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larina

Definition:

1. a lady; a woman of high social class.

Gives as etymology:

From Latin lares (“lord”).

Three things are highly suspicious:

1. lares is a plural of lar, a deity associated with a household, among other things- not a singular of any word for lord
2. The very comprehensive Lewis and Short Latin dictionary at Perseus doesn't have larina.
3. The IP who created this also created created the entry for the given name Larina, with the same etymology. They have edited nothing else beyond a few related entries.

It's possible that both words are post-classical, in which case the references I have wouldn't include them whether they existed or not- so I brought this here.

I tried searching Google Books, but there are lots of mentions of the name and scannos for Latin. Searching for larinae (the expected nominative plural/genitive singular form) brought up a subfamily of gulls and another subfamily of beetles, as well as scannos for Latinae. There was no hint of anything supporting this entry among hundreds of hits I looked at, but there are lots of hits I didn't get to. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Nothing remotely likely in Niemeyer's Medieval Latin Lexicon --Catsidhe ^{(verba, facta)} 04:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Looking through some baby name sites [1] says it is Greek meaning seagull, [2] says it is Latin meaning seagull, [3] says it is a variation of Laraine or Lara which it claims is Latin but our entry says Russian, [4] says it is a Russian diminutive of Klara or Larissa, and [5] does not have Larina, but has Larin as a male name derived from Lawrence. No consistency there then except they all consistently fail to verify our entry. SpinningSpark 08:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Baby Name websites, as a rule, make "wild guesswork based on complete working ignorance" look like active scholarship. The more relevant link I can think of is the connection to Russian, either as a variant of Lara, or as evidenced in Eugene Onegin as the surname of Татьяна Ларина (Tatyana Larina). --Catsidhe ^{(verba, facta)} 08:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Gaffiot, a Latin-French dictionary of a similar stature to Lewis & Short has no entry. Mglovesfun (talk) 01:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Delete larina#Latin, I don't know about Larina. --80.114.178.7 22:22, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 20:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)