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rfv-sense: A wargamer. Not in MW3. DCDuring TALK 19:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I certainly can't verify this myself, not having copies of the magazine, but a search online reveals this webpage that claims that the coin was termed (in this sense of the word) in the 1970s. [1] 21:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation that it exists and some idea as to the time frame. A borrowed term from early 19th century France applied to a fictional word. There is plenty of science fiction that borrows terms from 19th century and earlier in the same way (English nautical is a favorite source). We still need some signs of use in durably archived sources or print (that we can find somewhere). DCDuring TALK 21:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
cited and clarified. - [The]DaveRoss

The Wikipedia article from which this was based can be found at w:User:CrazyDreamer/Grognard with one reference for a specific meaning (which may not qualify for inclusion at the moment, but in case it does at a later time . . .). Also, I believe that the French literally means "grumbler" and was adopted for old soldiers during the Napoleonic era. --CrazyDreamer 08:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Can someone verify this meaning ? Thanks in advance. Sir Lothar (talk) 11:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Sense nos. 2 and 3 seem to be over-specified. A list of evidence that one is a grognard doesn’t constitute a definition of the term. Michael Z. 2013-09-17 15:23 z
I agree, sense#2 and #3 should be merged, but the challenge is to sense#4. SpinningSpark 22:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Senses 2+3 merged and sense 4 removed per above. - -sche (discuss) 01:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


In actual use, in the "gamer" sense, I believe it is most usually pronounced "GROG-nard". 17:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)