Talk:pint

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pint

Rfv-sense: "(Hungary) 1.696 liters." Searching for "pint" + 1.696 litres turns up a book saying "The old Scots pint was about 3 imperial pints (1.696 litres)", so it's plausible that's citable; the Hungarian connection is less obvious. - -sche (discuss) 16:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

"Hungarian pint" pulls up a few useful hits:

• 1982, Gyula Káldy-Nagy, A Gyulai szandzsák 1567. és 1579. évi összeírása:

  The tenth of grape-juice was already measured in the Hungarian “pint” ( 1.69 liter ) and registered this way.

• 1987, János Rudnay, László Beliczay, A Book of Honey: Its History and Use:

  ... one Hungarian pint ( c . 1.5 litres ) of honey in the Buda marketplace.

• c. 2018, Gábor Szántai, “The Value of Money”, in Hungarian History 1366-1699‎^[1]:

  At this time, the warriors were given (at least in principle) 2 pounds (about 1 kg) of bread, 1 pound of meat, and 0.5 pints (0.84 liters) of wine for their daily rations.

• 2020 August 10, Klára Hegyi, The Ottoman Military Organization in Hungary: Fortresses, Fortress Garrisons and Finances, Walter de Gruyter GmbH & Co KG, →ISBN, page 215:

  In Temeşvar, an okka (1,282 gramms) of butter was either 10 or 20 akçes, one okka of honey 13.5, a pint (1.69 liters) of wine 162.

Weirdly, I'm struggling to find the Hungarian word this is a translation of. The Hungarian half-pint was a Halbe or itcze (p 105, 86 in the PDF, but nowhere says what two itcze were called. Smurrayinchester (talk) 07:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I've added pint#Hungarian. {{R:ErtSz}} states a pint can refer to various old units ranging from 1.4 to 1.6 litres. The corresponding article on Hungarian Wikipedia says a Hungarian pint is 1.696 litres but gives no sources. According to Magyar néprajzi lexikon, pint in Hungary was commonly equal to about 1.6 litres. As common with old units, Hungarian pint seeems to lack a precise equivalent, but it most commonly equals around 1.5 litres. Einstein2 (talk) 10:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

OK, RFV-passed. (The label currently adds this to "Hungarian English", which is questionable but probably not an RFV matter.) - -sche (discuss) 03:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)