Talk:market-oriented
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RFD
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I found this terrible entry in Wiktionary:Todo/needed trans templates and have cleaned it up to a minimum level, but I still think it's Sop of market and oriented. NB I do not consider it a word; it is two words linked by a hyphen. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know, it does seem to have a specific meaning in business jargon. It's not like I can describe my car as market-oriented when I'm driving to Waitrose. Ƿidsiþ 08:45, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Can you describe your car as anything-oriented? I can't recall ever having seen that in any form.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Exactly. But in business, by contrast... Ƿidsiþ 15:04, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Can you describe your car as anything-oriented? I can't recall ever having seen that in any form.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- It obviously needs citations to determine meaning. Why is it even here? DCDuring TALK 10:30, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I find Widsith's example unusually poor by his standards, I can't say that my goldfish is market oriented, so what? Mglovesfun (talk) 15:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- It seems to me this term is used to mean "having a free-market ideology" (or something less pejorative than ideology), "favoring a free-market system", or "favoring economic freedom". I don't see a definition of market suitable for that meaning at MWOnline, let alone at [[market]]. Perhaps someone can produce one and render all of my proposed definition(s) of market-oriented not entry-worthy. DCDuring TALK 16:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- It is possible that the deign of Widsith's car was market-oriented rather than product-oriented, meaning that it was built because it was the sort of thing people woud buy, rather than, say, the sort of thing that would be economic to build. Here it means something like "market-driven" (no pun intended) and might still be sop. — Pingkudimmi 19:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I would say that kind of usage is SoP. So the question to me is: Are there uses of this that are not SoP because the sense of market that would be required is not naturally definable? DCDuring TALK 21:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Only reason I didn't speedy delete this (the version I first encountered before cleaning it up) was because it's been here since 2008. It doesn't really have a definition, not one that's of use to a human being anyway. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think part of the problem is that it's a buzz-word, included not because it means anything, but because it makes the writer appear economics-savvy. It's like solutions in corporate [PR]: if I click on a company's web address and read that XXXX provides YYYY solutions, I still don't know what kind of a company it is- manufacturing? consulting? chemical engineering? Chuck Entz (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Solvent. That's what kind of company it is, or at least aspires to be. It offers solutions, so clearly it's solvent. ;) -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 16:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think part of the problem is that it's a buzz-word, included not because it means anything, but because it makes the writer appear economics-savvy. It's like solutions in corporate [PR]: if I click on a company's web address and read that XXXX provides YYYY solutions, I still don't know what kind of a company it is- manufacturing? consulting? chemical engineering? Chuck Entz (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Only reason I didn't speedy delete this (the version I first encountered before cleaning it up) was because it's been here since 2008. It doesn't really have a definition, not one that's of use to a human being anyway. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I would say that kind of usage is SoP. So the question to me is: Are there uses of this that are not SoP because the sense of market that would be required is not naturally definable? DCDuring TALK 21:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Delete SoP. — Ungoliant (Falai) 01:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
deleted -- Liliana • 10:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)