

In German Dreitagebart is highly idiomatic, but you can also find Zweitagebart. – Jberkel 17:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Isn't that further evidence that it's SOP? When researching, I was considering that there's also barba di quattro giorni, which only further motivated me to nominate the page. (Which is common in Italian constructions; c.f. "fare due/quattro chiacchiere", "fare due/quattro passi", "due/quattro soldi"). Imetsia (talk) 00:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Maybe technically SOP but useful for translation purposes, it could be added as a translation for five o’clock shadow in fact, so keep. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Overlordnat1: We don't allow SOP translations in general. Even WT:THUB allows English SOP terms if they are translation hubs, but not individual entries for SOP translations. But even if we made an exception in this case, it would be better to have the page at barba di tre giorni instead (a term with a Wikipedia article and a French cognate entry, as PUC pointed out). Imetsia (talk) 14:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Imetsia: I suppose so. I suppose we could alternatively have the translation as ‘barba di tre giorni’ instead of listing it as a single phrase. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Isn't the key question whether it can only refer to a literal two-day beard, or whether it could reasonably describe stubble someone has had for say three or four days? Weylaway (talk) 23:03, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

RFD-kept by no consensus. Imetsia (talk (more)) 15:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)