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July 2023

Hospital Emergency Codes

(code black, code blue, etc)

• code black • code blue • code brown • code grey • code orange • code pink • code red • code silver • code white • code yellow

These codes are defined as US and Canada, however there is certainly not the degree of standardization that this implies across all of these codes. Some, code blue for example, are quite standard in the US (and Canada?), but most of the others vary in meaning from hospital to hospital or at least regionally. If these are actually universal in Canada we should probably remove the US label from many of them, and either add regional meanings or define them more generically. - TheDaveRoss 17:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

• More info at Hospital emergency codes, which makes it clear that the US does not have standards, and Canada has standards by province, many of which are shared. - TheDaveRoss 17:09, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

  @John Cross looks like you made the template, do you have some expertise to share here? - TheDaveRoss 17:10, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I agree, but this isn't something that lexico-nerds at RFV are going to do. How can we determine the meanings from actual documentation, to be placed into References sections? (Perhaps we should call Luciferwildcat back from the ninth circle of emergency healthcare... hahah...) Equinox ◑ 17:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm unsure what it would be best to do here; as you say, some so commonly have a certain consistent meaning (Citations:code blue) that it makes sense to record it, while others seem to have no set meaning (code black has four definitions so far), and yet... is that a sign we should generalize code black's definition to e.g. "A hospital code, signalling any of various situations, varying from hospital to hospital"? Or that we should keep every attestable definition? Or that it's not idiomatic at all? Colour codes are also used by e.g. police, prison guards, and others, so is having four definitions at code black like having definitions for every institution's meaning of level four (e.g. "a security level indicating a heightened threat", "a security clearance level granting access to...", "a pay grade equivalent to...", etc), i.e. something we don't/shouldn't do? - -sche (discuss) 08:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

This reminds me a bit of my idea a few years ago to create a page for category five, which can mean a very strong hurricane, but which must surely have quite an array of other meanings in other industries. And surely more so for the smaller numbers. —Soap— 21:05, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

As it has had no cites for over a year, and I did not spot any (which looked to be using any of the medical senses we listed in a lexical and idiomatic way), I have deleted code black's four definitions; I have also deleted code pink's two definitions as uncited (when I searched, I could only find the capitalized organization name Code Pink); the other codes remain to be dealt with. Deleting any which still don't have cites would allow us to sidestep the issue, though it would not really solve the issue. - -sche (discuss) 15:45, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Code white exemplifies what OP (and I) said, that most of these have no set meaning, as these books use it for disparate things. And this defines code silver as an active shooter, not merely a weapon being seen. - -sche (discuss) 15:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

I couldn't find any relevant uses of "code orange" in the sense we gave (and can find mentions of a variety of other definitions); it's been uncited for over a year, so: RFV-failed. It's the same with "code grey": of these four uses-and-mentions, one means fog, one means weather (such as a hurricane), one means "plane wreck, earthquake, bombing" and one is opaque. As OP said, most of these seem to have no set meaning. - -sche (discuss) 02:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

‘Code red’ can also refer to a woman’s period, as in this Jamaican song[1] (‘And yuh never sex a gyal when she under code red’). Overlordnat1 (talk) 04:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

That doesn't surprise me. 'Lay' meanings seem easier to attest as idiomatic / lexical than the various meanings that hospitals have officially assigned to their 'code red', 'code pink', 'level 3', 'level 4', etc. Indeed, the cites of "code red" in reference to hospitals that I can find often highlight how many different definitions it has, e.g. among EMTs vs hospitals, or among different hospitals, since some seem to use it in the way that led to the usual lay meaning, of a critical emergency. BTW, is anyone familiar with sense 2, "(Canada, US) An extrajudicial punishment."? - -sche (discuss) 08:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

October 2023

grithbreach

This entry needs some help; if we can cite it it might be better classed as historical; otherwise moved to Middle English. OED has one non-dictionary ModE quote from 1598 in Stow's A Survey of London:

The charter of King William the Conqueror, exemplified in the Tower, englished thus: "[...] Know ye that I do giue vnto God and the church of S. Paule of London, and to the rectors and seruitors of the same, in all their lands which the church hath, or shall have, within borough and without, sack and sock, thole and theam, infangthefe and grithbriche [...]"

Maybe I'm failing to correctly parse this quote but it looks to me like Stow has grithbriche as a privilege William gave the servitors, which doesn't match the sense we give. I've also foud it used in a close translation of an OE text. Any other ModE quotes? Winthrop23 (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I have put a selection of modern English quotes on the citations page. It looks to me like Stow is referring to the fines arising from enforcing this law (definition 2). Kiwima (talk) 23:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

February 2024

fee

Rfv-sense: "An additional monetary payment charged for a service or good, especially one that is minor compared to the underlying cost."

Underlined portions were added is two anonymous edits in late 2022 and seem unwarranted. I also doubt that the term fee is used for charges for goods rather than for professional services or for privileges. I have added two definitions similar to what other dictionaries have as their only senses, which fit with my experience. DCDuring (talk) 04:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

It seems okay to me: you might book a flight and have smaller additional charges added to it, like a "late booking fee" or a fee for an optional in-flight meal. Equinox ◑ 20:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

But "late booking" is certainly a privilege. Maybe "in-flight meal" too, though I would like to see examples of that usage. I'm sure we could find instances that fit quantitatively, just as I could find many instances that fit the definition of medium-sized as "of the smallest available size of a packaged good". DCDuring (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• BTW, Wiktionary's definitions for fee are featured at “fee”, in OneLook Dictionary Search., with the definition in question offered at the top of the list. I'm so proud. Not. DCDuring (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

"What was the fee for your flight?" sounds weird to me; I would expect "cost/price of". Fees are typically small/optional "bolt-ons". Maybe it's British usage. Equinox ◑ 22:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

To me too. Also, I don't pay a fee for my groceries, car, gasoline, etc. Is a flight a "privilege"? Are admission fees all small bolt-ons? License fees? Professional fees certainly aren't. I had added a few collocations for the two definitions I added. Economists call everything a price, not a fee, charge, tip, gratuity, toll. But I can't speak to what usage is outside US off the top of my head. DCDuring (talk) 23:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, the use of cost in "especially one that is minor compared to the underlying cost" goes against the grain for me. Even worse, the NP "underlying cost". "Underlying" what? As an economist I learned that costs were of production and prices were what customers paid or what sellers asked. DCDuring (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't think laypeople observe such a distinction between cost and price. Moreover, the type of privilege for which a fee applies, as it is generally understood, doesn't correspond to any sense at privilege, so we need to make the definition more specific.

I came up with these two senses which cover most of it, and which broadly match lemmings:

1. An amount charged in return for permission to do something, especially something ancillary to the purchase of a product or service.

   late fee, booking fee, entry fee, membership fee, drivers' license fee, television license fee

2. A fixed rate or price charged for (chiefly white-collar) professional services.

   lawyers' fees, tuition fee, bank fees

Also, in my mind, the term has mildly negative connotations, which ought to be mentioned somewhere in the entry. (In general we do a poor job at mentioning connotations.) This, that and the other (talk) 00:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Consider an advertisement for a business that claims "no hidden fees".

In this case, it does exactly fit this definition. 68.1.207.26 10:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree, a hidden fee such as an airline booking fee seems to fit the definition, as it is charged for an additional service (online booking) rather than a privilege or professional service. The fees the airline pays to the CRS (Computer Reservation System) would be for a professional service but the fee they charge their consumers, typically slightly greater than what they are themselves charged, doesn’t seem to count (though it does depend on exactly how we’re defining the words ‘professional’ and ‘privilege’). Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:02, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

The pejorative connotation of hidden fee is carried by the adjective.

The real question is probably whether we need three definitions, with division by who charges them. MWOnline has two, divided by whether they are a fixed amount or otherwise determined:

"a: a fixed charge

b: a sum paid or charged for a service"

We don't normally spend much time on people's evaluation of the referent of a word for good reason: it is highly context-dependent and usually subjective/political or, say, based on one's economic or other status. We consider "encyclopedic" content outside our scope. Don't we also consider advice on personal finance or what was once called home economics to be out of scope, as much as advice on driving or gardening? DCDuring (talk) 20:38, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

March 2024

pentacle

For sense 4, which describes a hexagram (or Star of David).

While there are indeed pentacles on the Wikipedia page with six-pointed stars (and one on our entry too), I dont believe that pentacle is the term for the star in the drawing, but rather the term for the drawing as a whole.

We probably should add a new sense, perhaps a subsense of the first sense, describing a handheld object used by occultists that most often features a star design, often but not always with a five- or six-pointed star. —Soap— 09:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

How would the proposed new sense differ from that of a talisman?  --Lambiam 17:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I've been too busy lately. I'd like to clarify that the new sense would be categorically a subsense of the first, whether we list it as such or not, so it's already covered. We just don't have it in detail. Anyway, I still think sense 4 may have been a mistake. —Soap— 20:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

rejerk

"Internet slang: To begin participating in a circlejerk again." Equinox ◑ 19:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ioaxxere I see you've added some. (Is Reddit actually valid for citations now? I can't keep up.) I see a mixture of transitive and intransitive (i.e. I am rejerking, vs. a topic is being rejerked) so apparently there is more than one sense. Equinox ◑ 08:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@Equinox: We do on a case by case basis. I would  Support accepting the Reddit quotations as rejerk and its abbreviation /rj are actually pretty widespread across a variety of Reddit communities. Admittedly, the term is pretty much never used outside Reddit, so I would understand if others decide to delete it. Also, thank you for adding the other sense! Ioaxxere (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ioaxxere: Still got the issue that the citations with "it was rejerked" and "rejerk that shit" are transitive uses, so the definition "begin to participate" does not fit. Equinox ◑ 15:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Kharkiv

Schrödinger

Names of asteroids in English. Einstein2 (talk) 18:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Three comments to make here:

1. It's worth reminding everyone that there is no figurative use requirement for names of asteroids, as they fall under the exemption for "minor planets" at WT:CFI#Celestial objects. We only need to find three uses, even if literal.
2. Surely these entries should be moved to Translingual. As I understand it, these are the official, worldwide names of these celestial bodies.
3. Do cites where the name is preceded by the systematic number count towards attestation of the name alone? To take one example, the entries 257261 Ovechkin and (257261) Ovechkin are not eligible for inclusion under our policy, but one could argue that any usages of these systematic names count as usages of Ovechkin, the number being a non-lexical element.

This, that and the other (talk) 04:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Cited Mr. Spock with three literal uses in books. This, that and the other (talk) 04:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

from dawn to dusk

Rfv-sense "(temporal location) At daytime." Maybe this is very common and I'm just forgetting the obvious way it's used, but at the moment I'm only calling to mind the other sense, "(duration) From sunrise to sunset." - -sche (discuss) 05:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

In contrast, I'm confused by the definition "from sunrise to sunset". Dawn, as typically defined, starts a bit before sunrise, when the sky starts to lighten. Is "from dawn to dusk" anything more than a SOP expression anyways? I would interpret it as just meaning exactly what it says.--Urszag (talk) 23:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

from dawn till dusk is common enough too. Even from dawn until dusk, if you like. Any reason why we would have the "to" version but not the others? Mihia (talk) 20:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

No objection from me to simply deleting it as SOP. Someone added "(idiomatic) All day." but AFAIK any phrase denoting this timeframe, like the others you mention, can have that meaning or implication: "They slaved away from sunup to sundown", etc. Perhaps there are interesting translations or some other reason to keep one or more of these phrases. - -sche (discuss) 23:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

There’s also the translation issue where ‘from dawn to dusk’ is (rightly) defined as ‘from sunrise to sunset’ but the translations table is headed ‘from sunset to sunrise’ Overlordnat1 (talk) 07:04, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

April 2024

exponential

Rfv-sense: Sense 2 "(mathematics) Expressed in terms of a power of e."

Is this unambiguously attestable as distinct from sense 1 "Relating to an exponent."?

See also: Wiktionary:Tea_room/2024/April#exponential. DCDuring (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Reading this definition closely, I don't think this sense can be attested separately from sense 1, or at least I haven't seen and haven't succeeded at finding any such uses. On the other hand, I think this sense is trying to get at a different use of "exponential" which we currently don't cover: probably something like "of or relating to the [natural] exponential function."

To give just one concrete example, in the study of Lie groups, there is a particular map called the "exponential map" (notated $\operatorname {exp}$); when Lee (in Introduction to Smooth Manifolds) defines the exponential map (a rather abstract definition involving no exponents), he offers the following comment on its name:

The results of the preceding section show that the exponential map of GL(n,R) (or any Lie subgroup of it) is given by $\operatorname {exp} A=e^{A}$. This, obviously, is the reason for the term exponential map.

Other examples include "exponential order" (in asymptotics; almost always defined in terms of a [natural] exponential [function]); "the exponential series" (the series expansion of the exponential function); "exponential window" (in statistics; [a function] almost always defined in terms of a [natural] exponential); etc. Of course we also have "the exponential" or "an exponential" for $e^{x}$ and $e^{ax}$ (as function), respectively.

Part of the reason these senses are muddled is that when mathematicians are dealing with the class of functions of the form $a^{bx}$ (which is rather often), it doesn't really matter what $a$ is--in fact, without any loss you can always force $a$ to be e just by scaling $b$ by $\log _{a}(e)$. Winthrop23 (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I would say that base e can be mentioned as a particular important special case of the general principle, either on the one definition line, or as a subsense. However, is present sense #1, "Relating to an exponent", supposed to be only the mathematical sense, or could it conceivably apply to any other senses of "exponent"? If the former, it should be labelled as such. In the mathematical sense, I'm not clear whether "expressed in terms of a power (of anything)" is usefully distinct from "relating to an exponent or exponentiation". This distinction, if it exists, exists irrespective of the base, I suppose? Mihia (talk) 13:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

(Replying to Winthrop as well) I think I agree with both of you. I think def 1 (Relating to an exponent) can refer to the non-math meanings of exponent too, so we'll have to look to the present defs 2 & 3 for the maths definitions. Leonhard Euler, standing on the shoulders of Newton and others, is arguably the best-ever mathematician and (like Newton and da Vinchi) a good engineer too. (We engineers also love him because Euler is homophonic with oiler.) As an example, he derived the equation $e^{i\pi }+1=0$, in which he had invented the concept of e, had invented the name for the Newtonian concept of i and popularised the use of π for its Ancient Babylonian concept (previous use by a Welshman and an Englishman had been ignored). e is a fantastically useful number for use in many proofs, since it simplifies many formulae -- which is why, along with log (or log₁₀) and exp on a math calculator, you will find ln (or log_e) and e. So yes, exponentiation is often done to base e, but certainly not always. I suggest altering #2 to read "# (mathematics) Expressed in terms of a power of a base, often 10 or e". Def #3 should then be left as is, since it makes a reasonable attempt to explain the effects of its use in non-mathematical jargon which, with the help of its example sentence, it achieves. No one ever mentions that, between exponential exponential growth 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256... and exponential decay 256, 16, 4, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1.0 [to 1 dec place] lies exponential constancy, where the exponent is 1 and so the value never alters 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2.... And those who think exponential means something is of growing severity might also be confused that exponential decay starts by "falling off a cliff" then gradually levels out, never quite crashing. --Enginear 02:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I made that change to #2, and also added a couple of examples. Mihia (talk) 23:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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• I'm gonna say now that sense 2, the mathematical sense about "expressed in terms of a power", is verified, and I have transferred the "RFV" label to sense 1, the generic "Relating to an exponent" sense, so the goal now is to find examples (mathematical or otherwise) that fit sense #1 but are not sense #2. I have also tried to work the word "exponent" into def #2, so that if #1 is removed, the entry will still prominently mention that word, so as to illuminate the connection. Mihia (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

June 2024

holiday pay

The, supposedly limited to the UK, sense "a basic wage paid to an employee while they are on holiday. It can be paid for as many weeks holiday as an employee is entitled to, although an employee can spread their complete holiday entitlement over the whole year."

At least in the Netherlands it doesn't work like that. It's just a monetary bonus, you can spend the money however you like, no need to go on vacation. (see vakantiegeld) w:en:Holiday pay doesn't describe the sense we have here either. Ping @Donnanz who created the page and wrote this sense. — Alexis Jazz (talk) 12:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: That's the way it worked when I was in employment. I retired in 2012. If you don't take any holiday entitlement, you may lose it, it depends on your employer and contract. Self-employed people don't get holiday pay. I'm not sure if anybody on a zero hours contract gets holiday pay, according to Zero-hour contract they can. Some firms close down for two or three weeks in the summer, when everyone has to take their holiday. Apparently different countries have different laws. DonnanZ (talk) 16:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Nowadays, in the UK, as far as I would understand the term, "holiday pay" generally simply means that employees continue to get paid in the normal way when they take their (statutory) holiday allowance, whenever in the year this may be, not necessarily (and in practice usually not) contiguously. (No doubt some employers try to wriggle out of paying this entitlement in various ways. There are also potentially complications around determining what is someone's "normal pay" if they are not paid a fixed wage or salary, e.g. they work varying numbers of hours.) Mihia (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

autem

"a church", "married". Failed RFV in 2013, was re-added later without cites, but maybe it's citable now? I haven't managed to find anything, searching for "an autem", "the autem" (which finds only mentions of the Latin word, saying the autem appears in one edition but not another, etc), "to autem", "in autem", "autems", "is autem" (for the "married" sense), "got autem", "get autem" (the results are all just Latin)... the one hit for "autem building" is an OCR erroneous combination of two unrelated columns, one Latin and one English... - -sche (discuss) 02:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@-sche I've added 5 cites for the "church" sense, though I'm only confident the 1610 cite is a genuine, period use. It's not very clear from the passage what "could not […] keepe his Autem" means, but there's a load of other thieves' cant there (e.g. upright man, hooker etc.), and the same book glosses "Autem" as "the Church" later on, so I'm pretty sure it's something like "could not […] go to church [without getting robbed]". The 1837 cite from Rookwood is clearly an intentional archaism/dialecticism, while the 1823 slang dictionary uses it in a usage example for a different term - go out (“to mug”). Both are passable, I guess. The other two are pretty mention-y, as they directly state what the word means, but they're probably worth keeping since they're the only mentions I could find that weren't simply lists of thieves' cant ripped from older dictionaries, or where it's used as part of a compound. The 1566 cite is also valuable as the earliest known recording of the term, too. Theknightwho (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Re-reading it with a fresh pair of eyes, I don't think the 1610 cite fits after all, as I think it's being used to mean "wife" as a clipping of autem mort (i.e. it's "could not […] keepe his Autem [wife] or doxie [girlfriend] sole unto himself"). Theknightwho (talk) 11:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah, alas, I think you're right. "Autem is over" looks alright, though, and "autem ken" is OK as long as autem ken is not a term in its own right (which it seems it is not; at least, we don't have an entry). - -sche (discuss) 23:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@-sche I think it is (Greene's treats it as another form), but I'm inclined to say it's fine, because "autem" clearly has to mean "church" since ken just means "house". How about if we add the label "chiefly in compounds"?

I suspect we probably want to add "clipping of autem mort (“wife”)" as a second sense, but I can find nothing to support it meaning "married" that isn't simply a dictionary entry claiming as much. I suspect it's probably real, as the circumstantial evidence is quite strong for this term having been both widespread and polysemous in the criminal underworld, but sadly the direct evidence simply isn't there. Theknightwho (talk) 20:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I considered suggesting this earlier, but as far as citing "church", we could perhaps also look through the various terms like autem cackle tub, autem quaver tub and autem quaver which have failed, and see if it would work to use their cites for this, iff / as long as we don't also have entries for those things. (IMO we can't use the same citation of "autem ken" to support both an entry "autem ken" and an entry "autem", but as long as we don't have autem ken, autem quaver, etc, we could plausibly use cites of those things for this... but it does mean that if we ever become able to cite those things, it pulls the rug out from under this...) - -sche (discuss) 23:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

espace

“(obsolete) Space.” According to the OED (which is the reference in the entry), only recorded in Middle English. J3133 (talk) 16:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

It seems like this spelling only just survived into Early Modern English. Various uses in EEBO, the latest of which is this 1608 text, but I'm not too sure what is going on there (the word "space" is used everywhere else, and there is a footnote which could be read as indicating that "espace" has a special meaning). Some others: [2] [3] [4] This, that and the other (talk) 04:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

beside

Rfv-sense "not relevant to". Does this exist outside of the term beside the point? Seems to be a very straightforward extension of sense 3 ("besides; in addition to"), where besides is being used to mean "other than; except for; instead of". This also explains the (now uncommon) alternative form besides the point. Theknightwho (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Marginally. I can find a few cites where people say something is "beside the subject", "beside the topic", "beside the focus" of what they're saying. - -sche (discuss) 16:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Also "beside the mark", a run-in in Century 1911, which is closer to the metaphor of aiming at a target and "beside the question".

We are deficient in contemporary citations of beside and besides, excepting those just added by -sche.

Among OneLook references only MWOnline has "not relevant to" as a definition. They also have three subsenses of sense 1 without an explicit sense: "by the side of"; "in comparison with"; and "on a par with". Their def. 3 is "besides". MW seems to have taken a revisionist stance, trying to bring the definitions closer to their conception of contemporary meaning. In contrast other OneLook dictionaries are similar to MW 1913.

Interestingly, Century 1911 has seven definitions, three marked as obsolete, none of them "not relevant to". The four:

1. "at the side of; near" (cf. our 1. "next to; at the side of")
2. "over and above; distinct from"
3. "apart from; not connected with; not according to"
4. "out of; in a state deviating from"

Definition three seems closest to our def. 2 "not relevant to", esp. "not connected with".

Our def. 3 "besides; in addition to" does not closely correspond to any of these. I don't think def. 2 at besides: "Other than; except for; instead of." works very well for beside.

Has the meaning of beside the point become more pejorative than beside the mark/question/subject/topic/focus, more reminiscent of "missing the point/mark", "off the mark"? If so, MWOnline's and our separate "not relevant to" is distinct from a definition like "not connected with". DCDuring (talk) 18:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I've added some more cites, but this sense often bleeds into sense 3 and it's possible they should simply be combined, like: "Besides; in addition to, and (sometimes) not relevant to." - -sche (discuss) 00:31, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

softstem rush

Rfv-sense softstem bulrush (Schoenoplectus tabernaemontani). The only unambiguous mentions that I found were actually referring to soft rush (Juncus effusus), a plant which is similar enough that I'm not currently comfortable trying to determine whether any of the mentions that lack a taxonomic name could be referring to the bulrush instead. One source is unambiguous in using "Softstem Rush" that way; but since it repeatedly uses "Soft-stem Bulrush" in the surrounding sentences, I'm not certain whether it was intentional. Qwertygiy (talk) 00:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I have added two cites for "soft-stem rush" referring to Scirpus validus, which is a synonym of Schoenoplectus tabernaemontani. DCDuring (talk) 22:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

July 2024

agua frescas

@Gluepix marked this as {{d|It is pluralized as aguas frescas in the vast majority of attestations; very rarely is the form agua frescas used in comparison.}}

I could find quite a lot of hits on Google, and the ngram also suggests that it is used, despite being an order of magnitude less frequent than the "correct" plural. Being "rare" doesn't mean that it isn't attested.

--kc_kennylau (talk) 23:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Jewish

Rfv-sense "Yiddish". Definitely missing a few labels at least. Ioaxxere (talk) 14:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

It's hard to find pure cites. IMO, a reference in US-based writings to Jewish newspapers refers to Yiddish newspapers, but that is a probability based on the empirical fact that there are/were hardly any Hebrew newpapers in the US and those that existed had relatively few subscribers. See Category:Jewish newspapers published in the United States on Wikipedia.Wikipedia . WP articles about these newspapers do not always state in what language they are written, but, unless stated otherwise, one might assume they were written in English. DCDuring (talk) 15:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Yiddish newspapers are Jewish newspapers, so the fact that a Yiddish newspaper is referred to as “a Jewish newspaper” does not imply that Yiddish is a sense of Jewish. Deer are animals, and here a deer is referred to with the term “animal”, but animal does not have a sense deer. A usable attestation should take a more explicit form such as “he spoke Jewish” or “written in Jewish” while the language referred to cannot be Hebrew. It is more difficult to think of usable attestation forms for the cultural sense, since, as for newspapers, Yiddish culture is also Jewish culture – but not necessarily vice versa.  --Lambiam 22:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

To be clear, the RFV'ed sense is the adjective, not a noun (so "he spoke Jewish" doesn't count towards citing it). I have in fact cited the noun sense though, fairly unambiguously, I think. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 01:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Struggling to find good cites, but this sense surely exists (I've heard it in reference to grandparents' speech), probably influenced by any number of foreign languages where "Jewish" and "Yiddish" are the same word. I don't have the patience to sort out literal English translations of foreign-language passages; for example, the passage "They speak Jewish [i.e., Yiddish] and have created their own literature. A whole slew of Hebrew and Jewish [Yiddish] papers and journals is being published." is a translation of a 1912 German essay; perhaps searching similar phraseology can help find viable attestations, like see (and many from around the first quarter of the 20th century, as since then the accepted glottonym has shifted):

1. "The Jews of London and of the United States, who, to escape the persecutions to which they are subjected in Poland and Russia, abandoned their native country, have formed associations among themselves in their new homes; they have organized societies calling themselves "Jewish-speaking groups," and as such have gained representation at the labor congresses. They speak a jargon which is a mixture of German and Hebrew, and not only employ it in their daily intercourse, but even publish their party organs in that vernacular and print them in Hebrew characters." [5]
2. "Jewish-speaking Christian missionaries invaded a thickly Jewish section in Brooklyn for the purpose of winning souls to Jesus.… In the course of a heated argument one of the missionaries grabbed a Hebrew Text Book and turning to a chapter in Isaiah exclaimed "Read what your own history says!" And to interpret into English the particular passage which he translated from Hebrew into Jewish would read something like this…" [6]
3. [7]
4. "Mr STARNES Do you speak Russian? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY No, sir; I do not speak Russian. Mr STARNES Do you speak Polish? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY Yes, sir; I speak Polish. Mr STARNES And you speak Jewish, do you? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY Yes, sir; I speak Jewish. Mr STARNES And you also speak German, do you? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY No, sir; I cannot speak German. Mr STARNES But this man spoke to you in Jewish? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY Yes, sir; he did. Mr STARNES What was his name? Mr DAVID LIMONSKY It was Heimie." [8]
5. [9] a bit prescriptive, a bit descriptive…
6. [10] memoir

Hftf (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

September 2024

sui generis

Rfv-sense as an adverb: By itself; of its own.

Given with the usage example It is nothing to worry about sui generis, but in context of the other factors it's alarming indeed., as a synonym of per se.

This sounds strange to me; I've only ever heard the legal sense, which is an adjective. Theknightwho (talk) 05:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

To me, too, it seems like an adjective. Why do law dictionaries call it a noun? DCDuring (talk) 23:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@DCDuring It can also refer to something that is sui generis in legal contexts. Theknightwho (talk) 01:30, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

No dictionary except for legal dictionaries call sui generis a noun. The legal lexicographers must have a reason for calling it a noun. What is the reason? Is it short for "a thing (law, decision, situation) that is sui generis". Or, better, where are the cites? DCDuring (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

A few cites (of the noun) for you:

• 2013 June 29, Bimal K. Matilal, A. Chakrabarti, Knowing from Words: Western and Indian Philosophical Analysis of Understanding and Testimony, Springer Science & Business Media, →ISBN, page 100:

  It is word-generated knowledge or knowledge by testimony ( K. T. for short ) – a sui generis.

• 2020 May 21, Michael R Licona, The Resurrection of Jesus: A New Historiographical Approach, Inter-Varsity Press, →ISBN:

  Prior to the 1990s a large segment of New Testament scholarship maintained that the Gospels represent a sui generis, that is, a genre unique to them. This sui generis was viewed as a type of mythology.

• 2021 October 5, Sze Ping-fat, Carrier's Liability under the Hague, Hague-Visby and Hamburg Rules, BRILL, →ISBN, page 124:

  Insofar as none of these approaches has ever been formally overruled by the highest Court of the land, the law of deviation remains an area of controversy and is practically treated as a sui generis - that is, as a law quite distinct from the general law of contract.

These look like adverbial cites:

• 2003, Canada. Parliament. Senate. Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, Délibérations Du Comité Sénatorial Permanent Des Affaires Sociales, Des Sciences Et de la Technologie:

  They came up with a program that the federal Minister of Agriculture and his provincial colleagues agreed was a good and appropriate approach to handling that particular problem. They did it sui generis.

• 2014 August 7, Jonas Ebbesson, Marie Jacobsson, Mark Adam Klamberg, David Langlet, Pål Wrange, International Law and Changing Perceptions of Security: Liber Amicorum Said Mahmoudi, Hotei Publishing, →ISBN, page 5:

  Another possibility is that the council acted sui generis and expressed a one-off view on the facts with no precedential significance.

• 2015 December 31, Llewellyn Howes, Judging Q and saving Jesus - Q’s contribution to the wisdom-apocalypticism debate in historical Jesus studies., AOSIS, →ISBN, page 62:

  The refutation of Kleinliteratur conceptions enabled Kloppenborg to do away with the idea that Q was created sui generis, which, in turn, enabled him to compare Q with other ancient literature (Kirk 1998:35–36, 64).

Smurrayinchester (talk) 12:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. DCDuring (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Added to defs. in entry. DCDuring (talk) 14:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@DCDuring The reason it's used as a noun in legal contexts is because it's a convenient shorthand for "something that is sui generis". Outside of law, it's not a term that people use very often. Theknightwho (talk) 02:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@Smurrayinchester There is also a plural form, sui genera ([11]), though it mostly seems to see use as a declined adjective. Theknightwho (talk) 02:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

dymaxion

Adjective: "Able to use technology to maximize the use of resources." I'm sure Buckminster Fuller used it, but did anyone else?

We also have Dymaxion, somewhat gauchely defined as "A structure or device that is dymaxion in nature" - a better def would be "(attributive) A name applied by Buckminster Fuller to his inventions.", but perhaps we can do better than that. This, that and the other (talk) 05:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

RHU (via InfoPlease} has: "noting or pertaining to R. Buckminster Fuller's concept of the use of technology and resources to maximum advantage, with minimal expenditure of energy and material."

It still needs cites, though they should be findable in discussions of Fuller's works. DCDuring (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

The two problems with the dymaxion entry are the adjective POS and the lowercase "d". I can find occasional references to some of Fuller's inventions spelled with a lowercase "d" (dymaxion house, dymaxion car) but these uses only support dymaxion as an alternative case form of Dymaxion and nothing further. This, that and the other (talk) 22:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

gegagedigedagedago

Needs to pass the 3 independent uses criteria of WT:CFI. AG202 (talk) 21:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

And the alt form gegagedigedagedaoh. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BDC1:47AD:61BB:811D 18:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2024

waffle hole

I can't really find uses that are not referencing the line from Shrek (which doesn't really count as an attestation for an "anus" sense). Einstein2 (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

• I've added one.[12] TDHoward (talk) 20:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
• failed after a year --~2025-33291-61 (talk) 10:53, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

  Undoing IP closure. This has three citations; a logged-in user should investigate whether they are valid and sufficiently independent. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 03:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

subconscious

Rfv-sense "partly conscious," distinct from "not accessible to the conscious mind." The latter sense was labeled "dated." What do people think of that? Do you agree with what wikipedia has to say about the usage of subconscious and unconscious (w:subconscious)? Should that sense maybe be split into a technical usage and a colloquial usage? —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 21:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

‘Dated’ seems a strange tag to me. Perhaps professional psychobabblers don’t use the word ‘subconscious’ any longer but the general public do. I’ve also never personally used or encountered ‘subconscious’ as, essentially, a synonym for semiconscious. I’ve made a few adjustments to reflect this, we might also consider merging the translation table for ‘partially conscious’ at subconscious and the one at semiconscious. —Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 10:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

This sense isn't anything to do with the psychological subconscious. It means "semiconscious", like a dazed patient. I've added one citation ("subconscious patient"); you should easily find more from what I've just explained. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BDA5:68B2:EEE:ABAE 11:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

wurbagool

This does appear to exist (although very rare). However, I think we have the wrong continent and probably the wrong taxonomic name too. This, that and the other (talk) 08:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Ping our taxoboffins @Chuck Entz, DCDuring This, that and the other (talk) 09:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

The RfV question remains, but the entry was wrong about the links and the continent. If it fails RfV, the content should be moved to one of the attestable vernacular names. DCDuring (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

this Google Books search shows attestability. It seems dated or even obsolete. It looks to be derived, possibly, from Malayalam. DCDuring (talk) 13:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

monster

Verb sense: "(informal, British, transitive, intransitive) To punish, reprimand or intimidate. "Get the hell out of here!" Dante monstered when Santa approached the high school carolers." — Added by an American. I've never heard of it in British usage. The usage example does not look British either ("Santa" would be Father Christmas; "carolers" would have two Ls). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:580C:F1AF:B902:5AA6 10:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

We might need help from the creator here, @Flame, not lame. They credited "Oxford Languages" - not sure exactly what resource this refers to. OED has two transitive senses marked "originally Australian", one which essentially means "to harass", and the other which roughly corresponds to this sense, although the meaning is closer to "demonise". This, that and the other (talk) 11:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I searched "monster meaning" on Google when I was 15 and it showed the dictionary. As a verb, it defined monster as an informal British verb for criticize or reprimand. The example sentence stated, "Mother would monster me for getting home late" as in indicator monster is a transitive verb. The bottom of the default dictionary on Google states Oxford Languages is their source. Flame, not lame 💔 (Don't talk to me.) 11:13, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I am American, so I am not perfect at British vocabulary. Flame, not lame 💔 (Don't talk to me.) 11:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

@Flame, not lame thanks for that, that's very helpful. Needless to say, Oxford is a reputable lexicography provider, but my cursory searches are really not turning up any evidence for this sense. Maybe Kiwima will be able to find something. This, that and the other (talk) 11:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

@This, that and the other Is this not just the same as sense 3 ("to harass")? As a Brit, I have never heard this. Theknightwho (talk) 00:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I’ve not come across this either but ‘monster’, especially in the phrase ‘monster it’ or ‘monster them’ can be easily found online used by British and Australian authors to mean ‘do well at’, ‘do well against’, ‘defeat’ or ‘succeed in’. I'm also seeing 'monster him/her' meaning 'defeat him/her', 'monster' meaning 'devour/demolish' in culinary contexts, also 'to turn a truck into a monster truck', 'to drive a monster truck over' and 'to strike with monstrous force' or 'move forcefully'. There are interesting results if you search for 'monster one's way' and 'monster it over'. Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

annoy

Rfv-sense "(intransitive) to be troublesome." I find an intransitive sense in some dictionaries but I can't actually think of a true intransitive use. I think the adjective annoying doesn't count. Nor do the contexts in which you can use almost any transitive verb with an implied object, like "Don't annoy!" ("Don't disturb!") or "Mosquitos are designed to annoy." ("Some people just love to humiliate.") Rather, is it actually possible to say something like "The dog's howling annoyed all night long"? —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 12:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

manclaiming

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 20:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

has cites on Twitter. it would pass if we say in a vote that it does. probably hasnt caught on much outside social media —Soap— 21:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Possibly coined by the writers of a blog called Shakesville (one writer, Melissa McEwan, writes "Today in Manclaiming" as if it's already an established term). But since it's so simialr to mansplaining it may have been coined more than once, and McEwan's uses of it are about fashion and don't seem so angry. —Soap— 21:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

November 2024

trifling

Rfv-sense: (African-American Vernacular) Of suspicious character, typically secretive or deceitful; shady.

No. I disagree. It generally means lazy / work averse. — This unsigned comment was added by 2607:FB90:8DA5:849E:AC39:C1B7:6911:ED6 (talk) at 00:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC).

Your def is a better fit for the given quote. Needs to be confirmed with further evidence. This, that and the other (talk) 10:18, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I first encountered this online in the delightful phrase "trifling niggah". I was interested to encounter it again recently in Julius Lester's (Afro-sympathetic) 1980s or '90s retellings of the Brer Rabbit stories. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1DDE:A582:20BE:E3BB 00:28, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

I agree the current definition is wrong. I am not sure whether the actual meaning of the term, as used in the way we are discussing, is distinguishable from the other two senses, "of little importance" and "idle, frivolous". - -sche (discuss) 14:54, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

A work-averse person can be described as "idle" but not "frivolous", so I think it is a distinct sense. In any event someone has edited the entry, and even though the new defs need some tidying, I think it is an improvement. This, that and the other (talk) 06:26, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

The new sense 4 seems to be in the right vein; I am unsure of the redefined sense 3; the quotation (left under it) seems more applicable to sense 4 than 3. - -sche (discuss) 18:42, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

After various edits, the RFVed sense was redefined, and another sense was added, so the senses are now:

1. Trivial, or of little importance.
2. Idle or frivolous.
3. (Can we verify(+) this sense?) (African-American Vernacular) Action seen as nasty and/or dirty. Then she said she doesn’t take showers, that’s just trifling. [...] I told her to take her trifling ass down to Burger King and get herself a job flipping burgers […]
4. (Can we verify(+) this sense?) (African-American Vernacular) Good-for-nothing, scrub, lazy. You trifling good for nothin’ type of brother.

(For my opinions on this, see above.) - -sche (discuss) 18:42, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

As idle has two common senses with different meanings, it is not the best of definiens. DCDuring (talk) 20:05, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree, and have tentatively removed it. I have also moved the quotation I referred to above. I suspect the current sense 4 is roughly accurate, whereas even after its rewording (from the wording initially RFVed to the wording there now, quoted in my comment above) I am not calling examples to mind. - -sche (discuss) 01:07, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I've tweaked 4 a little more, adding "shady", which explains some of the cites that aren't as well explained as "lazy"; this NPR piece says some more about its use especially "for untrustworthy members of the opposite sex"; it says "the usage of triflin' to mean "cheating" or "false" [...] according to the Oxford English Dictionary, go[es] back at least as far as Le Morte d'Arthur"; Etymonline says "c. 1400, 'cheating, feigning;' 1530s, 'lacking depth or earnestness'". I think 4 is cited. 3 is not and it is unclear to me if it exists as something separate from the last part of sense 4 (scrub, low, 'mean'). - -sche (discuss) 08:10, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

spook

Rfv-sense A hobgoblin. Not in the OED.

I have a feeling this is intended to refer to hobgoblin (“a source of dread, fear or apprehension; a bugbear”), but that isn't what springs to mind when I read "hobgoblin" in isolation, as it's a figurative use of the term, so if that is the case then this definition needs improvement. However, if it truly is intended to refer to hobgoblin (“small, ugly goblin that makes trouble for humans”) then it definitely needs some citations. Theknightwho (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The reference to a hobgoblin is present in Webster Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged originally published in 1993 and reprinted by Könemann (page 2204).-- Carnby (talk) 22:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 1993, p. 2204.

Bartlett's Dictionary of Americanisms (1859), "Spook. (Dutch). A ghost; hobgoblin. A term much used in New York." Webster's New International Dictionary (1911) gives: "A spirit; ghost; apparition; specter; hobgoblin." In these two, the words are treated as synonymous; for some reason the Wiktionary entry separated "hobgoblin" into its own sense when it was created back in 2005. OED (1919) gives fewer synonyms: "A spectre, apparition, ghost."

I haven't added any examples yet because I'm not sure whether "hobgoblin" should be folded back into the main sense. It's also a bit difficult to figure out how to tell whether "spook" describes a hobgoblin other than by searching for the two together. But I find: The Optical Journal, vol. XI, No. 6, "Tales of an Optician: In the Form of a Man" (1903): "Nevertheless, it was such a relief to find he was not a ghost, hobgoblin, spook, spirit, apparition, or some such airy substance..." Arthur Kent Chignell, An Outpost in Papua (1911), "Peter, in the afternoon, when he came to me with a cut finger, explained that it was all the fault of a Dau (devil, ghost, spirit, spook, hobgoblin, what-you-please)." Tom Stoppard, in "Shipwreck" (2002) has Turgenev playing with Karl Marx' suggestion of the phrase "the ghost of Communism" by replacing "ghost" with "phantom", "spook", "spectre", "spirit", and finally settling on "hobgoblin". This is of course too early to have been influenced by Wiktionary, so it appears to confirm that all of these words can be considered synonymous, even though for many of us "hobgoblin" instead calls to mind an imp, rather than a ghost.

There are likely other and perhaps better examples; I came up with these three in the first three pages of Google Books results. But I'll wait to add them until I have an idea whether to recombine "hobgoblin" with the first sense, since we may not need so many examples for each synonym. P Aculeius (talk) 00:06, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I think the underlying issue is whether hobgoblin should be used as a definiens in this entry (or possibly any entry). It was apparently a synonym in the US of one sense of spook. Maybe it still is a synonym of one current definition. An even deeper issue is whether we should use as definiens any term that currently has multiple common definitions. DCDuring (talk) 00:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure that gets us anywhere; not only is it a possible meaning of "spook" explicitly given in numerous sources (if we include the many dictionaries that say it is, as well as those that seem to use it as such), but all of the other terms seem to be defined by reference to each other: "ghost", "spirit", "spectre", "spook", "apparition", "phantom"—and nearly all of them have multiple common definitions. And I think that no matter what verbal contortions we resort to, any particularly useful definition of "spook" is going to depend on other words that have different possible interpretations. The fact that the best dictionaries all do so would seem to make this inevitable. P Aculeius (talk) 02:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Where it could get us is a differently worded definition or, better, placement as one of the synonyms of the first definition of spook.

At least some dictionaries don't define their words with synonym clouds: I think Webster 1913 does so the most. We should place hobgoblin where various thesauruses (not ours, however) place it: as a synonym of ghost, spook, and other members of the cloud. It could be slipped right in under def. 1 of spook. DCDuring (talk) 04:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

car mileage

Rfv-sense: The amount paid by one road for the use of cars of another road. Kiwima (talk) 20:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

• Yeah, I read that and was like, WTF? Whalespotcha (talk) 21:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  I think the rail and auto labels are reversed. Railroads in the US, pay each other for the use of their railcars. Something similar must happen among the railroads of the EU and wherever there are interconnected systems. DCDuring (talk) 21:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  Or both labels should be for rail transport. DCDuring (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Mysteryroom strikes again... yes, they are clearly rail cars and rail roads. I've fixed the definition. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F57D:AA4A:497:5681 15:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

prolegalism

Seeking quotes, given that a definition was requested. I found two not very enlightening quotes, and nothing else. Kiwima (talk) 04:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

According to my psychic powers, the second one is a scanno involving a repeated line:

professional and industrial class founded upon wealth and

legalism. That again is yielding to the rule of [the] pro-

legalism. That again is yielding to the rule of the pro-

letariat, founded upon work and association.

The non-busted text can be found at [13], in which no prolegalism is to be found. This, that and the other (talk) 04:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

It looks like the busted cite was removed and some more added, so that there are now 4. The fourth one is clearly pro- +‎ legalism (sense 1) - it's even hyphenated in the source text. The capitalisation of cite 2 also suggests the same thing. Cites 1 and 3 need more context to be comprehensible. This, that and the other (talk) 08:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

preverb, prenoun

Those words are real grammatical terms, but "preverb" is used for a large variety of languages, much more than the definitions in the articles, and "prenoun" does not appear to be specific to Algonquin languages. 87.88.150.15 22:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

December 2024

game is game

(These were tagged above, see #i got 2 phones, later Talk:i got 2 phones; I'm giving them their own headers to make discussion easier and so they get archived to the relevant talk pages.)

This does seem to exist as now (re)defined online, like this one. But there may be another, even broader meaning: other uses I can find online seem to be not sex-related but more general statements that if someone is 'cool' (woke, based, etc) they're 'cool' even if it's unexpected/weird/etc, like this. A third sense seems to be (video-)game-related, something like "all's fair in (video) games", e.g. [14]. And a fourth sense seems to be "this game is a game [so I'll play it]", like a, b or c. - -sche (discuss) 20:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

pookie bear

(These were tagged, see #i got 2 phones, later Talk:i got 2 phones; I'm giving them their own headers to make discussion easier and so they get archived to the relevant talk pages.)

This one is real, even in books (google books:"pookie bear"); I threw a few cites onto Citations:pookie bear, so this is cited. It could be SOP because pookie by itself means this (and many uses of "pookie bear" also use "pookie" by itself or in other constructions), but that'd be an RFD issue. - -sche (discuss) 20:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

‘Pookie’ was discussed in the Etymology Scriptorium here[[[Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium/2024/October#Pookie]]] Overlordnat1 (talk) 20:25, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

• RFV-passed. Ultimateria (talk) 18:53, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

boy mom

(These were tagged, see #i got 2 phones, later Talk:i got 2 phones; I'm giving them their own headers to make discussion easier and so they get archived to the relevant talk pages.)

The phrase itself, at least with the core meaning (a mom of a boy), is citeable, but I wonder... The 'extended' sense refers to the same people (moms of boys) as the 'core' sense, it just talks about how that those people are culturally (correctly or incorrectly) known for certain things, stereotyped certain ways. Does that actually amount to a different definition? Is it lexical at all? It's easy to find sentences equivalent to the given usex but with other words, for other groups that have negative or position reputations, e.g. "paparazzi cunts are a different breed" hounding Sharon Osbourne, Ukrainian "farmers are a different breed" farming even as Russian bombs fall. Maybe it would help to find cites which say that some mother has a male kid but is not a "boy mom" (i.e. doesn't have the attributes highlighted by the extended sense)...? (The only hit for "she's not a boy mom" I spotted on Bluesky is this.) - -sche (discuss) 20:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

I.e., it does not seem to exist as an idiomatic term, only a SOP. - -sche (discuss) 02:33, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Here's an example from someone on Twitter describing someone from reality television as "not a boy mom" and that she "just happens to have a son" and a Threads post from a woman saying something similar about herself. Some people in the replies of both posts are pushing back against this usage of the term, and she gave an explanation for her definition of the term. Ukulelevillain (talk) 21:17, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

club penguin

(These were tagged; I'm giving them their own headers to make discussion easier and so they get archived to the relevant talk pages.)

• I found nothing. But didn't look too hard, due to the nature of the beast. Vealhurl (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

mint choco

Never heard of it. No GBooks hits for "mint choco is" or "love mint choco". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F9AC:CC62:6541:2A8E 17:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

We have choco as a shortened form of "chocolate". Most probably "mint choco" has been used or said somewhere. However, just because "choco" is short for "chocolate", it doesn't IMO mean that we need to separately include the "choco" version of all phrases involving "chocolate". By the way, isn't mint chocolate SoP anyway? Mihia (talk) 10:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I have seen it before. It's mainly used for Korean sweets and things like bubble tea. There's even mint choco soju. Ukulelevillain (talk) 04:15, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

pretense

1. An act of pretending; a false or simulated show or appearance; a false or hypocritical assertion or representation.

   He visited the king under the pretense of friendliness.

   "Lady Little", the title that she used, was just a pretense.

2. Affectation or ostentation of manner.

   She was a plain-speaking woman without a hint of pretense.

3. Intention or purpose not real but professed.

   with only a pretense of accuracy

4. An unsupported claim made or implied.
   • 1899 September – 1900 July, Joseph Conrad, chapter II, in Lord Jim: A Tale, Edinburgh; London: William Blackwood and Sons, published 1900, →OCLC, page 9:

     He was gentlemanly, steady, tractable, with a thorough knowledge of his duties; and in time, when yet very young, he became chief mate of a fine ship, without ever having been tested by those events of the sea that show in the light of day the inner worth of a man, the edge of his temper, and the fibre of his stuff; that reveal the quality of his resistance and the secret truth of his pretences, not only to others but also to himself.

5. An insincere attempt to reach a specific condition or quality.

Possibly I'm just having a mental blank about this word, but I am struggling to see as many distinct senses as we (and in some cases even more so) other dictionaries list for it. Even sense 2, which I added myself, is arguably just a "false show or appearance". But what about senses 3, 4 and 5? Can we come up with examples that do not actually on inspection simply mean "a false show or appearance", per sense 1? I don't see how the existing examples achieve this. Mihia (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Def. 2 is distinct by reason of uncountability.

I'd expect some definitions to be of neutral phenomena and others of negative ones, though an "especially" or "usually" might make one def. cover both.

MWOnline has four definitions (of 7) that have one-word synonyms: pretentiousness, pretext, make-believe/fiction, simulation. These are not synonyms of each other.

Google Ngrams has the following nine "adjectives" as the most common ones directly preceding pretense: false (nearly twice as common as the other eight combined), mere, such, little, other, fraudulent, hypocritical, slightest, only. The plural adds various, specious, frivolous, plausible.

I'm not sure whether this means that pretense is intrinsically neutral and needs a negative adjective or that pretense is usually used in cases where the negativity warrants extra emphasis. DCDuring (talk) 20:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

"false pretence", also "false pretences", is very much a set phrase, and I would expect it to be conspicuously common. Nowadays the word "false" seems strictly unnecessary (I can't think of any modern neutral or positive uses), but apparently this phrase dates back hundreds of years, so I suppose it is possible that at one time there could be a "true pretence", or perhaps it was always strictly redundant and just used to reinforce falseness. I really don't know. There is certainly, as I alluded to in my post, no shortage at all of multiple different definitions of this word in different places, but what I would like to see at Wiktionary are examples that actually illustrate the alleged differences between our senses in a clear way, so that definitions of one sense can't just as well be substituted into examples of another. And, in particular, modern examples that on inspection are not essentially "false or simulated show or appearance". This is what I am struggling to come up with. Thanks for reminding of the countability issue. Sense 1 is (or should be) actually both countable and uncountable. I'll address that. Mihia (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I am having difficulty separating senses 3, 4, and 5 from sense 1; they all seem to be slight variations of it. P Aculeius (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

textbook fear

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 10:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

• Send to RfD. This appears to be nothing more than shorthand for "a textbook case of" fear, i.e. "fear in its basic definition", which seems like the sum of its parts. Nothing in the entry suggests that it is in any way idiomatic, and I do not think there is anything to search for. It might make sense as a gloss of "bibliophobia", but that does not seem to be how it is defined. P Aculeius (talk) 12:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

• As far as I can understand it, the distinguishing feature of this sense of "textbook fear" is supposed to be that you hear or read about something being difficult/dangerous/frightening and fear it only for that reason. So, for example, if you often encounter spiders in your house, and you are terrified of them, you might have a "textbook fear" in the sense that it is a "classic" fear described in textbooks, but it wouldn't be "textbook fear" in our sense because you originated it yourself. Whether this is a clear and valid distinction, and, if so, whether it is a property of the word "textbook" or solely of "textbook fear", I do not know. (By the way, our definition seems poorly worded. The phrase structure seems not to be totally coherent.) Mihia (talk) 13:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I cleaned up the formatting, but I'm very skeptical. I look forward to any citations that show support for any non-SoP definition. This smells to me like someone misinterpreting standard attributive use of textbook. If enough people misinterpret textbook as it seems from the RfVed definition, there should eventually be citations that support a further extension of the meaning of textbook. I wouldn't think that fear would be the only noun modified by such an extended sense of textbook, so, even if this collocation is cited, we should see whether there are other collocations that show the same extended meaning of textbook.

At textbook#Adjective we have: "Having the typical characteristics of some class of phenomenon, so that it might be included as an example in a textbook.". DCDuring (talk) 14:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

On the subject of textbook#Adjective, I added an example there, "Well done everyone, the tree fell exactly where we planned. That was textbook", partly to try to bolster the case that this is truly an adjective (which is ambiguous in many of the existing quotations), but then it struck me that our existing definition, that you quoted, does not exactly capture this kind of usage. The "tree felling" example does not describe something with "typical characteristics" so much as something "done exactly correctly, in the way that a textbook might describe". Do you think we are missing a sense? Or is it all part of the same sense? Mihia (talk) 15:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

The predicate-use example helps. BTW, some other dictionaries use classic as a synonym. Maybe we could broaden the current definition, perhaps "typical or ideal"? DCDuring (talk) 15:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Also, ", so that it might be included as an example in a textbook." does not really define the term, but rather explains the (obvious?) sense development. DCDuring (talk) 16:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

In the end I found it difficult to broaden the definition in a way that appealed to me, so I made a separate definition. Anyone who prefers to merge them, please go ahead. Mihia (talk) 18:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I can't distinguish senses 2 and 3 under "textbook", as they seem to be describing exactly the same thing. That said, I haven't tried to merge them, so I can't really comment on how difficult it is. But to return to "textbook fear", I fear we still haven't escaped the textbook use of "textbook" as an adjective. It still seems to be a textbook example of a phrase that means nothing more than the sum of its parts. P Aculeius (talk) 20:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Returning to the RFV, I think it might be difficult to find examples that we can be certain are meant in this alleged special sense rather than the general "textbook" sense. I had a quick trawl of Google results, and found some that could be read as our sense, but all of them could be read in the "normal" sense too. Perhaps someone else might have more luck. Mihia (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  Let's just give it its 30 days here. We can then RfD it and have our debates there, if necessary. DCDuring (talk) 21:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• I added a new sense at textbook:

• (figuratively) Learned from, or as if learned from, a textbook, as opposed to personal discovery or experience.

He has a textbook understanding of company law but no practical experience of litigation.

Perhaps even if "textbook fear" does exist in the RFV'd sense, this definition might just about cover it? (I think there is a slight question about whether all the senses at textbook#Adjective are truly adjectives, but that's a different discussion.) Mihia (talk) 21:38, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

here

1. This place; this location.

   Here is where I met my spouse twelve years ago.

   An Alzheimer patient's here may in his mind be anywhere he called home in the time he presently re-lives.

2. (figuratively) This point or stage, visualised as a location.

   I'd like to continue my story, but here is where I must stop.

   I've done as much as I can; you'll have to take it from here.

3. (abstract) This time, the present situation. (Can we add an example for this sense?)

RFV sense 3 as distinct from sense 2. It already had a request for examples; I can't think of any. Mihia (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps the countable use seen at e.g. here? That may be what was meant by the (abstract) label. This, that and the other (talk) 07:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

throw

Rfv-sense: "The flight of a thrown object" as distinct from "The distance travelled by something thrown" and various other senses in the entry. It is not in OED, Century or Webster. It was added in 2003 by Dvortygirl with the usex "a fast throw", which does not seem to support the sense as defined. This, that and the other (talk) 11:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

A throw itself seems more like sense 1, the act of throwing. The "distance" sense gives as an example the expression, "a stone's throw", which really does relate to distance. I'm not sure whether the sense here is or isn't an example of sense 1, since "a quarterback's throw" seems to be the same thing, but at the same time in the example here, "a fast throw" seems to refer to a thing with qualities besides merely the act of throwing: the path of a thrown object, or other qualities associated with the traveling object. Perhaps some rewording is in order. P Aculeius (talk) 00:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree that "a fast throw" is not quite "a fast act of throwing", and also there are examples such as "his throw reached the boundary", where it is again not really the act that reaches the boundary. It could be quite hair-splitting to try to reflect this in the definitions, perhaps. On another point, I question whether the single idiom "a stone's throw" justifies a whole sense "The distance travelled by something thrown". I'm not even totally convinced that "throw" in itself means a distance even in that expression. Or are there other examples? Mihia (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I think you're right, it's the idiom that confers the meaning of 'distance'. It's not really a meaning of the word 'throw'. P Aculeius (talk) 22:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

There are cutesy variations, such as "a pebble's throw" when referring to proximity to a beach, but I think this kind of thing hardly counts as different. Mihia (talk) 22:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

There are also expressions relating to the time a throw takes and the quantity of stuff thrown rather than the speed or distance of the throw and I’m not sure how we should best cover these instances either. For example ‘one second throw’ ([15] and [16]), ‘one second throw’([17] and [18]) and ‘gram throw’ in relation to coffee machines[19] and hot chocolate machines[20]. Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:16, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

What sense is used when talking about the 'throw speed' ([21],[22],[23]...) of a 'switch machine' used in model railways? --Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

morpho-syntax

Rfv-sense "grammar". is this really a separate sense from sense 1? the morphosyntax of a language naturally is (part of) the grammar of that language, and i doubt the word "morphosyntax" is ever used to include other aspects of a grammar e.g. phonology. also see the rfc for this word. ragweed theater _{talk, user} 14:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ragweed-theater it's worth noting that this sense originally read "More formal term for grammar in a linguistic sense". I guess what they meant was, what the lay-person calls the "grammar" of a language is called its "morphosyntax" by linguists. How do we express this? Perhaps using {{synonyms}} with a qualifier or {{near-synonyms}} on sense 1? This, that and the other (talk) 00:07, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

thank you for the cleanup! I've added grammar as a near-synonym to morphosyntax, with a qualifier directing the reader to the usage note there, and added a usage note for grammar. hopefully this is sufficient, and the sense in morpho-syntax can be removed ragweed theater _{talk, user} 16:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

again

4.2. I ask again, I say again; used in repeating a question or statement.

Again, I'm not criticizing, I just want to understand.

4.3. Here too, here also, in this case as well; used in applying a previously made point to a new instance; sometimes preceded by "here".

Approach B is better than approach A in many respects, but again, there are difficulties in implementing it.

9. Moreover; besides; further.

1835, John Herschel, A Treatise on Astronomy:

Again, it is of great consequence to avoid, etc.

RFV sense 9 as distinct from 4.2 and 4.3. As far as I can tell, the sole present example (Herschel) is either 4.2 or 4.3 (not certain which; full context at [24]). Mihia (talk) 10:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I can't really say the first two are distinct, but I concur that the third one is not a new meaning. P Aculeius (talk) 22:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

yield (2)

• (finance) Profit earned from an investment; return on investment.
• (law) The current return as a percentage of the price of a stock or bond.

2013 July 6, “The rise of smart beta”, in The Economist, volume 408, number 8843, page 68:

Investors face a quandary. Cash offers a return of virtually zero in many developed countries; government-bond yields may have risen in recent weeks but they are still unattractive. Equities have suffered two big bear markets since 2000 and are wobbling again. It is hardly surprising that pension funds, insurers and endowments are searching for new sources of return.

RFV "law" sense. Is there really such a sense distinct from the finance sense? The existing example does not appear to demonstrate so. Mihia (talk) 20:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

The "law" label is implausible to me.

Yield is sometimes an amount, sometimes an annualized rate (as % of either face or market value) in finance, easily cited if necessary (I would assert widespread use.). It is generally a 'yield' of money on money. As an amount it could easily be combined with definitions that applied to timber, crops, fish, effort, labor, etc. DCDuring (talk) 20:24, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

formula

Rfv-sense "(especially religion) A formal statement of doctrine". if i'm reading the context right, the "formulae" in the one quote we have now doesn't seem to refer to "statements of doctrine", but the set phrases and/or structural elements (the specific ways one should say the prayers, etc.) in the rituals. it would then correspond to the primary sense listed in the OED: "A set form of words in which something is defined, stated, or declared, or which is prescribed by authority or custom to be used on some ceremonial occasion"-- which is a sense we happen not to have at the moment. ragweed theater _{talk, user} 20:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I would simply rewrite this sense along the lines in OED—and reorder the senses a bit accordingly. P Aculeius (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

January 2025

airgasm

RFV of all senses

The free-fall one is potentially citeable (I found two, plus a mention), the skydiving sex one is obvious vandalism, and the facemask one seems to be a joke during the pandemic that was mentioned but never actually used as a word. Smurrayinchester (talk) 23:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

• Cited. ~2026-73884-3 (talk) 04:24, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

debris

Sense 3, "The ruins of a broken-down structure." Must be distinct from main sense 1, "Rubble, wreckage, scattered remains of something destroyed." Other dictionaries (Chambers, Merriam) do not seem to distinguish, and in my experience debris is small pieces, never large components like castle ruins. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E1CB:650D:44C7:C96 17:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

clap someone's cheeks

Not mine. Father of minus 2 (talk) 16:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

There is also (already) clap cheeks, which is mine.... Leasnam (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

If not a joke listing (with "Not mine" meaning "don't clap WF's cheeks" and not "this entry isn't by me"), note that we have clap cheeks already. The only thing I really see missing from the latter are 2 more cites and a figurative sense by extension, meaning "to beat someone handily (e.g. at a game)". Hftf (talk) 05:13, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

The definitions listed seem incorrect. I would simply redirect this to clap cheeks. (Added by the same user as Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones.) - -sche (discuss) 01:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

benthoses

Of the attestations I could find for this supposed plural form of benthos (which I could count on one hand), all appear to be possible errors by writers for whom English is not their primary language, and all dictionaries I have consulted do not cite a plural form.

Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 03:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

The obvious joke is that this is about hoses that are bent. Just on a whim, I checked for benthose, and there are at least a few hits for that as another spelling of benthos. That raises the question as to whether benthoses is the plural of benthos or benthose. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

"Benthose" also appears to be a surname in West Virginia >_<

Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 11:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

dejeration

Only one use found 85.48.186.106 19:54, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Three in EEBO: [25] [26] [27]. Yes, they used -i- but they didn't always distinguish i and j then, so we should count these cites towards the -j- form. This, that and the other (talk) 01:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

vector

Rfv-sense: "The way in which the eyes are drawn across the visual text. The trail that a book cover can encourage the eyes to follow from certain objects to others."

A very wordy and specific definition, but "vector + eye tracking" or "vector + book cover" don't seem to turn anything up. Just a lot about vector graphics and the sense 2 vector encoding of eye co-ordinates. Smurrayinchester (talk) 14:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Google search https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vector+The+way+in+which+the+eyes+are+drawn+across+the+visual+text throws up several pages with content that seems related to this. "book cover" might be slightly over-specific but otherwise it might hold up. Mihia (talk) 00:31, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

February 2025

grip

Two noun senses:

• (figurative) Assistance; help; encouragement.
• (figurative) Someone who is helpful, interesting, admirable, or inspiring.

Added here along with corresponding verb senses. The verb senses failed RFV in 2022 and were deleted here. Mihia (talk) 20:12, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

CU46

Unlisted Father of minus 2 (talk) 11:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

(By the same user as Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones.) Seems more likely to have been made up to panic parents than to be real. - -sche (discuss) 20:27, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

bing chilling

Rfv-pronunciation. --ChemPro (talk) 12:37, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

I guess its verb is pronounced as /bɪŋ ˈt͡ʃɪlɪŋ/, whereas its noun is pronounced as /bɪŋ t͡ʃɪlˈɪŋ/ with the stress on the second syllabyle of chilling. --ChemPro (talk) 15:00, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

cyberfarting

Rfv-sense:

1. (UK, formal, singular only) The act of repeatedly sending virtual media to a user via cyberspace with malicious intent.

This definition misses the point, since it's not the sending of just any virtual media, but of sending virtual media of someone farting.

The whole entry needs to be reworked- the usage seems to be entirely in reference to the recent prosecution of a woman in India for allegedly doing this, so it's probably a hot word that doesn't fit the labels in the definition line, and it probably should be lemmatized at the verb cyberfart / cyber fart. I decided to post it as an RFV rather than an RFC because it's completely wrong in its present form and should be deleted if not cleaned up. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:41, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I have improved the entry and fixed the definition. It means sending fart videos. This relates to a single UK case of a woman who did this to harass somebody. Generally spelled "cyber-farting". Apparently not used outside tabloid news discussion of that one case. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B5BB:F9F5:7CF6:B0BB 12:31, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

grammar

Rfv-sense "(computing theory) A formal system specifying the syntax of a language." Doesn't really look like a distinct sense. there could definitely be a nuanced difference between this and Sense 1, but the way the one quote we have now uses the word grammar, although certainly adapted a bit for its purpose, is imo still an ordinary use of Sense 1 ragweed theater _{talk, user} 16:53, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

See formal grammar for a more thorough definition. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:C45D:16B0:6A08:44BE 14:42, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

click off

Various implausible senses having no connection to clicking. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7554:3300:196:C6E0 19:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

The first three senses seem synonymous to senses of tick off:

• click off 1 = tick off 1 literally
• click off 2 = tick off 2
• click off 3 = tick off 1 figuratively

So we could somehow collapse these to a single sense "To tick off (to check off; to list)" perhaps? This, that and the other (talk) 00:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• My feeling is that these are valid senses (though possibly don't need to be three separate definitions), probably based on the idea of clicking one of those hand-held counting gadgets. I can find a few relevant examples of "click off the miles", "click off the days", "click off the items" etc., albeit not quite as many as I expected. Mihia (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

infusibility

Etymology 2: “Capability of being infused, poured in, or instilled”; “rare” in the OED, with only “in N. Webster, American Dictionary of English Language ; and in mod. Dicts.” J3133 (talk) 07:40, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

• Failed+deleted Worm spail (talk) 21:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Possibly cited: one on the talk page, two on the citations page. Some other hits at google books:"infusibility into" may be this sense. - -sche (discuss) 20:15, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

It would make sense to me that there would be two points of view about two materials that were being fused, say, one a porous solid, the other a liquid:

1. from the PoV of the porous solid: "capable of being infused (into)": A highly hygroscopic, microporous solid would have low infusibility.
2. from the PoV of the liquid: "capable of infusing". A highly viscose liquid would have low infusibility.

Whether it is actually used in both ways, I don't know. It would seem worthwhile to have distinct definitions if both can be supported. DCDuring (talk) 16:47, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

March 2025

Schwarzschild density

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 17:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Schwarzschild density:

1. at Google Scholar
2. at Google Books

Looks well attested to me. DCDuring (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

They have different values. I'm not sure there is a single consistent value that can be attested across multiple works. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:21, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Then edit that part out. In such theoretical physics a few orders of magnitude doesn't seem to get people upset anyway. DCDuring (talk) 13:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

The current definition does not make sense; it has dimension ${\mathsf {ML^{{-}1}}}$ (mass/length), whereas a density should have dimension ${\mathsf {ML^{{-}3}}}$ (mass/volume). A definition found in the literature that does make sense is: the mass of a black hole divided by the volume of its Schwarzschild sphere, where the latter is defined as a sphere whose radius is the Schwarzschild radius.^[28][29]  ​‑‑Lambiam 13:47, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

OTOH, errors in dimensional analsys do get theoretical physicists upset. An entry quality improvement to be celebrated. DCDuring (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

samesexer

Even the hyphenated form seems dubious, but this one is really pushing it. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BD8F:976:A4DC:6C26 21:21, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

If one fancies, Google Books has more than enough quotes. Some might see better previews than I do on my German machine. Never heard of it never was a good reason, what do you think a dictionary is for, other than to tell you things you haven’t heard or read. Fay Freak (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

To adjudicate Scrabble games mainly. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BD8F:976:A4DC:6C26 22:37, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

number three

Rfv-sense; this seems an obvious extension from number one and number two, but does it really meet CFI beyond being an easy nonce coinage? Courtesy ping, @User:HildaSimp. 🌙🐇 ^{⠀talk⠀ ⠀contribs⠀} 18:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

just making sure everyone sees the discussion from the previous RFV, at talk:number three, where it had been listed as just a synonym for number one. i think it's used often enough to mean masturbation, but it can also mean

• menstruation, particularly changing or disposing of an undergarment (because that's a bodily function too, and tampons are often dispensed in bathrooms). i once saw a Ren & Stimpy cartoon where one of the characters, i think Stimpy, said first he had to do number one, then number two, then number three, as he goes first into a men's room, then a boys' room, and then a girls' room. it could've been the artists' way of hinting at this meaning while staying kid-friendly, but it could also be completely meaningless. possibly proof of use here, though i understand TikToks are not CFI.

• washing one's hands.

♬ once you've done number one and number two ♬

♬ don't forget to do number three!♬

• possibly other things. one of the TikToks suggests it means #1 and #2 together. i think there was a different discussion somewhere but i can't find it now. it might have been on Reddit or some other site and not specific to Wiktionary. the Ren & Stimpy use may have just been absurdist humor, after all.

i lean towards not including this as currently defined, but i cant figure out how to express exactly why. it seems like we're missing the point if we insist on a precise definition, when the expression is almost always used in such a way that its meaning is derived from context. But, perhaps we could write a definition such as any third bodily function besides urination and defecation? —Soap— 13:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Not "any third bodily function" (eg, not digestion, respiration, motion, perspiration). Perhaps "any of certain common (tabooed?) bodily functions, especially those producing liquids, such as […] ". Harder and probably not worthwhile to include hand-washing. DCDuring (talk) 15:46, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

yeah, i didnt make up the hand-washing song, but it must've stuck in my head out of proportion to its use, because i can't even find it now. and i don't think it was on a video, either, so I'm surprised i can't find it. oh well. i agree with you although i'd say the phrase bodily function itself is lexicalized enough to exclude those others .... in any case, i think the definition we use should make it clear that it relies on context. —Soap— 21:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

grossulin

A vegetable jelly. It is certainly some substance, but "vegetable jelly" doesn't look like the right definition. My guess is it is an old word for something with another name--85.48.185.67 14:17, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Pectin is the ingredient that makes jelly gel, so "vegetable jelly" isn't that far off the mark. A number of 19th-century reference works in Google Books state that grossulin is a synonym for pectin. I'm sure some scientist found a gelatinous substance in gooseberry fruit that later was shown to be the same as pectin, and the name was forgotten. I would label it as an obsolete synonym of "pectin". Chuck Entz (talk) 14:36, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

• Kept as citable, without citing Vealhurl (talk) 10:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

  I'm not sure that it is citable in English. I see only mentions. OTOH, I believe that Grossulin would be citable in German, from chemical works of more than a hundred years ago, with the same definition and etymology. DCDuring (talk) 23:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

• Failed as uncitable, then. Vealhurl (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

squirmish

Ety 2, "skirmish". Usual tosh by this IP; all quotes given are mentions. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:54, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Cited. 2601:240:8002:E690:9995:D46C:8193:D473 02:26, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

The noun under etymology 2 is cited but not the verb. Also, could etymology 1 not be 'squirm+squeamish' rather than 'squirm+ish'? -Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

femcel

Sense 2: "(loosely, Internet, slang, ironic) A woman associated with and/or adjacent to the incel 'aesthetic', 'vibe', or other connotations."

Looks like this might reflect actual in-the-wild usage (femcelcore seems to be an oft-ironic TikTok phenomenon) but it needs to be backed up by cites demonstrating usage distinct from the "involuntarily celibate woman" sense. WordyAndNerdy (talk) 12:17, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

not worth salt

This doesn't seem right, I think it should have "one's" inserted, as in worth one's salt. I'm not sure whether it's worth keeping it. DonnanZ (talk) 12:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Donnanz: probably best to list this at RFD. I, too, think it should be deleted as redundant to worth one's salt. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Sgconlaw: Yes, I thought about that, it's a toss-up. If it can't be verified, it can be deleted here. DonnanZ (talk) 14:42, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

It isn't hard to find not worth salt in 19th century and early 20th century works. It also occurs in not worth salt to one's|the|a porridge|poddish|black bread|broth|kail|meat|herring. DCDuring (talk) 20:56, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@DCDuring: ah. Does it ever occur in the positive form worth salt? If so, maybe move it to that form. — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Maybe but it's very scarce. DCDuring (talk) 22:37, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

greengate

(Scotland) A greenway. I cannot find it outside of place names. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:C9B5:DFF3:D287:C6E5 18:15, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Just noting that OED has an entry under green gate labelled "rare (now Scottish)" with only two quotations, one dated c. 1540 and the other a mention in a 1988 glossary called Orkney Wordbook. — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:10, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

It's possibly from Old Norse gata (“street, road”), the Concise Scots Dictionary doesn't help though. DonnanZ (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

shonk

Sense 3: a shark. Maybe this is some Internet meme joke sense like "puppers" being dogs, but I dunno. Convince me. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:6439:7FE9:917C:AB93 00:37, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

apparently used a lot on the internet to refer to the blåhaj shark plushie from IKEA? a google image search of "shonk" shows that posters in r/BLAHAJ use it routinely. probably influenced by stonk (etym 2) and thonk. might be difficult to cite with durable sources, but we kept car, etymology 1 sense 11, so there's probably no reason not to keep this as well.

in any case, this is a separate etymology from the other senses. ragweed theater _{talk, user} 12:22, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

auf

Two senses, one cite, and that says "Say that the Fayrie left this Aulfe," and doesn't actually use auf (and aulfe doesn't have an entry). It's very hard to search for since auf is so common in German.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

With the help of Wright's English Dialect Dictionary, which has this under awf, I managed to find two cites of sense 2 spelled awf and one spelled aufe, and 1-3 cites (depending on whether or not we take "awf shot" to attest "awf" or only to be an alt form of elf-shot) of a sense, which we lack, "elf". It seems the lemma should be moved to awf (and the link at oaf updated). I don't know if sense 1 is attestable. - -sche (discuss) 04:39, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

I've set up awf, with cites. I didn't just move the entry, because I realized the senses were distinct (but the ones currently listed at auf, and that spelling, may not be attested). Oph may not be attested, either; I'm going to add it to the RFV. - -sche (discuss) 07:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

oph

(See auf.) - -sche (discuss) 07:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Lairembi

Not sure, from a check Google Books check, that the definition is correct. Many of this user's entries have been unattested in the sense given, or have been deleted for other errors... - -sche (discuss) 20:51, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Ancient Kangleipak

This seems like it may suffer from the same problem as #Ancient Meitei (above): it exists as a SOP phrase where uncapitalized "ancient" is adjacent to "Kangleipak", but whether it exists as a capitalized, unitary idiomatic phrase is unclear. - -sche (discuss) 21:15, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

via-satellite

Rfv-sense: satellite-fed foreign shows delayed by several minutes or hours in contrast to live television broadcasts Pious Eterino (talk) 08:44, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

lapsus muris

I checked, not managing to really attest. One Usenet hit, a few on Twitter, that's about it. Appears more like an independently created nonce joke for those up on their Latin roots. Hftf (talk) 09:58, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I wonder whether mouso might be attestable. DCDuring (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps barely on the web, but not in durably attested media. Hard to find because of interference from a Japanese-derived game, a proper name, and a Windows background process, etc. Anyway it might be useful for us and for interface designers. DCDuring (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

intention

Rfv-sense "A stretching or bending of the mind toward an object or a purpose (an intent); closeness of application; fixedness of attention; earnestness" These definitions are quite fuzzy, and probably just verbose ways of phrasing the main definitions. --90.174.3.94 21:38, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

the definition is imported from Webster 1913 and could be worded to sound less archaic, but this is a distinct (but obsolete; i've added the label) sense. OED gives "the action of straining or directing the mind or attention to something; mental application or effort; attention, intent observation or regard; endeavour." so, not just having a goal in mind in general, but actually putting attention and effort to it, which the modern use of the word wouldn't necessarily imply ragweed theater _{talk, user} 14:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Kings Solitude

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

libate

Tagged in 2024 TypeO889 (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Can't find this sense, only the other sense. - -sche (discuss) 23:32, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

breme

Tagged in 2025,unlisted TypeO889 (talk) 23:39, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

ablaqueation

Tagged in 2025,unlisted TypeO889 (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Probably enough in GBooks. (Sorry for the lazy comment, but the RFVs are pretty lazy themselves. Will hopefully come back to it if someone doesn't get there first.) This, that and the other (talk) 13:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Cited. - -sche (discuss) 23:35, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

ƹayn

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Hmm, weird case. I can cite عayn (these are arguably more mentions than uses, but letter names are surely a special case since they're almost never used in the strict grammatical sense):

• 1806, John Richardson, A Dictionary, Persian, Arabic and English, page 626:

  عayn, The eighteenth letter of the Arabic alphabet, and used as the twenty-first of the Persian; expressing 70 in arithmetic.

• 1997, Petra Bos, Development of Bilingualism: A Study of School-age Moroccan Children in the Netherlands:

  عayn: voiced pharyngeal fricative

• 2024 January 22, Jane Wightwick, Mahmoud Gaafar, Mastering Arabic 1, Bloomsbury Publishing, →ISBN, page 68:

  عayn does not have a near equivalent in English , so the Arabic letter itself is used in the transliteration.

and 3ayn

• 2008 November 19, Keith Massey, Intermediate Arabic For Dummies, John Wiley & Sons, →ISBN, page 63:

  The [Arabic] (3ayn) has no correspondence in English. It's produced by tightening the back of the throat and then speaking a vowel through it.

• 2011, Zouheir A. Maalej, Ning Yu, Embodiment Via Body Parts: Studies from Various Languages and Cultures, John Benjamins Publishing, →ISBN, page 214:

  The main objective is to ascertain embodiment through outer body parts, and the experience 3ayn profiles in one dialect of Arabic.

• 2014 November 4, Matthew Aldrich, Arabic Voices 2: Authentic Listening and Reading Practice in Modern Standard Arabic and Colloquial Dialects, Lingualism.com, page 13:

  It has sounds from many languages... for example it has the sound "kha", the pronunciation of "kha", the "ghayn", the ... uh ... the "3ayn", the "Ha", so there are a lot of things that don't exist in other languages […]

But I can't find any evidence that ƹ is ever used. This may be an OCR thing, or it may be that no-one ever had a reason to use it when either they'd be using a typewriter or general printing press (where ƹ and ع would both be unavailable) or a specialist printing press (which would probably be more likely to have Arabic letters than an obscure IPA variant). Smurrayinchester (talk) 08:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Update: ʕayn is also citable (1, 2, 3), and 9ayn (1, 2, 3). Everything except ƹayn! Smurrayinchester (talk) 08:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

I found this Omniglot page that uses it (I don't know if this is a reliable source or not): https://omniglot.com/charts/arabic_sudanese.xlsx

I have posted a similar message on the discussion page of the entry, because I didn't know this page existed.

Thanks.

Squidboy85 (talk) Squidboy85 (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Additional note: Omniglot has been cited before in Wikipedia entries such as this: Writing systems of Southeast Asia - Wikipedia Squidboy85 (talk) 05:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, it should be Writing systems of Southeast Asia - Wikipedia Squidboy85 (talk) 07:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I added a citation but the banner hasn’t gone away. Squidboy85 (talk) 04:22, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

There are now four citations on the page. I hope this is enough. Squidboy85 (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

I spent an hour plus looking through the four references added to the page in an attempt to convert them into quoted attestations, and arguably only one is even marginally acceptable. So far I don't see this word meeting CFI, unfortunately. There is also confusion/conflation of whether this word is a name for an Arabic letter or for a Latin letter ƹ used in some romanizations, which I tried to fix, probably in vain but whatever. That said, a couple of the references are good evidence for expanding the ƹ entry, as it is used in some romanizations. Hftf (talk) 10:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 2025

Kings Draw

I couldn't find anything relevant in Google Books, and not very much in the rest of the Internet either. —Mahāgaja · talk 16:47, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

This and Kings Solitude would appear to require an apostrophe to make sense. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:2581:80AA:C256:937C 17:21, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

tea

“(slang) good-looking, sexy”. Placed as the first sense in the entry but uncited. J3133 (talk) 14:31, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Added in diff. I'm not familiar with it, but google:"was very tea" finds various things like "I was very tea last night hun", "ginger was very tea", "A live music video that was very tea", "Morning workout was very tea", "Outcome was very TEA 💋 I’m proud of myself pics will be posted". I don't know if it's made it into magazines or books, because I have not figured out how to search Issuu for a specific phrase (if I search for "was very tea", it just returns books which have the words very, was, and tea in them in unconnected places). I agree it'd make sense to move it below the noun even if it can be cited. - -sche (discuss) 22:52, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

I have never seen it in a book or magazine, but I can definitely confirm this use is relatively widespread. ALeafInAutumn (talk) 19:02, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Found in article from Dec 2024 "Scrolling In The Deep: Is your body tea?" but for some reason the author keeps bringing up the "news/gossip" meaning even though they are very different. The article cites "this from The Atlantic" from June 2024 and the Atlantic article references tea used as a positive adjective in this way:

Queen Opp elided the verb to be from a declarative clause, which viewers seem to have misinterpreted, taking “her body [is] tea” to mean “[she has] body tea.”

Clearly this means that people have been using tea in this way since at least then, enough so that it is notable when people start using it in a new way (body tea) Sycration (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

don't try to teach grandma how to suck eggs

I could only find one use of this form. J3133 (talk) 15:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

This is SoP even if it's citable - hard redirect to teach grandma how to suck eggs. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Do we not keep proverbs? I'd prefer to redirect the negative command forms to the single most concise or most common usage. DAVilla 01:08, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

I checked for early usage, and there are mentions as far back as 1732 for "learn/teach (your) [some synonym for grandma] (how) to suck eggs" (the oldest: Teach your Grannum to ſuck eggs). Back then this kind of usage was presumably too "vulgar" to show up in print otherwise. Mostly it seems to be something said to put some arrogant younger person in their place- a derogatory characterization of what they're trying to do or think they can do, not advice. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:29, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

26/11

Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Agoslav

Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Beetlejuice

Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

MFW

Rfv-sense Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Nambé

Rfv-sense Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Communications Group

Unlisted since 2024 Vilipender (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Paswan

Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Cold War II

Unlisted since 2024 Vilipender (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

PETA

Rfv-sense Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

clock it

Unlisted since 2025 Vilipender (talk) 10:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

(See Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones for context.) - -sche (discuss) 20:38, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Today I saw this article. It's on a different sense of the phrase, though. Khemehekis (talk) 19:08, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

turning turtles

Rfv-sense The act or practice of catching turtles by fliping them on their backs. Yep, there's an actual game called turning turtles. Perhaps this should be RFD-sense, meh Vilipender (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

propagos

Plural of propago. Seems that the actual plural (even in English) is propagines. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:6544:BFA6:97A9:4E0 20:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

bullshittism

"The belief that everything is nonsense or untrue; the belief that attempting to be truthful is pointless." With a philosophy gloss, even! (Well, I did once meet a philosophy prof who taught a course called Truth and Bullshit.) But in Google Books there are only about five hits, and they just seem to mean "bullshitting, telling lies". I don't see this nihilist philosophy in evidence. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:6544:BFA6:97A9:4E0 23:48, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

graybar hotel

Only one quotation. No citations on the etymology. (Citations are needed here, right? I'm more active on Wikipedia.) — W.andrea (talk) 21:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

The term is trivially citable, though the etymology could use some sources, yeah. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1DDE:A582:20BE:E3BB 22:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

As for the etymology the sense development is as obvious as that of red-winged blackbird. Are we just looking for early attestation? An American slang dictionary dates it at 1970, but the earliest of its three citations is dated 1981. DCDuring (talk) 22:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, the derivation is obvious; I meant to say the etymology section needs citations. Specific facts like "Los Angeles", "ashamed", and "mail" would need to be cited if this were Wikipedia. — W.andrea (talk) 13:10, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

You are right. Perhaps simply eliminating some of those words would help.

Relatedly, but not importantly, I wonder whether the existence of the Graybar Electric Company, a major distributor of electrical equipment throughout the US since 1920, made the name more prominent than similar alternatives. DCDuring (talk) 20:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

elemeno

No citations. Saph (talk) 01:57, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Please be a useful part of the community and add some citations, from the obvious rich fund available when you search Google Books [30] 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1DDE:A582:20BE:E3BB 03:17, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Smarandache function

See WT:RFDE#Smarandache function → Talk:Smarandache function. The challenge here, apparently, is to find three independent uses. This, that and the other (talk) 04:35, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

direct-message

Noun. I originally put this as a form under the verb. J3133 (talk) 05:13, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

anachronym

Rfv-sense 1: "a backronym". See the usage notes, and Talk:anachronym (posted by another user just now: I'm RFVing on his/her behalf). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E509:6B03:1FA8:8FA8 09:07, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

anachronistic

Adding tagged-but-not-listed RFV for our second adjectival sense of anachronistic (‘behind the times’ or ‘Conservative’). It is clearly meant to be the adjective corresponding to our second sense of anachronism when applied to a person rather than a place. Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:00, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

deaggro

Both senses, unhyphenated (the hyphenated form would be SoP - sense one of de- plus the relevant sense of aggro). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Well, maybe, but la-de-da contains de- that isn't de-. (Entry seems to have had a lot of cites added now, by the way.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:4936:1531:AACE:AD57 19:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

In this specific case, unlike that one, "de-" has its usual meaning. And this is still missing a third unhyphenated cite for the transitive sense to be technically complete (but I wouldn't have RfVed in the current state) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

I added what I could find on Usenet. While the entry is still missing a third transitive unhyphenated cite, both forms seem widespread online. Einstein2 (talk) 23:27, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

ji bai

jibai

Compare the RFV of cibai above. - -sche (discuss) 14:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

quaternary

Adjective sense 4, which says "quaternary ammonium" (how is that an adjective?). Presumably it does have a meaning in that phrase, but what is it? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E065:9E45:D64C:F38E 20:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

amphibological

Rfv-sense "(linguistics) Grammatically ambiguous." how distinct is this from the first sense, and how securely citeable is it as specialized linguistics terminology? ragweed theater _{talk, user} 21:44, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

syngameon

Tagged in 2025 Vilipender (talk) 22:32, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

helmet

helm

Rfv-sense: "(heraldry) Such a helm when placed above a shield on a coat of arms." I don't think that this exists separate from sense 1. In theory, if someone said "bishops bear mitres as helmets" that could be this, but in fact books say bishops don't use helmets (they use mitres instead). This may be a leftover from when we formerly had a bunch of "hawk: 1. a bird. 2. this same bird, when it appears on a coat of arms." senses. - -sche (discuss) 05:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Let me also RFV the corresponding sense of helm. I don't think these exist distinctly; I think they are the "hawk" phenomenon I mentioned. - -sche (discuss) 18:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Wahalal

Mimicking of Quran recitation. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:2CDE:4536:2194:2A09 10:48, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

May 2025

kapeyka

I can only find this in reference to Belarus. J3133 (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

NLP

Is NLP used as an initialism for “neuro-linguistic psychotherapy”?  ​‑‑Lambiam 15:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

dey play

Tagged in 2025 Vilipender (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Probably real; at least, "they [are] playing" is used in this way. (But maybe SOP, sense 16 of play, or whatever extended sense they're playing, quit playing etc are using?) See Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones for more context BTW. - -sche (discuss) 20:26, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

dollar-speaking

Rfv-sense Anglophone Vilipender (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

The phrase "speaking dollar" seems way more common than this. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F57D:AA4A:497:5681 22:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

dry beat

RFV sexy term Vilipender (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

(By the same user as Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones.) - -sche (discuss) 20:26, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

octarius

Rfv-sense English Vilipender (talk) 21:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Cited, although it's very borderline, and might not even be (as presently labelled) "historical", but instead outright "obsolete", because I don't see that the word is actually still used. - -sche (discuss) 01:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

parusia

Tagged in 2024 Vilipender (talk) 21:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Added 3 cites. One uses italics. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9C29:7D73:BAF9:8617 13:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

meat dealer

Rfv-sense pimp Vilipender (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

are the Kennedies gun-shy

J3133 (talk) 08:11, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Can't find the "ies" spelling. I can with the "ys" spelling. CitationsFreak (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Brexit

Dubious sense is "(slang, by extension) To leave a romantic relationship." I am aware of Brexit as a humorous substitution for exit generally, a broader sense, but I have never encountered a specifically romantic meaning, nor can I turn up any such examples by searching the web, which is where I would most expect to see them. 166.181.80.135 08:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

raisin

Rfv-sense

1. (rare, slang) guardian (A person legally responsible for a minor (in loco parentis))

Chuck Entz (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

shy

Rfv-sense "embarrassed." Sounds plausible, but after hours of searching, I cannot find it in any modern or historical dictionary, nor can I locate any attestations. 166.181.80.135 15:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

• I spent not just hours, but days searching. No attestations here either. Maybe someone needs a weeks-long search. Vealhurl (talk) 12:10, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

orbicula

Zoology term. I can only find the term capitalized, suggesting it is a(n outdated) taxonomic name--90.167.189.218 18:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Cited, including from sources distinguishing the lower- and uppercase forms. The lowercase form seems to have died out before the 20th century. The uppercase form remains in currency as a genus.

I have also turned up two other attestable senses, but I do not have time just now to add them with proper citations. Look for them soon. 166.181.80.135 22:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, only one sense after more careful scrutiny. 166.181.86.165 01:36, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

organophyly

Rfv-sense tribal history of organs. Doesn't make sense to me. --90.167.189.204 20:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

The word tribal here probably is in the historical sense of "phylogenic" (as opposed to "ontogenic"), a sense formerly used under the theory of recapitulation, but which we seem not to have at its entry. When I get a chance, I'll see if I can make a pass over that whole cluster of terms. 166.181.86.165 01:40, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, that was more tedious than expected. See revisions at biogeny, blastogeny, blastophyly, cormogeny, cormophyly, germ history, histogeny, histophyly, morphogeny, morphophyly, organogeny, organophyly, -phyly, physiogeny, physiophyly, tribal, tribal history, and tribehood. 166.181.86.165 00:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

infinity theory

Rfv-This term was made up based on the fact that physical abusers never stop abusing their victims in a romantic relationship. The abuse never ends just the way the term 'infinity' means never ending. Chinwe911 (talk) 23:07, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chinwe911 did you make it up? I'm struggling to find any evidence of the use of this term. This, that and the other (talk) 06:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

queen bee

Moved from RFD:

Rfd-sense: stem cell. Is this really such a stock metaphor that it needs its own sense? This, that and the other (talk) 07:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep or send to RFV. If the term really is used this way (outside of explanations of the metaphor), we should have a sense for it. — excarnateSojourner (ta·co) 01:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep/RFV - clearly idiomatic if real. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

This, that and the other (talk) 08:56, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

verded

The only quote in the entry is from a dictionary of early Scots, and the Google Books hits seem to be all scannos except for text in languages like German, Dutch and Spanish (and one sci-fi book that uses its own made-up word for some kind of virtual reality display). Chuck Entz (talk) 04:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I found one clear use, "villages dotted here and there besprinkling the verded slopes like jewels" in Kentucky in the early 1910s. There is also a handwritten use here which could be verded (as Google OCRs it) or could be something else. - -sche (discuss) 16:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

overlash

Rfv-sense to drive on rashly. What does that actually mean? Drive a vehicle? --85.48.185.234 07:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

To go on a "spree" or "bender", I imagine. (Sense might come from the idea of driving an animal, like a carthorse.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7912:4B5A:B874:B88C 15:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Cited overlashingly. 166.181.86.165 13:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

bad touch

Sense 2: "An interaction that makes someone uncomfortable." 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7912:4B5A:B874:B88C 20:37, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps the sense of touch as seen in high touch? Depends what kind of interaction we're talking about. This, that and the other (talk) 06:18, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay, from the entry history they must mean an interpersonal interaction, as between a child and an adult. (I don't see how the entry creator can genuinely call themselves a native English speaker in their Babel box, by the way. The writing style is curiously reminiscent of our profanity-obsessed user with no concept of Standard English.) This, that and the other (talk) 06:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

pallet

Rfv-sense 3oz cup --90.174.2.221 00:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Cited, though with a few concerns. First, it seems to be a Parisian measure almost never used in English except when translating French palette of the same sense. So one could maybe argue that it is just a foreign term expressed in then-current orthography rather than a proper learned borrowing. On the other hand, a number of old dictionaries count it as English. Second, as a broader concern, we have all of the senses imported from Webster lumped under a catch-all etymology with no details. I'm going to break this one out, but I don't know where the other senses belong. 166.181.86.165 06:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

It might also be worth revisiting Talk:pallet#Blood. 166.181.86.165 07:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps getting off topic, but while I am here, do we know what sense of pallet accounts for this kind of usage?

• 1827 October 24, James Webster, Caleb B. Matthews, Isacc Remington, “Analecta”, in The Medical Recorder of Original Papers and Intelligence in Medicine and Surgery, volume XII, sourced from Johnson's Journal for April 1827, M. Piorry's Pleximetre, page 187:

  M. Piorry has announced that, by means of a small pallet of ivory placed on any part of the abdomen or thorax, he has been enable to turn percussion to a much better account than has yet been done; the sound emitted by the portions thus covered by the ivory pallet, being much clearer and more indicative of the actual state of the parts underneath, than when these parts are stricken by the fingers in the usual way.

166.181.86.165 07:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

keystone

Rfv-sense "A native or resident of the American state of Pennsylvania." I would expect uppercase like Jayhawk or Hoosier, but in fact a quick search didn't find me anything in either case, except references to literal keystone stones in buildings in the state (lowercase) and a state sports franchise (uppercase). - -sche (discuss) 04:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Cf. Keystoner. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B9E2:37CF:57AE:AA62 05:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

soucoupe

With quotations but tagged yesterday by 92.184.102.122 with the edit summary “Appears to be just a submersible's brand name. It should thus be classified under proper names in my opinion. Antonomasia needs to be confirmed otherwise.”, not listed. J3133 (talk) 05:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The quotations are probably enough to confirm its existence. SVG-image-maker (talk) 23:45, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Note that the TLFi has this sense (in French). J3133 (talk) 05:37, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

We claim this comes from soucoupe plongeante, which we say means diving saucer but we have no entries at soucoupe plongeante or diving saucer. If only Cousteau’s invention is ever referred to it would fail WT:BRAND but I did find one use of ‘diving saucer’ to refer to a Westinghouse diving saucer rather than Cousteau’s one on Google Books. I suspect this will pass with some further sleuthing. Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:52, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Overlordnat1: I do not think WT:BRAND applies as this is not the official name. J3133 (talk) 15:38, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

paludinous

Rfv-sense relating to a marsh or fen --90.174.2.127 11:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Seems quite popular around the 1880s. Cited. 166.181.86.165 13:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I've combined this sense and "paludinal", which don't seem distinct, as paludinal seems to have the same range of meanings as this. I added several more cites. - -sche (discuss) 14:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

orchidaceous

Sense 2: "Characterized by ostentatiousness; showy." 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F466:18CA:8E32:5020 16:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

My gut thinks of "orchidaceous" as more like a particular flavor of "exotic," and the examples I found seem to agree better with that idea than with "ostentatious" or "showy". Therefore, I have proposed a revision to the contested definition. Assuming the revision is okay, cited. 166.181.86.165 07:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Indonesiaphilia

Indonesiaphobic

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Taiyal

English. not sure if older publications use Taiyal to mean Atayal. Chihunglu83 (talk) 11:05, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it's the same group of people. Are you disputing that the form Taiyal exists? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7951:BADB:CD17:6366 14:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

pongo

Rfv-sense

1. A canyon or gorge in South America, especially one cutting through a ridge or mountain range.
2. (British, slang) A lazy, good-for-nothing person.

As mentioned at the Tea room, both of these were added by an account blocked for making things up, who removed senses in order to add them. I have no problem restoring the removed stuff, but I would rather we go through the verification process for the added senses, just to be safe. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

For the first sense see Pongo (geography) on Wikipedia.Wikipedia . The question is whether it is attestable in English outside the proper names listed there. This, that and the other (talk) 00:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

The geographic sense appears in Webster's Third. So this hopefully proves its existence.

The only problem is that the definition there is stated the exact same way, so we might have to reword it.

Here's the OG for proof. https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMH5vMBVitmgrSSAO_HzUh8qknkvwbHxucI0wMN SVG-image-maker (talk) 00:07, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

border jumper

No sources. Chuterix (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Abundantly citable from Google Books. DCDuring (talk) 16:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

tommy

Rfv-sense barter. Obsolete slang, apparently, if that's anyone's fetish. Vilipender (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Did you see the usage note? "Often used adjectivally or in compounds: tommy master, tommy-store, tommy-shop, etc." You can search for those. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7951:BADB:CD17:6366 14:49, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

tick

Rfv-senses To go on trust, or credit. / To give tick; to trust. Imported from Webster 1913, probably obsolete. Vilipender (talk) 20:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

tooth hurty

A time to go to the dentist. Yeh, this is the punchline of a joke - "what's the best time to go to the dentist?", and it should be tagged as such. Maybe this is a RFD discussion... Vilipender (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

The "tooth hurtee" Chinese pidgin mockery is covered at -ee, by the way. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7951:BADB:CD17:6366 14:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

bless oneself

Looking for verification that this means specifically "to make the sign of the cross; cross oneself" and not generally just "[[bless]] [[oneself]]" (which would of course be SOP). —Mahāgaja · talk 20:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Move to RFD (and delete), or just delete: this is already dealt with in sense 5 of bless: "(Christianity) To make the sign of the cross upon, so as to sanctify". One can bless not just oneself, but a priest can bless his parishioners, etc. That entry contains the quotation "[T]he archbishop vsing certeine praiers, blessed the king". — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

  No, those are separate senses. As far as I'm aware, people do not understand "bless oneself" in the same way as "bless a rosary" or "bless him". Andrew Sheedy (talk) 03:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Cited. And I would reiterate that this is an idiomatic sense. I can only confidently speak for Catholics, but I can say definitively that the act of blessing oneself is not understood as an actual blessing. It is mainly called "blessing oneself" by analogy with what a priest does when he blesses (though the term "bless oneself" is no longer used much, perhaps for this reason). Andrew Sheedy (talk) 04:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Kurdistan Autonomous Oblast

Does not seem to be used (nothing on Google Books). The other autonomous oblasts might also not meet WT:ATTEST. J3133 (talk) 06:48, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

The sole autonomous oblast in the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic mentioned on Wikipedia is the (ethnic Armenian) Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast.  ​‑‑Lambiam 15:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

moslings

J3133 (talk) 16:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Just barely cited. It's mentioned a lot more than it's used. - -sche (discuss) 20:48, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Burgundian System

WT:FICTION. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Weak keep It appears that the 3 quotes are referring to the sense of "Nazism more extreme than real-life Nazism", so I tend to keep, while agreeing that the sense should be amended accordingly to remove direct TNO reference. Of course, durably archived quotes are way better than normal social media sources. And as a sidenote, I'm pretty amazed that there's a TNO reference here...廣九直通車 (talk) 10:42, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

fleasy

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

cinnabar

"(in Cinnabar Panacea) The Elixir of Life." So we need evidence that cinnabar is used on its own with this meaning, or else it shouldn't be here, but at its own separate entry. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:74DB:73E4:8706:16F6 18:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

hairen

Since the weak plural of Middle English here (“haircloth”) was obsolescent by the time spellings in hair- begin to appear, I consider the existence of ME hairen (“haircloths”) dubious (The University of Michigan Corpus of Middle English Prose and Verse records no attestations of hairen in any sense, though it is far from exhaustive). Hazarasp (parlement · werkis)

Bobux

Slang for Roblox game currency. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:74DB:73E4:8706:16F6 22:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Added 4 quotations, though it might be a misspelling. J3133 (talk) 04:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

heiren

See the RfV above for hairen. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 23:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

colorific

Rfv-sense flowery; ornate.

I do not find any such uses that could not also be explained by the second, more clearly attested sense, colorful. 166.181.86.74 04:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

this sense in OED is marked as specifically "of language or literary style"; OED has five whole cites of it ragweed theater _{talk, user} 20:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

boss

"Boss" in the humorous sense of "wife" seems to be quite far a reach from the connotations of "boss" as a demanding figure. I have never encountered such attestations at all, and the example sentence provided in that entry would make more sense to me if it said: "I'll have to run it by the wife."

The connotation is that of sense 2: "a person in charge" (e.g. of the household, or decision-making). Compare SWMBO (“she who must be obeyed”). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:A818:1F7A:7CB0:A6F9 12:24, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

It’s a subsense of sense 2 that definitely exists IRL, I often hear customers say: “I’ll take a receipt, the boss might want to return it” and normally, when this happens, it’s a man talking about what might happen when he shows the item to his wife (rather than a woman referring to her husband or a person referring to their actual boss). Overlordnat1 (talk) 04:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

integri

Supposed plural of integer. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 04:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

the same person also added colores as a plural in the color entry, apparently under the assumption that this reflects the Latin plural colōrēs (since they also added omina for omens and *integri for integers). but of course this rather reflects a regular English plural before the deletion of the e in -es (unless there was any documentation of ME /ɛː/ in the final syllable), and if this is to be added as an archaic plural, then surely thousands of other entries must have the same, since just about every countable weak noun that existed back in ME will have had a plural form spelled with -es at some point ragweed theater _{talk, user} 12:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

hog's bane

Rfv-sense: Chenopodiastrum murale (nettle-leaved goosefoot).

Not in Books or Scholar. Maybe under some other form or of some other species. DCDuring (talk) 15:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't know about the lexical side of it, but the plant is edible and harmless (I've eaten it myself) and pigweed is a related species- so named because pigs eat it. About the only way it could cause harm to swine would be through obesity from eating too much... Chuck Entz (talk) 04:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Too many possible forms, each potentially used of a different species or group thereof: hogbane, hogsbane, hog's bane, hogs' bane, hog bane, hogs bane, hog-bane, hogs-bane, hog's-bane. It would be easier to manage these by some prescriptive principles. We have suppressed capitalized forms. DCDuring (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I can find mentions, including one which shares Chuck's uncertainty as to how this could be a bane to hogs:

• 1835, David Booth, An Analytical Dictionary of the English Language: In which the Words are Explained in the Order of Their Natural Affinity, Independent of Alphabetical Arrangement; and the Signification of Each is Traced from Its Etymology ... to which are Added, an Introduction, Containing a New Grammar of the Language, and an Alphabetical Index, for the Ease of Consultation, page 235:

  ... (CHENOPODIUM murale) has also, we know not why, the name SOWBANE, or HOGSBANE. BANE, (Saxon bana,) is poison, and, in that sense, is a termination in the names of various plants; but we are not aware that Swine are thus [poisoned by this].

I can't find uses where the meaning is clear. - -sche (discuss) 20:58, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

nox

Sense added today: “The period of darkness in each twenty-four hours; a night.” Also requesting verification of the plurals, noctes, noxes, and noces. J3133 (talk) 03:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

pawy

Adjective: "like a paw". — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 10:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

annulletty

I created this a decade ago after encountering it somewhere, but upon searching now, I don't think it's used enough (even on the web) to meet CFI. - -sche (discuss) 01:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I think it would be encountered in catalogues of arms, not merely defined in heraldic treatises. The problem there is that very few of these are online, though I know of one that might be. It's like searching copyright and trademark files: they may use a term occasionally, even regularly, but only a tiny fraction of them are widely distributed. P Aculeius (talk) 03:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

While researching this, I noticed that the uses I found were all under the spelling "annuletty" (sometimes also mentioning "annulettée"), not "annulletty", which might be a variant spelling. In case that's not the issue here, this is what I found:

I thought Papworth's Ordinary might have some examples, but under "annulet" it just gives one instance "semy of annulets". This could be because, as the introduction explains, it rewords blazons to fit a set style. The arms, attributed to "Yvain", might refer to the Arthurian knight, rather than a historical family of that name, as I see his arms depicted with annulets.

This source, though a glossary, gives an example in use: "argent, a cross annuletty sable", attributed to Westley, and again on page 11 of the same book, "rings were attached to the cross annuletty ", also a usage example (in both cases, this seems to have to do with a play on the word "waist" for "Westley"). Here we have a similar figure described in a book on coinage, referring to "a cross pommée or annuletty". The term is then defined, but only after being used, so a usage example IMO. Here is another usage in the context of a coin, but without a definition. Other catalogues of coins are also coming up on Google Books.

I expect there are other heraldic examples; if I understand what the introduction to Papworth says, the scarcity of examples therein isn't necessarily due to the scarcity of arms with a field or part of a field annuletty, but because arms are organized according to the principal charge, and so a lion on a field annuletty might appear under "lion" but not "annulet". P Aculeius (talk) 03:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

ronto-

Now that ronto-second has failed RFV, we should probably also delete this prefix. Overlordnat1 (talk) 06:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

The entry "rontosecond" now has no fewer than 5 valid quotations. Social media posts have become a major medium of written English. The type of content that appeared in an enthusiast magazine in the 1980s would most likely be on a hobbyist website in the 2000s, and on a social media thread in the 2020s. Entire longstanding publications like The Independent have become online-only, and others like the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette have reduced frequency of print editions. SVG-image-maker (talk) 13:03, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Genesis

Console brand name. Mega Drive was deleted previously. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:34D8:C7FD:3F0A:473E 13:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

• Good find. Failed, tho this is a RFD issueVealhurl (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

big back

"British slang, dated, used to refer to giant buttocks" 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:34D8:C7FD:3F0A:473E 14:59, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

It might be worth mentioning that the etymology for the term in general mentions this sense. MedK1 (talk) 02:20, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

nonstandard method

I'm slightly unsure if the definition as written is fully correct; otherwise this seems like a SOP of nonstandard + method. Svārtava (tɕ) 06:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

This term is used in nonstandard analysis. I added three cites for refeence. mysteryroom (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

It still looks like nonstandard + method, except in a mathematical context. I will RfD it. DCDuring (talk) 20:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

June 2025

goodwill

Rfv-sense: thrift shop

I'm not American, so I genuinely don't know: can "goodwill" in lower case be used generically to mean any thrift shop? I thought it was just a brand name. Smurrayinchester (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

There are numerous instances of "goodwills/Goodwills and thrift stores" (usually capitalized), suggesting that many maintain a distinction. Goodwill Industries International ($6.1 billion in 2018 revenue) seems to control the use of the name as well as most for-profit entities control theirs. DCDuring (talk) 15:58, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

I managed to find three lowercase cites (one even plural), which I suppose someone unfamiliar with the stores would have no way to interpret as a proper noun name of a specific brand of store, but it seems quite rare compared to capitalized use of Goodwill. - -sche (discuss) 21:18, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

decroded

Decrepit and corroded. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:A4BC:5EF6:B33D:51F6 23:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

• I found nothing either Lfellet (talk) 22:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

decrode

To become decrepit or corrode. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:A4BC:5EF6:B33D:51F6 23:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

• I found nothing either Lfellet (talk) 22:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

pimlico

The friarbird. A few mentions is all I found --90.174.2.171 05:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

I can't find that sense, but I think I have cited this as a different bird. - -sche (discuss) 17:28, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Joy-Con

WT:BRAND. Needs generic usage with no reference to the game console... good luck with that... 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:AD47:1950:D409:79F3 17:06, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Almost all the thousand+ results on iWeb (including for spaced "joy con" "joy cons" and unspaced "joycon" "joycons") attest to widespread generic usage. Whether meet CFI idk Hftf (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

if it ain't snowing, I ain't going

Sense: “(humorous) Used other than figuratively or idiomatically: see snow. Indicating reluctance to go out unless it is snowing.” J3133 (talk) 08:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

balustic

— Fenakhay ^{(حيطي · مساهماتي)} 20:37, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

sophism

“(countable, rare) Wisdom and knowledge.” Sense added (and placed incorrectly) today by 112.198.207.116 (the second contribution is linking “wise”, “sage” and “shrewd” in the definition of Latin sophus). Wisdom and knowledge are usually uncountable; the OED does not have this sense. J3133 (talk) 06:49, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

nanna wobble

Not easy to find. Maybe in one or two news articles. Maybe only in plural. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:817A:6836:1F94:BEBC 08:53, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

nan flap

Another bingo wings synonym. I can only find mentions (or maybe one or two mention-y uses of the type "those bingo wings (or nan flaps, if you prefer) are..."). It's possible that these people have picked it up from us, since it's been listed as a synonym in the bingo wings entry for 20 years! This, that and the other (talk) 00:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

fruzz

This is either a newly emerging hot word, or someone on TikTok trying to make fetch happen. I will leave the determination to others more adept with social media attestation to determine which. Also, I think there may be a couple of other completely unrelated senses out there, but I'm not sure they meet CFI. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

macr-

I can't find any actual words that use 'macr-' instead of 'macro-' when starting with a vowel. There are tons of false positives, so I might have missed one, but I don't see it. Deacon Vorbis (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

macrergate, macrencephalic, macradenous 125.237.67.137 05:42, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

envowel

This is cited from a secondary source. The original Jacobite's Journal article has "emvowel"; a few 19thC texts made this mistake: 1855 Frederick Lawrence The life of Henry Fielding; 1858 Alexander Andrews The History of British Journalism; 1887 H.R. Bourne English newspapers. But it is merely the same mistake repeated.-Sonofcawdrey (talk) 07:46, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

oracally

Irregular adverb (which I fixed from adjective); is it used independently of the 2025 article and related works? J3133 (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

vtuber

vtubing

When searching for quotations of VTubing, these forms were used in one Vice article, hence I did not create them, but Netizen3102 did last month without verifying, using this one article. They do not seem in general use (excluding textspeak capitalization), also taking into account that another quoted Vice article uses VTuber and VTubing. J3133 (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Google Doc

Rfv-sense: "Any online document created by a word processor software." Einstein2 (talk) 19:51, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

lmao kill with fire. As somebody who is old enough to have coded a spell-check for Tasword Two (look it up) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1D1B:AB3B:282E:BA18 08:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I've used this before, if not I've heard it IRL at least. BirchTainer (talk) 01:26, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

resonance consulting

This has citations, but there's no indication that they're referring to the same thing as the paragraph-long mass of doubletalk posing as a definition (whatever that may be). Chuck Entz (talk) 05:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

They were not even citations, more like a bibliography for this term the creator is trying to promote and 'background information' on it. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:55, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

snead

Rfv-sense A line or cord; a string. - unlisted Worm spail (talk) 23:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

fish hook

Rfv-sense The International Phonetic Alphabet /ɾ/ character LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK, used to represent an alveolar tap. Worm spail (talk) 23:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

have the whole bakery

(idiomatic, slang, stative) To have large, callipygian buttocks; to be caked up Worm spail (talk) 23:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

hippity hoppity

Weird shitWorm spail (talk) 23:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hard to precisely define I suppose, but very easy to find attestations. Are you rfving only the spaced form? Most other people posting to rfd are able to at least provide a more meaningful starting point for our understanding than just "weird shit". Hftf (talk) 16:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I assume WF was referring to the phrase senses, since there's nothing particularly weird about the adjective alt form sense. Can we find attestations of "hippity hoppity" used alone to mean "hippity hoppity get off my property" or "hippity hoppity X is property"? This, that and the other (talk) 23:15, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Since it is a meme term, a basic search into youtube gave me this:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkp3YL6New&pp=ygUPaGlwcGl0eSBob3BwaXR5 (x is property: thumbnail simply say hippity hoppity)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5LHeKw7yA (x is property: the reverse, the title only say hippity hoppity)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0JWm8jjypE (get off my property: the title only say hippity hoppity)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8RnN11cHiQ (get off my property: the title only say hippity hoppity)

ᛒᛚᚮᚴᚴᚼᛆᛁ ᛭ 𝔅𝔩𝔬𝔠𝔨𝔥𝔞𝔧 04:01, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

The YouTube title + description can be seen as a sort of stepped utterance, like unfolding a paper to read a joke's punchline. It isn't necessarily allowing one part of the phrase to exist without the other. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B07C:5007:5D44:C507 04:14, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Well, the bottom video sorta verifies it either way. ᛒᛚᚮᚴᚴᚼᛆᛁ ᛭ 𝔅𝔩𝔬𝔠𝔨𝔥𝔞𝔧 13:36, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Here is a very direct example with no clarification (time stamped): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2MPzVt3Hc8&t=1227s, regarding a man who "defended" his property from the government (get off my property). ᛒᛚᚮᚴᚴᚼᛆᛁ ᛭ 𝔅𝔩𝔬𝔠𝔨𝔥𝔞𝔧 04:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

betwixt and between

Adverb is defined as "neither here nor there", which means "irrelevant, immaterial", not "neither one thing nor the other". This seems to be somebody#s misunderstanding. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9116:E99E:727F:35C7 12:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Is this used with non-copulative verbs, ie, delete PoS? DCDuring (talk) 16:57, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Relatedly, I think it should have a Preposition section, which it currently does not. ("X happens betwixt and between Y and Z.") 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9178:5BE6:BDEA:EDD5 17:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

July 2025

intership

Tagged by @Woo19921206woo19921206 but not listed. Binarystep (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Lazy tagging by someone who didn't check at all. "Intership frequency", "intership channel" etc. are common in naval communications. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:173:E662:8997:244E 18:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

memeployed

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 14:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

ID

Noun: "(music) An electronic music track without an official title." How would this be used? What does it stand for? Any connection with ID3 tagging? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:5C9:9C1E:C592:E6BA 15:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

ID is either short for "identification" or stands for "in development" (different sources disagree about that) and is used on a tracklist when the song title and artist is unknown (or unable to be revealed). As far as I know, there is no connection with ID3 tagging. Nuclear Reactors (talk) 04:29, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

troop the colour

Uncapitalized proper noun added yesterday. J3133 (talk) 02:41, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

pseudography

Rfv-sense false writing, forgery --185.104.136.132 18:51, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Found and added 1 citation. Most uses are for the other sense (misspelling). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:99CF:F100:308A:414D 10:43, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

zaza

Gender-neutral parent (like papa/mama). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:99CF:F100:308A:414D 10:38, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

It does exist—you can find some examples with searches like google:"her zaza" papa, though not all of the results are this sense, many are the (nick)name Zaza—but I don't know how common it is. - -sche (discuss) 02:08, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

zori

Gender-neutral parent. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:99CF:F100:308A:414D 10:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

comered

Middle English; in the etymology of comrade since it was added by Dan Polansky in 2008 (< late {{ME.}} {{term|comered}}), with the edit summary “+etymology from Century 1911; +RT”. The OED, Etymonline, and Merriam-Webster all state it was first attested in the 16th century; the MED does not have an entry. The referenced Century Dictionary states, “Early mod. E. comerade, camarade (also camarado, camrado, after Sp. Pg.), < late ME. comered […]”, but I am requesting verification as it might in fact not be attested in Middle English. J3133 (talk) 04:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Not in w:Middle English Dictionary. DCDuring (talk) 17:49, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Removed by @Leasnam. J3133 (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

There is a late Middle English attestation of comered (c. 1488) in Plumpton Correspondence [An abbot writes to the father of his god-child] You, with my lades, your mother and your wife, my comered … [Signed] Your poore gossip and true lover, etc. but it seems to mean "god-mother". The etymology of comered is obscure, possibly from commare ("god-parent") + -red Leasnam (talk) 00:37, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

Telegu transliterations by User:Jaganeddala

avadia

In Google only as names, including a company. Telegu-English dictionary is used as a reference. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:12, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

chettangi

As above Chuck Entz (talk) 18:13, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

gandham

As above. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:13, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

antiblocker

Sense 2: "software that disrupts the activity of viruses etc. that try to block the activity of a computer". In my experience there are not many viruses that try to block activity: more often they cause damage by deleting files. I can't seem to find this word used in a software context (except possibly in relation to ad blockers, quite a different thing). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:5D6:19D8:A6C5:35CB 20:03, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

cetenarization

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 07:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Definition of cetenization and page created are based on the usage and spelling of the term on page 21 of the academic journal article at https://doi.org/10.1016/j.trpro.2023.11.107, feel free to verify. Definition is highly specific as I am not aware of it being used outside of specific context described, or prior to 2023, please add or expand as merited, especially if aware of other context(s) in which the word is in use.

Regards,

alexbarbershop Alexbarbershop (talk) 08:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

@Alexbarbershop: It’s misspelt from catenarization. The paper else uses catenary.

In mathematics one author used it, Compositio Mathematica 36(1) (1978), p. 84, in addition to catenaricity. Which is another sense, not maintained by a language community—but by a single author as his private language—, so we cannot include it either. Fay Freak (talk) 09:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Even in that one paper, the author puts it in scare quotes. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

calumpang

"a wild almond tree, of species Sterculia foetida, common in rural areas of the Philippines."

I haven't yet found it in running English text. I found nothing in Books for calumpangs. There are many hits for Calumpang, the place and the river, including attributive use thereof and some hits for the term in italics. If attested it would be nice to know whether the derivation flowed to or from the toponym or from an other, common source. DCDuring (talk) 16:52, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

unicorn

Rfv-sense Rare and hard to find.

Unicorns may be rare and hard to find, but does unicorn really get used as an adjective with that sense? Theknightwho (talk) 20:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

It is definitely used in that sense. But I belief that we are unlikely to be able to show that it is truly an adjective, meeting the tests. We probably should have a usex for the corresponding sense of the noun showing attributive use, eg, "unicorn startup" (founder, company, status). Less use about talented employees. DCDuring (talk) 21:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

overagent

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 18:37, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

The linked 1881 citation is so full of scannos that I can't locate the quoted portion, but I don't see how this supposed cited text could be a noun, or match the given definition: "Overagent, the heat of a candle, the spirit will fly up..." 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9848:FEF4:B25:3C6E 21:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I’ve restored the entry with three durably archived, verifiable citations (2015 US patent, 2025 LinkedIn usage, 2025 arXiv HTML line 1777) that satisfy WT:CFI. The earlier 1881 quotation has been removed after rechecking the OCR and confirming the term is not actually present.

An anonymous IP (2a00:23c5:fe1c:3701:ec26:1943:ce46:3469) keeps reverting these sourced edits without explanation. I’ll participate in the RFV discussion and won’t edit the page further until consensus is reached.

— HeloFriend (talk) 20:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

@HeloFriend The Piao quote is not real: the article actually reads "Pre-Simulation Configuration Agent Settings→ Agent Behavior Start". The word "over" is an indication that the words "Agent Settings" are to be positioned above the arrow. It's only present in the page HTML source.

As for the 2019 book, this is clearly outside the AI context.

And LinkedIn is hardly "durably archived". I'd want to see the word in at least a couple of scholarly articles (of which there are plenty on this subject). This, that and the other (talk) 06:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

transsexness

English. Extreme few hits. Chihunglu83 (talk) 09:11, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Nothing on Google Books or Scholar or Issuu. All I can find on the web is Reddit, Reddit, tumblr, DeviantArt. To play the devil's (or the entry's) advocate, AFAIK there's no doubt that the/a word for "the quality of being Foobar" is "Foobarness" and thus that this is the/a word for "the quality of being transsex specifically (rather than transsexual, etc)" even if it's very rare, and perhaps someone cares to argue that the 3+ web cites are enough. (OTOH, its transparency also means I don't think anyone is much disserved if we deem it too rare and don't have an entry.) - -sche (discuss) 18:50, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

perpetuing

Reposted with verified usage and public attestation in line with WT:CFI.

The term "perpetuing" is attested in:

1. A publicly released song titled "Perpetuing: Living Beyond the Fray", distributed via YouTube, Amazon, Spotify, and Apple Music.
2. A published 365-day devotional titled Perpetuing: Living Beyond the Fray (Amazon, 2025).
3. A published discipleship guide titled Perpetuing: A 12-Month Discipleship Journey (Amazon, 2025).

Each is independently archived via the Wayback Machine:

• [Song – Amazon](https://web.archive.org/web/20250709211228/https://www.amazon.com/music/player/tracks/B0FCCM6GD1)
• [Book 1 – Devotional](https://web.archive.org/web/20250709210709/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FDGNKBY1)
• [Book 2 – Discipleship Guide](https://web.archive.org/web/20250709210954/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FFT9VSFW)

Additionally, the word is used in contextual, non-title form in both books and in ministry-related correspondence (included in the Usage Examples section).

Seeking verification and confirmation for public inclusion. Thank you! BlessingOthers (talk) 22:20, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

From the above, it seems to be the name of a cult or self-help group. I suspect a spamming/advertising attempt. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8D65:C8C3:ADBB:E9DF 08:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review the entry.

Just to clarify — "Perpetuing" is not the name of a group, cult, or brand. It is a neologism with published usage in:

- A publicly available song on Amazon Music and YouTube

- Two Amazon-published devotional works

Each usage is archived via the Wayback Machine and was included in the entry as independent, verifiable public attestations in alignment with WT:CFI.

Additionally, the word is used within the books in non-title form to describe a spiritual posture — similar to words like “abiding” or “dwelling.” It is not promotional or product-based in nature.

This was a good-faith linguistic contribution to document a meaningful new participle in the English language. If more usage examples are needed, I’d be glad to provide them.

Appreciate your time and continued consideration.

BlessingOthers (talk) 18:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Our policy requires the three uses of the word to be independently authored (WT:CFI#Independent). Let's come back in a few years and see if the term has caught on. Wiktionary follows rather than leads. This, that and the other (talk) 23:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

I suspect LLM use in this comment, based on the Markdown use and its general structure. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that the AI slop epidemic has spread here too. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 09:34, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

pooltoy

Referring to furry pooltoy or pooltoy furry, but not in those collocations. DCDuring (talk) 15:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

milk powder

Sense 2: "(India) Cream." Really? The non-powder stuff like whipped cream, or what? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:C80B:C30D:63D2:64FE 22:40, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Maybe they ate thinking of cream being used to mean "powdered coffee creamer". DCDuring (talk) 12:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

do a dime

1. If you do a dime, you take a dump

There seems to be a slang term referring to serving a 10-year prison sentence, which may be SOP. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

To do a dime ("serve a 10-year prison sentence") would be SoP, IMO. The definition in place, looks like a language-learner dictionary definition of take a dump ("BM"). If dime can be shown to mean "BM" then it still looks SoP to me. DCDuring (talk) 11:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

If it exists, it may be along the lines of spend a penny. Chuck Entz (talk) 12:26, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Since nobody's said it yet, I'd like to hypothesize that this is a reference to the popular rhyme, often seen on bumper stickers,

My boss makes a dollar,

I make a dime.

That's why I poop

on company time.

(I've usually seen it with poop rather than more vulgar terms, at least on bumper stickers.) If so, the etymologies should probably be switched around. —Soap— 18:42, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

dry-cured

Adjective: "Preserved by means of salt."

It looks like a normal past participle to me. Evidence that it is a true adjective? DCDuring (talk) 14:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

hauf a tale is eneuch for a wise man

Scots. Riptyçç (talk) 21:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

aggro

Rfv-sense "Liable to attack without being attacked first (said of monsters)." This is definitely a noun and a verb, but I haven't heard or seen it used as an adjective in this way. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:38, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

I guess this is the sense used in phrases like google:"mobs are aggro to", google:"monster is aggro to", etc. It seems to be real, but I don't know if it's common. I leave citing it to someone else. - -sche (discuss) 02:01, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

On further inspection this exists outside of just games, with a somewhat more general definition. I have cited a generalized definition, I think. - -sche (discuss) 16:41, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

absolutely cinematic

I cannot find any attestations for this (and it also just seems to be an adjective formed from absolute cinema). People usually opt for the latter phrase instead. Sumxr (talk) 02:30, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

@Sumxr I just found some quotes when searching on Bluesky and I added them to the page. - Sebbog13 (talk) 06:40, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

bahne

Added as a synonym of sunglasses on 7 July by 2A0D:6FC2:4770:8E00:F305:C70D:65C6:6237, with the qualifiers “refer[r]ing to Ray[-]Bans” and “South African slang”. J3133 (talk) 19:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

big box

I question whether this word is actually a noun. It looks more like an adjective used to describe a type of store, e.g., "big box store". 174.138.212.166 00:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

Nouns in English act like adjectives all the time: "car keys" aren't "keys" that are "car". Chuck Entz (talk) 03:30, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

Are you challenging us to find 3 citations of "big boxes" referring to stores, plural? lmao. Well here's a start: [31]. Yes, it's used every day. (Captcha: "charsteak", sounds delicious.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:694A:9DE:B9DE:5043 05:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

I added citations based off of that search. When I originally searched for it without quotes, I only saw results for cardboard boxes that are big, and I always say it with the "store". 174.138.212.166 04:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

salacot

Rfv-sense: "a pith helmet"

It may have come to mean this, but evidence of such usage is scant. Most uses refer to hats worn in the Philippines, which are conical (or "mushroom-shaped") and made of cane or palm. Pedia seems to have been Equinox's source AFAICT. DCDuring (talk) 15:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

ecsplosion

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 18:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

Oxford study

(Internet slang, offensive) Used to berate Asian women who pursue romantic or sexual relationships with white men.

Lots of elements in need of attestation. DCDuring (talk) 23:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Phalian

(anthropology, Nazism) Of or relating to a postulated member of a subtype of the Caucasoid race.

Apparently a borrowing from German fälisch, which was sometimes used in race science in Nazi Germany, though the user who added it misspelled the German, so I'm not confident in this. Theknightwho (talk) 00:29, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be "a member of a postulated subtype", rather than "a postulated member of a subtype"? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:69BC:C45B:A406:5505 14:38, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

gay baby jail

Rfv-sense "(slang, video games) A softlock.". Gamren (talk) 02:28, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

• Deleted+failedVealhurl (talk) 21:42, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

OOMF

The phrase "one of my followers/friends", not the noun. I am challenging the phrase part of speech only. Look at the citations which are actually a noun with a plural. We need proof of a non-noun "phrase". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1A2:7E23:8A84:84D5 01:42, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

In addition, the derived OOMFie (noun) says it is a diminutive of OOMF (recently only phrase), but I don't know how a phrase would be diminutive. Hftf (talk) 04:19, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

cuzz

"A woman regarded as unattractive." As opposed to the clipping of "cousin". Compare Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English#i got 2 phones. - -sche (discuss) 19:20, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

gruzz

One's grandmother. I can find a few scattered instances online, but not in a consistent meaning: some gloss it as a girl bruzz, some gloss it as griefer huzz, some may mean grandmother, some seem to mean "God". Whether any one meaning is at all common remains to be demonstrated. - -sche (discuss) 19:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Generation Z stare

J3133 (talk) 08:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Potentially stupid question: If something is a "hot word" is there some thing that should be put someplace, apart from the {{hot word}} template? --Slowking Man (talk) 19:47, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

The template adds the page to a "Hot words category", which one depending on the date given it. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:20, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

@Slowking Man, JnpoJuwan: Searching Generation Z stare shows few Google results with only one page available. I suggest it be moved to Gen Z stare (like Gen Z shake). J3133 (talk) 04:02, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

 Support. Juwan (talk) 13:06, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

@J3133: Oh, okay, I see, yeah I have zero preference whatsoever. Put it at whatever the "proper" title is according to "the rules".

I was uncertain what the "right title" to use was; let me explain my thinking. I figured since "Generation Z" is a term in wide circulation, and is the "proper" full term, while "Gen Z" is a clipped form, that, for a term with "Gen Z" in it, the thing to do was to put the "main entry" for it at the "full" unabbreviated term, and put entries for the shortened forms pointing to the main entry. But if that's not the thing to do, then my mistake, be my guest in making everything nice and proper. --Slowking Man (talk) 06:12, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Caminus

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 17:03, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Taxon added. Other than the probably shared etymology, no connection. DCDuring (talk) 17:57, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

self-conscious

Specifically in the second sense: the quotation says that someone is as self-conscious as another person, which is just a reference to how self-conscious that person is, and not to some specific higher standard of "excessive" self-consciousness. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:19, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

I agree that the word "excessive" isn't totally apt. Without any further context, I'd think Nina is saying that Eileen pays a lot of attention to presenting herself in a particular way, just like Drina does.

In general, the three-way sense distinction we are making is probably valid, but all three senses would really benefit from illustrative quotes. This, that and the other (talk) 06:40, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

tulipomania

Sense 3: "Any asset bubble (such as a stock bubble), especially when the irony of human folly that it illustrates is being emphasized." 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8D1C:90E3:5FED:34E9 17:56, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

August 2025

Cuomo's paradox

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 09:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

One leo.norqueen on Instagram seems to have invented this [32]: the post calls it "a new medical concept named after my favorite scientist", and was published a few hours ago; there it is defined with regard to diet. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F849:AA67:5327:4A9D 10:04, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

It looks like this has also been discussed on Reddit forums and is based on a scientific article published by Cuomo in the Journal of Nutrition. I am also seeing usage in some Facebook groups, Quora, and a number of blogs such as this one [33]. 2607:F720:1900:C600:0:0:0:100 11:47, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

The above commenter is the creator of the article, so take it with a pinch of salt. I think this is part of the HAES (health at every size) clown joke. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:3156:1DC4:AF14:D226 19:31, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

Seems to have entered common usage: [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], [41], [42], [43], [44], [45], [46], [47] to cite partial list 2603:8001:5E00:5:3C62:8782:9BA4:B665 15:40, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Or very aggressively spammed by one person... 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7489:D339:A3D0:2F3A 21:02, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

These all feel like multiple people all reacting to the same paper. (Granted, I think people won't talk about this paper when 2026 rolls around.) CitationsFreak (talk) 08:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Hopefully. The Quora one (where somebody seems to be asking a question simply to slip the new term into discourse, and get it replied to and search-indexed) reminded me strongly of the Indian kid who tried to fill all sites and wikis with his "B____'s theorem" (I forget the name), which was a claimed Indian alternative to trigonometry, but didn't work in most cases. Perhaps I am over-suspicious... 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1816:631D:8F62:85C2 09:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Additional uses by NY Post [48], an academic article [49], San Diego Union Tribune [50], eCancer [51] 2603:8001:5E00:5:B563:BF91:1762:BE80 20:14, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Since this is based off of a new nutrition paper, hot word it and wait until '27. (Honestly, it being in the NY Post makes me feel like this should be in the dictionary, since a major print newspaper is covering it.) CitationsFreak (talk) 23:12, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

The Fine City

It appears on some T-shirts, but I doubt if it is actually used as a synonym for the country. — Sgconlaw (talk) 18:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

If kept, should be moved to Fine City ("def=1" can be used to produce "the"). By the way, "A Fine City" is or was a motto of Norwich, England. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7489:D339:A3D0:2F3A 21:01, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

sea toad

4 obscure fish names --185.104.136.29 18:52, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

The taxa and the English names are not obscure, except to benighted landlubbers. I cannot yet speak to attestability. DCDuring (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Though it may be possible to cite each individual taxon that was (previously) given a subsense, I have IMHO cited only the one taxon group which is named sea toad in Fishbase, iNaturalist, and WP. I have combined all the others and additional ones I found into what amounts to a non-gloss definition and provided cites accordingly. There are copious instance of sea toad in text or tables associated with specific taxa, but some find those too mentiony. I don't think other dictionaries do, but what do they know? DCDuring (talk) 23:09, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

espressospeak

espresso-speak

I couldn't find uses outside the NYT article. Einstein2 (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I found 3 quotes with the hyphenated form espresso-speak and have added them. Netizen3102 (talk) 16:10, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

@Netizen3102: I have moved them to the hyphenated form. J3133 (talk) 05:35, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, although I don't see widespread online usage with either form, so two uses in durably archived texts are still needed. Einstein2 (talk) 13:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

farseer

“Television” sense, added on 20 September 2024 by 206.223.148.12. J3133 (talk) 15:50, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

sluds

also RFVed with slugs. --81.144.235.66 18:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

• Failed Vealhurl (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

eyethurl

Requesting verification of “purism”. As noted at Wiktionary:Tea room/2025/August § eyethurl by Soap, we “have a humorous label to accomodate those other uses”, but humorousness is currently the only use. I also noted that bellibone (another word from Poplollies and Bellibones) is from French, making purism less likely. J3133 (talk) 05:50, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

do the power of good

alt. form of do a power of good.

I don't believe it, nor does any other OneLook reference. Nor could I find it in any Google Books that allowed preview or better. DCDuring (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

I do believe it and in fact I'm surprised it's not the main form of the expression. It's extremely easy to find hits for 'do/did/doing me/you/him/her/us/them the power of good' on Google Books and elsewhere. I'm surprised that the earliest usage I could find of such a phrase with a definite rather than indefinite article, though in this case we do only have a snippet view, is this example of 'doing us the power of good' from 1988[52]. The forms with 'a' ('do/did/doing me/you/him/her/us/them a power of good') do seem to be more prevalent and older - 'done me a power of good' appears in 1845 here[53] and 1847 here[54]. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

I read some of the instances that I found of the collocation [do] [PRON] the power of good as SoP. I think that a power of is a synonym of a lot of, whereas the power of is not, at least not in my idiolect. To me the power of seems like an error for a power of where it is not SoP. All of these seem more like the usual kind of variations of do someone good/do somebody good you would expect. BTW I added some citations for use of a power of with nouns other than good. (talk) 14:01, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

seatbelt situation

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 19:46, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

gawk

Rfv-sense "cuckoo". Zacwill (talk) 05:04, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Cited with an expanded definition (2 for the cuckoo, 2 for any gawky bird, 1 ambiguous), but if someone could find a third cite for one or both birds we could split them into separate senses. - -sche (discuss) 14:42, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

BlueMAGA

Tagged with {{citation needed}} (not used on Wiktionary) by 2402:8100:3943:F147:2D33:4BF6:1AF2:A4BE with the edit summary “Sounds wrong, uncited”. J3133 (talk) 11:49, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

concession-contraexpectation

Is real but not sure about this definition. Maybe cites will clarify. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7489:D339:A3D0:2F3A 20:54, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

siliculose

Rfv-sense husky --81.144.235.66 04:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Probably not distinct from the preceding sense(s) even if it exists. (TBD, I suppose.) - -sche (discuss) 01:47, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

• Failed Vealhurl (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Dutch boy

Sense: “(slang) A man with many lesbian friends.” Added on 10 March by Uglytriangle999. J3133 (talk) 05:18, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

I managed to add seven citations, six from Usenet. Quito0567epicc (talk) 01:07, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

• RFV-passed. Ultimateria (talk) 19:59, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

autmisia

Tumblr-only term? Protologism? — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 15:20, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

There's a ton of these entries: queermisia and fatmisia have citations but acemisia does not. -misia is the new -phobia? 109.149.86.89 09:39, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

I think these (and a few early ones, like 1950s iatromisia) are in response to the whining from certain quarters that "phobia means fear!". - -sche (discuss) 18:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

I can find miscellaneous (user-generated / social-media / wordpress) websites using this (and a few using the maybe more euphonic form autimisia), probably enough that this could technically pass if someone wanted to put in the effort to collect them, but it's too rare to seem worth it to me, personally; there are no News hits, nothing in magazines/newspapers on Issuu, AFAICT, nor anything on Google Scholar yet. - -sche (discuss) 18:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

onde

Though both the lemma onde and the alternate forms provided (aand, aynd, etc.) are found in the OED and EDD, examination of these sources reveals them to belong to what Wiktionary classes as Middle English, Middle Scots, or Scots rather than English. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 12:48, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

and

This obviously applies to Etymologies 2 and 3 ("breath, to breath") rather than the conjunction (Etymology 1); see the RFV for onde, which this is really a collateral form of. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 13:05, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

onding

Etymology 1 ("breathing, exhalation"). Yet another word of dubious Modern English currency; this shouldn't be converted into enm if this RFV fails since there's already a Middle English entry at ondyng(e). Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 13:13, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

4 hits in EEBO, but 2 are clearly scannos and the other 2 also look like scannos. The EDD only has ety/sense 2, a downpour. - -sche (discuss) 19:11, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Whatsapp

J3133 (talk) 11:03, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

• Really dull RFV! I found 0 Vealhurl (talk) 20:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Ureign

- -sche (discuss) 20:36, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

This word appears in SMCHIA media, see https://suprememastertv.com for more attested examples! Baokhang48812002 (talk) 11:31, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

(Note: same coiner and same entry creator as godses, below.) - -sche (discuss) 22:51, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

The only uses I can find are of a personal name, or part of one, not "Ukraine". - -sche (discuss) 20:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

godses

Cite suggests a one-off invention/mention by a minor cultist. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E9CB:FA9B:6AD8:D7E8 11:02, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

But look at https://suprememastertv.com for more examples, it is well-attested in Quan Yin media, as well as Supreme Master Television. Baokhang48812002 (talk) 11:31, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

(Note: same coiner and same entry creator as Ureign, above.) - -sche (discuss) 22:52, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, the Supreme Master Ching Hai have created them, states the Supreme Master Television staff.

Regarding godses, the television staff states: "As the Original Universe doesn't have gods and goddesses, Supreme Master Ching Hai created the neutral term "Godses" in speaking of the beings in Original Universe." Baokhang48812002 (talk) 01:51, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Tatooine

Planet in Star Wars. A term within the universe: WT:FICTION applies. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E9CB:FA9B:6AD8:D7E8 20:26, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Discussion moved from WT:RFDE#Tatooine.

WT:FICTION is for RfV. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 20:40, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Cited. DAVilla 04:15, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

jim

Rfv-sense

(informal) To jimmy (something); to mess up or mess with (something)

Added by @Mazzlebury — This unsigned comment was added by 2A06:C701:4EC1:8500:C998:8EC9:7CE4:C740 (talk) at 21:45, 17 August 2025 (UTC).

mercuriousness

2 quotes. We need 3. WTF is mercurious anyhoo? Vealhurl (talk) 16:19, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

They're not great, but I added two more to the cites page. (The first one is questionable, but the second one is this sense.) The NED defines this as "the condition of being like Mercury (in celerity)". - -sche (discuss) 17:32, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

bede

Rfv-sense verbs - all quotes in Middle English. Might wanna look at the nouns too... Vealhurl (talk) 19:04, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

• Failed mining noun Riptyçç (talk) 12:19, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Yharnam

WT:FICTION — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Oreo Namaz

All of the ghits are in Serbo-Croatian. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 15:26, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

colores

This seems to be a plural of archaic colore instead of color, although -es is also possible. J3133 (talk) 09:09, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

I have added colore. J3133 (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

dight

Rfv 3 old senses Vealhurl (talk) 21:47, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

size roll

Tagged in August 2025 Vealhurl (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

• Failed after 5 months of inaction/intense quotehunting Vealhurl (talk) 13:52, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
  • Should not be failed. There are many GBooks hits for "a size roll". We have too few volunteers working on RFV and they should not be closed by Wonderfool. ~2026-16952-9 (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Agreed. Unstroke Unstrick Unstrack... — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 07:55, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

wampee

Rfv-sense Pontederia Vealhurl (talk) 21:51, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

This does seem to be real. I added some cites. - -sche (discuss) 22:00, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

perception

Rfv-sense vision Tagged in 2025 Vealhurl (talk) 21:53, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

lolishota

Tagged in 2025 Vealhurl (talk) 21:54, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

megameter

Rfv-sense micrometer. Tosh?Vealhurl (talk) 21:54, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Added by Equinox, who is not known for his tosh. He's no longer pingable but he prowls around these pages sometimes, so might see this. This, that and the other (talk) 03:04, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Check the linked references in the entry. It's from Knight's American Mechanical Dictionary (thence quoted in the Webster 1913 dictionary). I recall Knight's terms being hard to cite on the whole, but if you search GBooks for megameter and micrometer together, there are some possibly promising hits. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:844C:8B54:317E:2F83 18:47, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

horonym

Tagged in 2024 Vealhurl (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Cites easily found in the plural at Google Books. DCDuring (talk) 15:21, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

chee

furry term :( Vealhurl (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

fulminate

Rfv-sense act as lightningVealhurl (talk) 21:56, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Appears in OED with cites that I can't read. DCDuring (talk) 14:58, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Modern OED merges figurative with more literal uses. For example: 1861, J. G. Sheppard, Fall of Rome p. 164, "It was on the latter body that the bolt of Roman vengeance first fell, and it was as sudden and as terrible in its effects as if it had really fulminated from the throne of Capitolian Jove."[55] Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:23, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

stalder

Just in dialect dictionaries? --2A02:C7E:2069:C800:84CB:6DC9:B66E:CC4D 08:36, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Cited IMHO one sense from reprinted old inventories of house contents. DCDuring (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

• Kept+failed other Vealhurl (talk) 22:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

white sole

Rfv-senses: flatfish species of the North Atlantic, 2 species below not found under this name in Fishbase, which is used for another flatfish species.

1. "Glyptocephalus cynoglossus (witch flounder)"
2. "Lepidorhombus whiffiagonis (megrim)"

Fishbase is very inclusive of vernacular names, but they might have missed something. DCDuring (talk) 16:43, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

white sole = Glyptocephalus cynoglossus appears to be (or have been?) a thing, see Citations:white sole; there's even a book titled "On a Young Stage of White Sole, Pleuronectes (Glyptocephalus) Cynoglossus". (Wikipedia says it's also called grey sole / gray sole.) - -sche (discuss) 01:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

It looks like this was a name used in Ireland a century or so ago: here is a reference to Megrim (under an obsolete synonym) that says: This is the flatfish with the big mouth, commonly sold to the unwary as white sole", and here it mentions the name being used in Dublin. Apparently the other "white sole" had a higher market value. It may be that attempts to stamp out this allegedly fraudulent usage have kept it out of FishBase. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Fishbase is an excellent source of info, labeling terms used for taxa by language (translations for us!), region, and something close to usage context ("vernacular", "market", etc). But I guess it is not definitive for our purposes. I looks like the G. cynoglossus sense is passed. Is it "dated"?

The rfv-sense tag for the "megrim" definition remains. DCDuring (talk) 14:36, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

The megrim sense is now cited. We could also add the following two cites to the citations page if needed ([56] (“megrim(white sole), hake and dogfish”) and[57](“Hake, anglerfish(monkfish), megrim(white sole)”) but they aren’t independent of the others as they’re also published by the Shanklin Island Research Station and the OECD respectively. The reference to both Shanklin Island (in County Cork) and Dublin in the two references I’ve added suggests to me it’s purely an Irish term. It was a while ago that I created this entry, without references, after seeing that ‘witch’ could refer to a type of fish in a cryptic crossword, I did search Google Books before creating it but I can’t remember which pages I looked at now. Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

There are several other hits referencing its various old names ‘Pleuronectes/Lepidorhombus/Rhombus Megastoma’ and Ireland if you do an advanced Google book search for ‘Megastoma (white sole)’ too. Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:23, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Two of the cites look like mentions to me, a common problem with less-common organism names. DCDuring (talk) 13:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

You’re right and even the passages I can find using the old species name ‘Megastoma’ for the megrim and equating it with ‘white sole’ are mentions (though there are a vast number of them). Also, ‘white sole’ is occasionally equated with ‘lemon sole’ or with the old binomial for lemon sole ‘Platessa Pola’ but that seems to be only mentions too. We could create lemon dab (which appeared in the Times cryptic crossword today) as a synonym of lemon sole without any issues though. Failed. Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

twiglit

Searched for a twiglit on regular Google; found a lot of “twig-lit”. The creator, Samxsag (talk), says this is not a misspelling. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 21:19, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Switch

Console brand name (not a nickname, but the actual name of the product). Must be cited to meet WT:BRAND. Mega Drive was deleted previously. I know Wiktionarians love their video games, but we do not generally include brand names of, say, motor cars, even though (like "Nintendo Switch" to "Switch") "Sierra Sapphire" could be shortened to "Sapphire". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:844C:8B54:317E:2F83 17:49, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

kirat

Second sense: "eye deformity". If real, presumably should be split into its own etymology, as I see no link with the unit of measure. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E9BA:793B:398B:1D0C 14:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

wye

Etymology 2 ("man, hero, warrior"). Neither the MED or OED appear to record any Modern English attestations in this form. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 08:54, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

• Failed. Nothing anywhere else either. Vealhurl (talk) 21:23, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

diaperbrained

About 10 Google hits (unhyphenated). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E138:6CFA:2D5B:CEAF 14:42, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Did you type it in correctly and disable safe search? I get 1,825 ghits. Either way, I have added five attests. There are a couple hundred Tweets and posts on Bluesky with this word. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 15:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Can we close this as it has been cited? LunaEatsTuna (talk) 03:29, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

adequate intake

The definition given is kinda unexpected, I would have said it was an "intake" that is "adequate" and therefore SOP. 83.151.229.56 09:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Looks suspiciously like an effort to thereby avoid deletion via RfD. DCDuring (talk) 20:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

The definition looks more like a description of how it is measured. That is how many things are defined: units of length, mass, time, force, etc. I am not sure that the definition given reflects an attestable consensus on measurement method. DCDuring (talk) 20:53, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

ringdent

Could someone please walk me through the process of verifying this word? I’m relatively new to Wiktionary. I’ve read the instructions but I’m a little confused by the “durably archived attestation” criterion. The page describing what that means says that the Internet Archive doesn’t count, but how does one find physical attestations for a word that’s exclusively used online? I see a lot of rare, niche words on Wiktionary that seem to have no “durable” citations because they’re exclusively used online, such as “twinkhon”, but they don’t have request for verification tags.

In any case, I’ll list below several online citations for the word “ringdent” (one of which includes a photograph of the physical plaque at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in Washington D.C. which bears the word), but I’m not sure if they’ll suffice even though they meet all the criteria except durability. Any guidance would be appreciated!

https://web.archive.org/web/20250830133544/https://www.si.edu/object/diamond:nmnhmineralsciences_1004365

https://web.archive.org/web/20250425190516/https://www.hawaiijewelrybuyers.com/product/12-6g-14kwg-10ct-ice-jade-1-80ctw-diamonds-ring-pendant-size-5-5/

https://web.archive.org/web/20250830132947/https://www.underwoodjewelers.com/product/underwoods-estate190005637/ Pterodac (talk) 14:10, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

If it's a blend, why is it ringdent and not ringdant? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1C59:5CDE:3FFF:C99B 18:19, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Pterodac we do have an online-only criterion, so if you (or someone else) can gather various attestations and format them as outlined in WT:", we may be able to pass this term.

"Physical" attestations of words are so unusual that I'm not aware we have a precedent for dealing with them. In general I would prefer to see a freely-licensed photo of the physical attestation uploaded to Commons, but I can accept this might not be possible given the various copyright issues that exist (and, in this case, perhaps even photography restrictions in the venue). From my part I'd have little hesitation in treating the Wayback Machine's archive of the Smithsonian's website as a durably archived online source. This, that and the other (talk) 23:29, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Altered images will be a potential problem. I hope that and wonder how Commons addresses or will address that. That certainly is beyond our current capability and is probably best delegated to them. DCDuring (talk) 14:12, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, I can find one use of ringdant, the etymologically expected spelling (as Equinox pointed out above), in a book (plus two more books where the term occurs in regard to the same jeweller, and some books, such as this one, that have the spelling ringdent instead). I can find both spellings online. Does anyone know an equivalent of Google Books Ngram Viewer for web results? Google Trends seems to be concerned with which one is more often searched for, not which one returns more results. - -sche (discuss) 01:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

arachnerd

I found some uses with a different meaning: [58] [59] [60] Ioaxxere (talk) 16:30, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

mump

Rfv-sense A cube of peat; a spade's depth of digging turf Vealhurl (talk) 08:45, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

radipraxy

This entry was created by a now-redlinked user, who never contributed anything else, the definition seems rather meaningless and all pages mentioning it scraped it from wiktionary I think.
Suryaratha03 (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

RFV-failed. Marking for deletion. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 22:36, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

September 2025

borrowing

Sense 2: slang, crime, euphemistic: shoplifting. Oddly added under the verb; should perhaps be under the noun heading, if real. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1C59:5CDE:3FFF:C99B 18:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

I can easily see ‘borrow’ being an obvious euphemism for ‘steal’ with ‘borrowing’=‘shoplifting’ being an extension of that but it’s hard to find. I can find “If a criminal ‘borrows’ your keys” here[61]. It reminds me a bit of when Father Ted said that the money was ‘sitting in his account’. Overlordnat1 (talk) 01:37, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

superroyal

Adj sense 2: "Beyond the royal rank; being greater than or beyond royal; exceptionally royal." I can't find this in Google Books, but only the paper size. (The sole instance of "superroyal authority" turned out to be a column-break scanno.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8CD7:82A3:95F:5885 09:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Sarsar

OED has only two quotations, one of them with a different spelling in a translation from French, and both with initial capital suggesting a proper name. The definition with "whistles" is also suspicious. The two quotations define Sarsar identically as "the icy wind of death". Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Fascinating. Archive.org has various books using "a Sarsar"", including "We sent upon them a Sarsar wind in days of calamity", "from whose waste Wilderness of Darkness blew a Sarsar ", "...Ulysses smiles, / Ended is hale and moan. A Sarsar blew; thy sumptuous...", and "[by] legend they were caught up out of Paradise by a Sarsar wind and whirled... ". It seems that the Quran mentions a "Sarsar" wind and there is uncertainty over what specifically that means, whether a strongly blowing wind, a cold wind, a wind that makes a furious sound, or a wind with all of these attributes; apparently (at least in English texts) "cold" and "piercing/violent" have become the accepted attributes. Many of the books that capitalize it are older Books doing the thing of capitalizing all Nouns or Important Words, but why it is capitalized in modern books which refer countably to "a Sarsar", or books which refer to "Sarsars" plural, I don't know; you must be right that they take it to be a proper name, in the same way a lot of books capitalize the Harmattan, the Sirocco, etc. (There are a few lowercase cites, e.g. [62].) In any event, it's citable from the books I've linked. We could probably redefine it as "A cold and piercing, sometimes whistling, wind." or just "A cold and piercing wind.", possibly qualified like "in Arabic contexts" or "in Arabic-speaking areas" or something. - -sche (discuss) 19:32, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

igpay

Discussion moved from RFDE.

Both senses. Per Chuck Entz: “Looks like straightforward Pig Latin to me, even when it's used to refer to police officers. Considering that there is at least one Pig Latin counterpart to pretty much every word in the English language, we shouldn't even get started on Pig Latin entries.” Moved to RfV per consensus as users are seeking quotations that use igpay alongside non-Pig Latin text, e.g. Smurrayinchester's “I'm not opposed to words derived from Pig Latin, where they occur in running English sentences not otherwise written in Pig Latin - I think there's a difference between "erehay omecay the igpays" and "Here come the igpays".” LunaEatsTuna (talk) 01:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Yep. Another one for police is ecilop, which comes from a wider "back-slang" but has entered everyday English to some extent. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:981B:1EF5:4A85:16FE 12:39, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

doucker

7 dialectal names for birds! Good luck! Vealhurl (talk) 07:44, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Another drive-by tagging from the guy who never does any work. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:4CCF:4633:85D8:DEAE 06:19, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

True point, that. Absolutely never does any work. Vealhurl (talk) 08:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Except putting in the 8-hour day incorrectly rephrasing entries to lose their nuance. THANKS I GUESS. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BCF9:73AD:E031:ACB2 19:22, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

There are 3+ instances of doucker in descriptions of birds mentioning the names the bird is known by. Whether these are mentions or uses only the shadow knows. Strict rules aside, I'm confident the name is or was real. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

OED combines the spellings dokare (possibly Middle English), douker, doucker, ducker, and dooker. The specific form douckers is found at J. Ray, Wisdom of God 107. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:23, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

atheed

Should we really include Anglish, which is after all a conlang and not a natural English variant? Mårtensås ᛭ Proto-Norsing ᛭ AMA 23:40, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

It certainly has lots of proponents because this kind of stuff is always being added. Is there a "made-up Anglish Wiktionary" we could deflect them to? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:4CCF:4633:85D8:DEAE 06:18, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

i think whether we consider Anglish as a conlang or not should be contingent on how the discussion about eyethurl at the Tea Room (here) turns out. if we decide that the amply cited eyethurl is Anglish, then our definition of Anglish is much broader in scope than how I think of it, and I would say it cannot be a language of its own, and thus not a conlang. —Soap— 14:14, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

I think it's clearly ==English== — it's a movement to replace the non-native parts of English with native English (as in waterstuff), just like most linguistic purisms we face, e.g. from some Turkish editors. Just like with ==Turkish== linguistic purism, the question is whether it's attested. If it is attested, we check how commonly and stick the appropriate labels on it (e.g. "nonstandard", "Anglish" and, if applicable, "rare" or "uncommon"). BTW, procedurally (so they're deleted if not attested) let me say I consider all the alt forms to also be part of this RFV: athede, ithede, itheed, ythede, ytheed. - -sche (discuss) 18:07, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

line of seven

It's hard to make sense of this entry: does it refer to a single grade, or a line of them? Why is the plural line of sevens and not "lines of seven"? The singular is hard to search for, given the number of instances of "line of seven [x]", where [x] can be almost anything. I suspect this is SOP, since the meaning seems to reside in "seven" as a term for a score in the 70's- but the entry is too unclear to be sure. The alleged plural is very rare- only in a few places online, and hard to distinguish from "line of" + "sevens". I wasn't sure what to do with this, so I decided to rfv it. Feel free to modify this or move it to rfd. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:13, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

I searched Google for "line of seven" "philippines" school and found some uses: [63]; [64]; [65]. The plural was obviously wrong and I have removed it. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8523:8CF6:1D08:1239 20:17, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Heads up that if this gets deleted, please also include line of 7 and line of 7s. For what it's worth, it's trivial to find a few uses of "line of 7s" in regards to Filipino education. I am too ignorant about Filipino English to know if this is a thing or should be kept or deleted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:36, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Could one have a line of eight/nine/six? We could ask our contributors in Tagalog, Cebuano or other Philippine languages about this. DCDuring (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for not being so active in this thread. "Line of 7" is a common slang term in the Philippines regarding the grade level, so it is more documented in spoken speech rather than written, whether it is online or not. That's why I put it there. As for "line of [any other number]", they are not well-attested, so I did not make it a thing. Plus, "line of seven" has been specifically attested in various online forums like here, here, here, here, and they are all in Philippine education-related topics, so I highly doubt that Philippine students are not generally aware of this topic.

Although thank you for deleting the incorrect plural as hearing "line of sevens" was only based on personal experience (the sources don't pluralize it). JekyllTheFabulous (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Iptard

"One who has little or no intelligence." Also please check capitalisation. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8523:8CF6:1D08:1239 20:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Failed, and ought to have been months ago. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 14:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

scibidi

Term is not in widespread use. Quotations provided are not durably archived. --Thegoofhere (talk) 21:30, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

It did previously pass RFV (wrongly, then?). See talk page. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8523:8CF6:1D08:1239 21:33, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

i would like to call attention to the pronunciation, too, which might be a leftover from the Italian ifnromation that was on the page in early 2024. —Soap— 23:34, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

sweetwort

Rfv-sense sweet tasting plant. Everything I found is related to brewing --90.160.107.3 07:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

For the brewing sense our def. says "fermented", MWOnline and one other say "unfermented". DCDuring (talk) 18:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

I see no evidence that sweetwort is the result of fermentation, rather than a feedstock for it.

IMHO the challenged sense is cited. I suspect that the term was also used for licorice/liquorice. DCDuring (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

• Passed. Vealhurl (talk) 22:24, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

we don't talk about Bruno

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:46, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

If real, needs a move to we don't talk about Bruno (capital B). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:DDDB:158B:719B:8BCE 07:19, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

technomancy

Sense 2: "The combination of magic and technology." BTW, this whole entry sounds like science fiction and so I don't know whether the "occult" category should really be on it. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:DDDB:158B:719B:8BCE 11:12, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

cenzontli

English alt. spelling of cenzontle ("northern mockingbird").

Lots of books hits in Spanish. DCDuring (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

logfile

Brought up in the talk page, and from a surface look, I agree. Is this only used in fields that do not allow spaces, e.g., file names? — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 23:36, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

I see it a lot in sysadmin contexts. For example, from the pflogd manual for FreeBSD 14.3: "pflogd closes and then re-opens the log file when it receives SIGHUP, permitting newsyslog(8) to rotate logfiles automatically. SIGALRM causes pflogd to flush the current logfile buffers to the disk, thus making the most recent logs available." Note spaced and unspaced spellings in the same paragraph. In more "durable" form,[66] "The log file option can be used to set the name of the logfile to another location." Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:00, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Cited, see it all the time in IT work. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B5BB:F9F5:7CF6:B0BB 12:36, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

• RFV-passed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

chromoblast

Exists, but I think Webster got the biology wrong. I'm no expert, though. Perhaps chromoplast and ertythroblast are same/similar things? Vealhurl (talk) 14:54, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not that great at cell biology, but the chromo- here is the same as in chromosome, and has to do with certain structures picking up the stain used to prepare samples for viewing under a microscope. Fungi and fungus-like organisms have stages where there are no membranes separating the individual cells and you have lots of nuclei together- so these are intracellular structures. Here is a description of chromoblasts in the context of Saprolegnia, which describes what they are in the terminology of a century ago. Perhaps someone with more background in cell biology can translate this into modern terminology. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:59, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

nersick

See Wiktionary:Tea room/2025/September § On nersick. J3133 (talk) 03:37, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Woctor

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:53, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Norland

Rfv-sense A Norlander; a person from the north. Supposedly Scottish English. Vealhurl (talk) 12:01, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

• Changed to ScotsVealhurl (talk) 13:50, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

moabi

An African tree. Can we get enough evidence to show it is part of English, what the plural is, and where it is used (eg, Nigeria?, South Africa?)? DCDuring (talk) 14:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Cited, I think. - -sche (discuss) 00:13, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

tetanin

A poisonous base (ptomaine) formed in meat broth by a microbe from the wound of a person who has died of tetanus. From Webster 1913 dictionary. A very strange concept. Why would 19th century chemists be analysing meat broth poisoned with the wounds of tetanus sufferers, anyway? Whatever the reason, I hope Hollywood makes a film about it. Threatenin' with Tetanin is a good title. Lexicographically speaking, OED has entry for tetanine. Good luck --90.160.107.91 15:43, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Easily citable from Google Books. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:52, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

• Failed. Cites are not found, or findable. Vealhurl (talk) 22:27, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

  A little too eager again? I looked on Google Books and it checks out. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 02:59, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

should

Rfv-sense to make a statement of what ought to be true, as opposed to reality, which conjugates as a regular verb: should, shoulds, shoulding, shoulded.

I suspect this may be referring to should on (“to impose judgment on (oneself or others) by telling them what they should do”), which also uses the regular conjugation, since it's a denominal verb from should (“an utterance of should”, noun). Theknightwho (talk) 02:17, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Interesting. I can find a lot of cites of people shoulding other people (without on) where the meaning seems to be ~"to suggest (that someone do something) by saying they should (do the thing)", and have tentatively added that meaning. I can also find a few cites (e.g. the 2024 and 2019 cites here) where the meaning is more abstract, less concerned with commanding a specific individual, and I can see how they could be interpreted as using the definition above, though it's tricky because they could also be interpreted as the "suggest" sense. - -sche (discuss) 03:21, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

I have expanded sense 2. I think sense 1 can be deleted in favour of sense 2. - -sche (discuss) 21:50, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Have you seen any intransitive use? DCDuring (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind. It seems to be both transitive and intransitive. Should on seems like should + on, with on head of a prep. phrase. Should on sometimes seems intended to allude to shit on. This non-modal should seems particularly common in self-help books. DCDuring (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

fried egg

Sense: “(Wikimedia jargon) A collocation which is not idiomatic; sum of parts.” Added by VexVector; I have already removed the Wiktionary sense from sum of parts because it previously failed RfV. J3133 (talk) 04:50, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't think I've even heard anyone say this on Wiktionary (*Delete, this is a clear fried egg)... This, that and the other (talk) 06:32, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

focus pocus

See Wiktionary:Tea room/2025/September § focus pocus (“the definition in the entry doesn't seem to exist”). J3133 (talk) 04:56, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

compt

Rfv-sense neat; spruce Vealhurl (talk) 13:59, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

swallow-wort

Rfv-senses (2):

"Calotropis spp. (giant milkweed).

Euphorbia maculata (spotted spurge)."

I tried the convenient taxonomic sources, which usually over-include vernacular names, without success. There are several other taxa with vernacular names including swallow-wort. Occurrence in running text is scarce. "Calotropis gigantea" is probably citable as a definition. DCDuring (talk) 19:46, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

A little background: celandine, Chelidonium majus, is the original swallow-wort, and one of its iconic characteristics is the yellow latex it produces. It has a long history as a medicinal herb, so just about any plant with similar traditional uses and milky sap tends to be named after it somewhere or other. In the Americas the names hierba golondrina and hierba golondrinera overlap somewhat, since both golondrina and chelidonia have words for swallows in their etymologies and sound like they should be related somehow. You can see this at work here (Chamaesyce maculata and Euphorbia maculata are the same plant). You'll have better luck if you target works on medicinal plants and/or plants in folklore, though it may be hard to pin things down to a specific taxon. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:48, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

hexahectaenneacontakaiheptagons

Removed from the singular by @Vox Sciurorum with the edit summary, “the plural may not exist, nor should it because there is only one known instance of this concept”. J3133 (talk) 05:52, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

One can speak of hypotheticals ("if there were two Parises") so that is poor logic. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F964:38DE:F1EC:9F85 09:28, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

And if people write about two Parises in citable places, the plural page can exist. We accept all manner of barbarisms, irrationalities, hypotheticals, and stupid memes. We do not invent them. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:47, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

The argument is indeed nonsense. Anyone can draw a hexahectaenneacontakaiheptagon, or even several hexahectaenneacontakaiheptagons, if they wish to. GIS software makes this especially easy to do, even unintentionally.

As for verification, if the plural is not found we could change the headword line of the singular to {{en-noun|!}}, although that seems overly pedantic to me ("descriptivism gone mad!"), as it's blatantly obvious that this is the correct and valid plural. This, that and the other (talk) 09:43, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

That's what I did. The singular page now says plural not attested. If you find the plural in suitable places the exclamation mark should be removed. Otherwise the plural page should be removed. I did look for a plural. Perhaps I should have looked for other silly plural forms to go with a silly word. Should it be spelled -goni as psuedo-Latin although the -gon comes from Greek? -gones to align with the plural of harpagon? Whoever uses it gets to decide. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:47, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

@This, that and the other, Vox Sciurorum: Added quotations from social media and a site. J3133 (talk) 11:01, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

coordinance

Rfv-sense joint ordinance, whatever that means. There's a technical meaning other dictionaries are missing (above my paygrade). Vealhurl (talk) 07:56, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

An ordinance is a decree so a joint one would be a decree issued by two people etc. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:F964:38DE:F1EC:9F85 09:28, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

Oceanian

Rfv-sense in fiction. Probably fails WT:FICTION (which I haven't read in a while TBF Vealhurl (talk) 21:18, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

As indicated in the etymology, this term is not used in the novel itself. Also compare Gothamite (sense 3), Narnian, Ozite, etc. J3133 (talk) 04:28, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

@-sche: It was mentioned in Talk:BroShep that it was kept because it “originated outside fiction”. As Oceanian, like BroShep, was also already cited before the RfV began (as you wrote in Talk:BroShep), does WT:FICTION apply? Note: this RfV is for the noun, but both the noun and the adjective are not used in the novel, hence it is not apparent why it would apply to only the noun. In addition to ones I mentioned above, we also have Discworlder, Gileadean (although this one does appear in the original work), Hogwartian, and Sanditonian. I have also now created Mordorian. It should be made clear whether these are fit for inclusion rather than nominating them individually. J3133 (talk) 18:10, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm only one editor, but my understanding is that if this term is not used in the work of fiction, but was instead coined outside of it by other people, then FICTION doesn't apply (for better or worse!). As I said in the BroShep discussion, there are certainly odd edge cases as a result of the current policy, but that's something people should discuss in the BP if they want to change the policy. - -sche (discuss) 03:34, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

codding

Rfv-sense lustful. OED only finds it in Shakespeare, as do I. Vealhurl (talk) 07:25, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree with the findings. Failed and removed ~2025-33291-61 (talk) 17:58, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

cogman

OED only has 1 quote, which is in (Middle?) French...Vealhurl (talk) 07:37, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

Right. I found nothing else. Failed ~2025-33291-61 (talk) 18:11, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

oppilation

Rfv-sense The act of crowding or filling together Vealhurl (talk) 12:47, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

comparation

Rfv-sense A making ready; provision. Just old dictionaries? Vealhurl (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Not attested. Failed ~2026-12941-7 (talk) 09:57, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

tournure

Rfv-sense "turn, contour, figure". Not very specific --90.160.107.9 07:30, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

It means the shape or outline of something, e.g. (found in GBooks) "tournure of a statue". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9591:C2DF:B80A:1214 11:47, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

GOAK

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:10, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

aerophobia

Rfv-sense Fear of heights. Was stagnating at RFD for 18 months Vealhurl (talk) 19:14, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

quasi

The quotes just show usage as a prefix, but they misspell it and don’t hyphenate it. This is definitely not an adjective, and I don’t believe it behaves like an adverb? Maybe this could mean sending to RfV, but idk. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 19:33, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I would send to RfV to see if this could be a word like semi (derived from semi-) is. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Discussion moved from WT:RFDE#quasi.

humbas

Tagged by Mlgc1998 yesterday but not listed, with the edit summary “Regardless, a single quotation from the end of a blog article that doesn't even span a whole year, and even looks more like an example of a misspelling isn't enough attestation”, who has previously deleted it, stating, “this plural form doesnt^[sic] make much sense. humba ends with a glottal stop. it would be unnatural to say "humbas" and there doesnt seem to be any official attestation for this”. I reverted with this reply: “We use RfV for attestation instead of deleting. Regardless, there is a quotatiion at the lemma (not “official” but we do not have such a requirement)”, but Mlgc1998 likely already knew our attestation process.

Note that Mlgc1998 has also removed humbas from the image caption at the lemma twice, replacing it with capitalized Pork Humba, with “this is a dish name. capitalized or uncapitalized, doesnt^[sic] make much difference.” as the edit summary for the second time, as I had stated it should not be capitalized and does not match the entry. I assume “a blog article that doesn't even span a whole year” was supposed to be “quotations that don’t even span a whole year”.

In addition the quotation of humbas by Newport World Resorts, there are also countable uses from a book by Claude Tayag and a Summit Media site. Mlgc1998, when removing the plural, also changed it to uncountable. J3133 (talk) 06:30, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Furthermore, we have never required quotations of regular plurals to independently span a year despite the claim, and Wiktionary is not prescriptive (re “[it doesn’t] make much sense” and “[there is no] official attestation”). J3133 (talk) 07:34, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

English or Spanish

Hot word. Failed RFD for some bullshit reasons. Vealhurl (talk) 21:26, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

• Por cierto: el primero en votar es marica. Vealhurl (talk) 21:28, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Why is this in RFV when it's clearly used? It has a Know Your Meme page and everything.

It should be in RFD. This is a stupid page and I'd vote delete in a heartbeat. Why would every joke get an entry? Should we do it for popular puns and whatnot too? skull emoji MedK1 (talk) 22:56, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree entirely. Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:17, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

The Phrase part of speech ("The question which commences this game") is particularly deletion-worthy: we don't even include that for I spy. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:64CD:8678:83D3:F1E6 15:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Well, if one says “English or Spanish” to a person then that person may not move; it seems idiomatic and the type of thing one would not immediately know the meaning of, as the components of the word have no correlation with the meaning. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 06:39, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't think that is a good test of idiomaticity. It seems to confuse what linguists sometimes call lexical knowledge versus encyclopedic knowledge. Lexical knowledge, for example, includes the facts that Spanish an adjective and that it refers to things of or associated with Spain, its culture, or its language. On the other hand, the fact that Felipe VI is the current Spanish monarch is encyclopedic knowledge, not directly related to the meaning of Spanish or monarch. You say, ‘if one says “English or Spanish” to a person then that person may not move’, but I think that is knowledge of how the game is played, not knowledge of the phrase as a phrase. (Also, as a person who is not playing the game, I can in fact move.) Cnilep (talk) 03:45, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

unsadness

According to the OED, unsad (and unsadness) in this sense is only attested in Middle English. J3133 (talk) 03:27, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

I found at least one use from 1896 referring to "unfastness and unsadness" of a tree, where sap leaks out. There is also this, but in context I'm not sure if it refers to infirmity or I think it refers to mild happiness.

• 1894, James Hamilton Wylie, History of England under Henry the Fourth, volume II, New York: AMS Press, published 1969, page 456:

  They were to be content with vileness and abjection, not light of laughter or ever stirred to highness and unsadness. Japing words were not allowed ; but, inasmuch as they were frail and made out of the slime of the earth, if the Abbess should smile upon one of them by way of recreation, they might laugh back soberly.

Cnilep (talk) 05:08, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

what's occurring

Supposed Welsh greeting. It's not real: it's from a TV comedy series, Gavin and Stacey. See Reddit discussion: [67]. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:64CD:8678:83D3:F1E6 15:47, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

In that very thread it states (somewhat incorrectly as the first series of Saxondale was first broadcast 1 year before the first series of Gavin and Stacey) that it was used by Steve Coogan 10 years before that in a lesser-known TV series called ‘Saxondale’ and some people in the thread say that they use it or have heard it but only after it appeared in Gavin and Stacey. FWIW I did hear an extremely Welsh local man say the phrase to greet his extremely Welsh friends, seemingly unironically, in a Wetherspoons in Swansea once too (though I don’t expect you to take my word for it). Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:28, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

concionator

Rfv-sense A common councilman. Vealhurl (talk) 22:13, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

No citations found. Failed ~2026-12941-7 (talk) 14:14, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

concussation

Only Joseph Hall? Vealhurl (talk) 22:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

trone

Rfv-sense steelyard --90.160.107.54 07:33, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

The other (unchallenged sense) is "A form of weighing machine for heavy wares [etc.]" which might refer to the same thing: a steelyard is a type of balance. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8076:6C67:B80A:B146 07:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

n-rule

Apparently an en dash. Isn't this just LaTeX code or something? I don't find "an n rule" being discussed in GBooks. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BD91:D983:D60:4265 20:11, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

There are quite a few number of technical articles that discuss the n-rule as a synonym of en dash. mysteryroom (talk) 20:25, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Wikt

I’m afraid the provided quotes don’t satisfy “durably archived”, User:LunaTunaEats~SOV. This did go through some deletion process before, but back then we didn’t have the same rules as today, so it might as well be sent to RfV again. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 04:22, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

tobrest

toburst was deleted, this is not attestedVealhurl (talk) 09:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

consolidant

Rfv adj: Serving to unite or consolidate. OED suggests only dictionaries. Vealhurl (talk) 19:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

wifelet

Rfv-sense: a mistress

We have lots of quotations, but none are independent - they're all quoting the same person, Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath. A skim of Google Books doesn't find any other independent cites. Has anyone except Thynn ever called a mistress or polyamorous partner a "wifelet"? Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:23, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

I've never heard wifelet in any sense in the US, but did hear it in the UK. DCDuring (talk) 00:54, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Even if it's only used in the context of this one person, the cites seem adequate: they are using the word, not just mentioning it. We could extend the definition to "a mistress of (that particular person)" I suppose, but it seems unnecessary! Usage note? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7821:6AB9:DB77:CBD4 19:27, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Any evidence of use, in any sense, outside of the UK sphere of linguistic influence? DCDuring (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

• Two of the cites (2011 and 2016) are just mentions ("named his numerous girlfriends wifelets" and "girlfriends who he refers to as 'wifelets'.") The other two read as mentions to me too - the first use of wifelet in the article is in quotation marks, but I know we are sometimes more lenient about cites like that that where a term is defined and then used. I agree, a "Polyamorous partner of the Marquess of Bath" definition would be ridiculous, but the current sense is very misleading about the scope of usage of the term. I think an analogous term would be husbinder, which HG Wells' wife called him (bins for short!) and which subsequently appeared in some of his novels as a cutesy synonym of "husband", as well as in various biographies of the Wellses. But I would still object to us having entries for husbinder and bins without evidence that these terms were actually used outside the Wells household! Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:36, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

October 2025

interversion

Sense: “(rare, obsolete) Embezzlement.” The OED has only one quotation. J3133 (talk) 10:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

clappety

The adjective. It's a sound effect, a noise like "boom", thus an interjection. Nothing is "more clappedy" than anything else. It may occur before interjection-type nouns like "clap" ("clappedy clap") but again this is a chain of noises, like a train going clickety-clack. (The hyphen there gives a clue that this isn't an adjective, too.) Other entries like blackedy may also need attention! 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:7821:6AB9:DB77:CBD4 19:25, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

It's an interjection, but I don't believe it's a noun interjection. Seems to always be a clappety <something>. It's an adjective. Leasnam (talk) 19:43, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

@OP, why does blackedy need attention ? Leasnam (talk) 19:44, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

I've added citations to the adjective. Early uses of clappety, as in clappety feet, clappety clapp, show clear formation from clappety + [noun], providing evidence strongly suggesting later formations (e.g. "clappety-clap", "clappety-clunk", "clappety-clink", "clappety-slap", etc.) to be the same (adj + noun). Leasnam (talk) 20:36, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

The 1968 cite probably shows that clappety + [noun] has already begun to acquire adverbial/interjection interpretation. In "when suddenly all the Indians came to life, clappety bang, ", it ceases to be an ellipsis of "in/with/like a clappety bang" to an adverbial phrase (it happened clappety bang) to possibly an interjection. Leasnam (talk) 21:07, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

But clappety is never a noun. There are no clappeties (plural). So it cannot be a "sound". Leasnam (talk) 21:09, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Nouns do not have to have plurals! 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:A5BD:785F:CCF1:82A7 04:15, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Can you show me a clear example where it's a noun, for instance "a clappety (or clappedy) is a nice sound" ? Because when I see examples like Listen to that clappedy-slappedy sound... it's clear to me that in combination clappedy-slappedy is an adjective. Compare blankety (etymology 1) Leasnam (talk) 19:39, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

acatastasis

"A confusion of something." 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:175:88BD:8436:3E0 09:39, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

'jak

No sources or quotations. Chuterix (talk) 05:43, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Harold Holt

Verb: "(Australian rhyming slang) to disappear or suddenly depart". But the given example was "He did a Harold Holt", which is a noun and not a verb. So probably a misunderstanding by the creator, regarding what a verb is. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1CEC:C6E5:8ABC:2CBA 17:10, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

A few web hits for "Harold Holted", but may not be worth an entry - nothing in GBooks for that form. Certainly do a Harold Holt is the more familiar expression. This, that and the other (talk) 13:20, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm also skeptical of the "salt" sense. Barely anything turns up when searching for "some Harold Holt", which is surely a definite collocation...? This, that and the other (talk) 13:22, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Well, TTO, it's rhyming slang, so the "Holt" would be dropped. I can find mentions of "pass the Harold", but uses are still elusive. This, that and the other (talk) 22:31, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

The rhyming part is not necessarily dropped in rhyming slang (dog and bone, trouble and strife, ...). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:C02E:6D7A:2FB1:F724 07:45, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

proto-Ido

Surely conlangs don't have Protos, right? Or is this a new and pointless branch of linguistics? There is a pro-Ido term, which is something else - quick Googling suggests it's out of my paygradeVealhurl (talk) 17:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

The "Esperanto sen chapeloy" in sense 2 has basically no Google hits either. Conlanger editors are gross. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1CEC:C6E5:8ABC:2CBA 17:15, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

endis

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:29, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

typocosmy

One use, and a couple of mentions --90.160.106.63 06:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Cited. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 22:30, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

barbara

Type of logical syllogism. Always capitalised, and indeed comes from the girl's name. I've already "moved" it to Barbara (capital B) but the abuse filter won't let me remove the English section from barbara, so I have to take it here. I do not expect any RFV evidence to be found, but lol. (P.S. Syllogism#Types has a table of all of the syllogism names.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B0C6:7C8E:60C9:EC6D 08:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Jilly

As a diminutive of Julia. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:B0C6:7C8E:60C9:EC6D 10:28, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

umbrate

Seeing lots of line breaks for adumbrate. Also umbrated as a heraldry term --90.160.107.27 18:52, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

OED has it, as both verb and adj, but I can't see the entry. DCDuring (talk) 02:43, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

• Failed + deleted. OED doesn'thelp Vealhurl (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The NED has these, and I can also find these, enough to save the entry. - -sche (discuss) 02:27, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

plearn

Per Wiktionary:Tea room/2025/October#plearn. - -sche (discuss) 05:34, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

amygdalate

Senses:

• “Of or pertaining to almonds.” The OED has no quotations, only citing Samuel Johnson.
• “(obsolete) Synonym of almond milk.” Except for a use in Medicinal Dispensatory, the OED only cites Phillips’s New World of Words, Universal Etymological English Dictionary, and mod[ern] dict[ionarie]s.

J3133 (talk) 16:33, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

I found two adjectival uses of amygdalate searching Scholar and Books using "taste|tastes|tasting|tasted|smell|smells|smelling|smelled|very|quite|too|seem|seems|seemed|seeming|appear|appears|appeared|appearing|is|was|were|are|being|been amygdalate". There are otherwise many false positives with the noun in scientific literature. One was very mentiony (immediately defined as "made of almonds"); the other was in a list of 'shape' terms. DCDuring (talk) 17:24, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Searches less tied to our adjectivity criteria (less grammatical, more semantic) might work, but I couldn't think of any right away. DCDuring (talk) 17:32, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

pocket Mercy

Mercy pocket

Jargon specific to one game. Probably not attested in durably archived sources. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 00:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

cajol

Created by User:Simplificationalizer. Defined as an "obsolete" form of cajole. Need citations showing this is not a misspelling, or I will convert it to a misspelling or delete it entirely. Benwing2 (talk) 02:15, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

thirty-two

Rfv noun sense: “(Nigeria, colloquial) Teeth.” Added by an IP in October 2023. I cannot seem to verify this from a few quick searches. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 02:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

• Deleted nonsense Vealhurl (talk) 14:08, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

quasi

Discussion moved from RfD.

From nominator Polomo: “The quotes just show usage as a prefix, but they misspell it and don’t hyphenate it. This is definitely not an adjective, and I don’t believe it behaves like an adverb? Maybe this could mean sending to RfV, but idk.” on 10 September 2025.

Seeking cites that could demonstrate whether this is truly a word like, e.g., semi (derived from semi-) is. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 07:10, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

ChatGPT

Common noun. "Any chatbot or AI software." It seems rather soon to genericize this term. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:11C:3C25:E9B9:C886 12:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

Definition is probably wrong too: if it's "any chatbot" then it might be used to refer to primitive early ones like ELIZA, but I bet it's only modern AI-style ones. Likewise if it's "any AI software" then it would include e.g. video game opponents, but these are not "chat" let alone ChatGPT. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:11C:3C25:E9B9:C886 18:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

it is certainly not too soon. I have seen this being used and will try to find quotes. Juwan (talk) 19:53, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

I see this in use. Of course no one would say stuff like “Google Bard is a ChatGPT”, but ChatGPT has become the generic name for at the very least LLMs, but also image-generating AI models. I added an example of this to Portuguese ChatGPT. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 18:54, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

unikaryote

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 14:42, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

Not found on Google Scholar. We probably should have monocaryote in French and monokaryote in English. We have entries for unikaryotic and monokaryotic. DCDuring (talk) 16:41, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

Our other -karyote entries refer to the organism, not the nucleus, so the (bizarrely capitalized) definition is probably wrong even if the term exists. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:48, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

debias

This claims to have alternative forms debiasses, debiassing, debiassed. These are rare enough that Ngrams says they don't exist. Can anyone even cite them? Benwing2 (talk) 01:08, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

A quick check on GoogleBooks suggests ‘debias/debiases/debiasing/debiased’ all exist with 3 or more cites available but the alternatives with ‘ss’ don’t, except for ‘debiassing’ which might scrape through with 4 possible cites (though I’d still say it’s just a misspelling). Overlordnat1 (talk) 07:54, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

clop

Rfv-sense: both of the My Little Pony-related slang senses. Noun sense added in July 2020, verb sense added in June 2021. (These senses were mentioned parenthetically but not resolved in a previous RfV discussion.) Voltaigne (talk) 18:00, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

spay

RFV spade as obsolete past tense/past participle of spay. Even for an obsolete form this feels wrong. Benwing2 (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

openSUSE

Name of a specific operating system. Needs generic use under WT:BRAND I suppose? Or else opens the floodgates to include hundreds of operating systems. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1CF8:6718:1C8B:A639 06:54, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

i sometimes wish we could have etymology-only entries for software products .... we've had to cram the etymology of Mozilla into Mozillian since the main entry doesnt exist, .... but yeah, there's no way this passes WT:BRAND just as Mozilla doesnt. (Although Ive thought about trying to cite it as "Mozilla-compliant browser".) —Soap— 21:52, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

corallian

A deposit of coralliferous limestone […] . The term exists as adjective, and capped Corallian, but I can't see lowercase noun-use. From Webster's 1913Vealhurl (talk) 10:25, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

• I see it. Needs quotes though ~2026-12941-7 (talk) 09:22, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

god-saeng

Korean slang, may be attested in English? Ultimateria (talk) 19:39, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Found some online news articles. They're all from actual papers in circulation, though I don't know whether the quoted articles ever appeared in print. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 21:56, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

dog latin

Discussion moved from RfD.

From Inpacod2: “I really doubt Latin would be uncapitalised.” (21 June 2025).

Seeking cites to see if this form can be attested. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 06:32, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Grismore

Rfv-sense

1. An unincorporated community in Noble County, Indiana, United States.(Can we verify⁽⁺⁾ this sense?)

The Wikipedia article was recently deleted due to lack of evidence of existence as much of anything (see Articles for deletion/Grismore, Indiana on Wikipedia.Wikipedia ). As one person commented: "Not notable, no information found. Almost certainly a onetime rail stop […] ". Is there any evidence that this meets WT:PLACE? Chuck Entz (talk) 19:45, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

saurophilia

Rfv-sense

• An intense fascination, love, or admiration for dinosaurs and other prehistoric reptiles.

You might be able to cite something related to sexual attraction (etymologically it should be love of lizards, though I doubt anyone who might use this would know or care about that), but probably not the definition above. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:24, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

tyranfish

Can't find anything except Wikipedia. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1173:DF0C:829:C8BC 03:42, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

we have http://briancoad.com/Complete%20List.htm Fishes of Canada: An Annotated Checklist 2011 by Brian W. Coad : archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20160310024845/http://briancoad.com/Complete%20List.htm Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:42, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Also https://web.archive.org/web/20251014074719/https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/797347086 Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:51, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Both of those are mentiony. The second refers to a different species.

Also, the specific epithet should be taeniatum.

Rather than delete this if it fails, move it to channel scabbardfish, a more likely attestable name. DCDuring (talk) 15:14, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

pancakes and waffles

Needs more than one throwaway tweet! 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:1173:DF0C:829:C8BC 05:37, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Standarin

I think some Wiktionarians and Discord users like to use this term, but I'm not sure if this is attested per WT:ATTEST. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 06:31, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

I can find it on the web (it doesn't seem to be a Wiktionarian invention), but not in books. - -sche (discuss) 21:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

vell

Rfv-sense rennet bag--90.160.106.8 08:55, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

pheresis

Requesting cites for the linguistic meaning. I think this may be a clever pun that, perhaps through a chain of copiers, came to be seen as real. I couldnt find any use in linguistic literature. —Soap— 20:43, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

hornbeak

hornfish. Multicopied from glossaaries, seeing 0 use. Vealhurl (talk) 21:55, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Light Net

= surface Web. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BC64:8015:2323:FCAA 08:21, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

mastercopy

The verb. 0 GBooks hits for "mastercopying" or "mastercopied". (I'm not sure about the noun either, without a space, but it seems more plausible.) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BC64:8015:2323:FCAA 14:30, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

fisting

"Relating to or involving the sexual practice of inserting a hand into a partner's body." Seems just attributive. Apparently the OED has it, but unlike the OED we do not generally include such "obvious" ones. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BC64:8015:2323:FCAA 16:58, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

What do you mean by obvious? It'd better if it stays on the page, Wikidata has a lexeme for it and also if Wiktionary don't know that "fisting" is an adjective, it'll be... a little problematic. QwertyZ34 (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

I suppose we’d need to find someone saying something likeː “Debbie does Dallas is very fisting but Shaving Ryan’s Privates is the most fisting porn film ever” to attest this? Overlordnat1 (talk) 21:48, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

I think we need the appropriate definition at fist#Verb. DCDuring (talk)

Cites for intransitive and transitive sexual fist are to be found at Google Books here. DCDuring (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

https://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/fisting:

related to a sexual practice involving inserting a hand for stimulation

They discussed the fisting techniques in the workshop.

The magazine featured an article on fisting practices.

Fisting workshops are becoming more popular in the community. QwertyZ34 (talk) 06:34, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

All of these are standard uses of the -ing-form of a verb. But it is no more worth adding a noun PoS than most other -ing-forms of verbs. This would be needless proliferation of PoS sections. DCDuring (talk) 14:07, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

@QwertyZ34, I can see why you would be tempted to interpret "fisting techniques", "fisting practices" et al. as adjectives, but consider "a Wiktionary entry" or "blowjob techniques" or "war materials" or "foot injuries" or "these are QwertyZ34 entries" or "these are noun phrases": would you view all of those as adjectives, too? English routinely uses nouns in 'attributive' position like this, so it's simpler to view these as attributive nouns, wouldn't you agree? (Wiktionary thinks so, in any case.)
I can't find any cites which use this in less noun-y, more adjectival ways, e.g. the only results for "very fisting" I can find are scannos of "very fitting". - -sche (discuss) 16:52, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Attributive noun could work QwertyZ34 (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

• We have the appropriate sense of fist#Verb, to wit, "fist-fuck". This eliminates the need for either adjective or noun PoS at [[fisting]], as any verb's -ing-form can function as nominal or adjectival. DCDuring (talk) 15:56, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

verticle

Axis, hinge, turning point --90.160.107.91 18:28, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

phanerite

Rfv adj sense Vealhurl (talk) 18:58, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Ex-ray

I can find "ex ray" lower-cased (though it's rare and I'd consider it a misspelling) but why would it be capitalised "Ex"? (The name of the letter X is "ex" not "Ex".) Any evidence for these two forms? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:BC64:8015:2323:FCAA 20:14, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

increate

Verb Vealhurl (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

jugate

adjVealhurl (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

jumper cable

sense jump-wireVealhurl (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

knight

sense butterfly Vealhurl (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

legendary Pokémon

???Vealhurl (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

agrilinoid

beetle Vealhurl (talk) 21:53, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Only used attributively in the 3 cites here at Google Scholar. So PoS should be adjective and it should be kept. DCDuring (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

There is also a hit for agrilinoid at Books. DCDuring (talk) 22:36, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

admeenistrative

Scots. Vealhurl (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Can only find stuff mirrored from Scots Wikipedia. Delete. This, that and the other (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

intercoorse

ScotsVealhurl (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Easy to find this. Here is the obligatory single cite for LDL, but there are more. This, that and the other (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

consteetuency

Scots. Vealhurl (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

I can find it in a 19th-century Australian novel amid a discussion of suffrage:

• 1864, Catherine Helen Spence, Mr Hogarth's Will:

  Na, na, Maister Hogarth, when ye gied thae allotments to your hinds, ye showed that ye kent what they were fit for, an' ye MAUN see that the bigger a consteetuency is, the purer it is like to be.

Spence grew up in Scotland, so I'm prepared to believe this is authentic Scots. This, that and the other (talk) 08:59, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

clappedy-slappedy

Going by GBooks, seems to occur only in one specific children's song ("Listen to that clappedy-slappedy sound"). 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:A5BD:785F:CCF1:82A7 04:19, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

chondromyxohemangioendotheliosarcoma

Original definition was a copyvio. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

The entry has no content at all, not even a definition, so should be speedied. This is polluting mainspace. The Requested Entries page must be used if the person doesn't even know the basic meaning. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:80E6:5DEE:F74A:DD80 09:21, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

It did have a definition, but it was copied wholesale from another source (copyvio), so I removed it. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 09:31, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Just added a def, from a US manual for tumors. Not entirely confident on it, but there is a def. CitationsFreak (talk) 04:06, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

RFV-deleted — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 17:22, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

gem

"(Internet slang) Internet content of good quality." Needs to be distinct from the existing sense of something good, which seems unlikely. It has a synonym and antonyms so might be part of a group of slang words, if real. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:80E6:5DEE:F74A:DD80 09:20, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

If you have ever been on soyjak party you would get it. It’s it’s own thing. Usually referring to a funny/original soyjak / wojak edit 2A00:23C4:ED29:AD01:6941:4022:7007:7DC9 21:26, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Great Wall

Rfv-sense — This unsigned comment was added by Geographyinitiative (talk • contribs).

The challenged sense is "(colloquial) The high barrier of entry to enter or discouragement to forming a romantic relationship with a Chinese person especially for a non-Chinese person". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:80E6:5DEE:F74A:DD80 14:35, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

vivificate

Rfv-sense in chemistry, to bring back to metal form. I searched for this in combination with various metals, got no hits --90.160.107.78 06:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

OED only has vivification.

It seems to mainly be mercury that is vivificated, but searching for forms of this verb and "mercury" only turns up old alchemical texts which are probably using sense 1. This, that and the other (talk) 22:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

voltigeur

Rfv-sense leaper, tumbler. Is the name of various racing dogs and show horses (a good name, at that). Apart from that, just French? --90.160.107.78 08:54, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

1, 2, 3

2607:FEA8:1EA1:4000:F5B2:DC70:8F11:B462 00:44, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

• that is 2. --90.160.107.5 12:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

whinyard

Obsolete local name for 2 ducks. Only seen in regional name books. --90.160.107.78 12:11, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

armth

Middle English. The MED does not have this form. J3133 (talk) 12:52, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Does MED have any of the alternative forms (with attestation)? DCDuring (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

whisket

2 senses. Basket and lathe --90.160.106.8 13:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

sifflicate

Are there really 3 independent uses of each sense? I could only find quotes from Walter Scott and Thomas Holcroft. --[Saviourofthe] ୨୧ 14:31, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

The word seems to have passed OED by. One has more luck searching for the past form: e.g. in Miss Murfree and this book by an otherwise unfindable "Colonel Charles Hamley". Both uses occur in heavily dialectal (Appalachian?) speech to mean "overwhelmed" (?"suffocated").

Here's another use of our sense 1 in a Scottish-looking context:

• 1835 September, "Flexible Grummett", “Leaves from my Log-book—My Second Trip”, in :Colburn's United Service Magazine and Naval and Military Journal‎^[68], page 61:

  "Nae, nae, Mr. Boomguard," returned Marshall, "I said nae sic a thing. You sifflicated me to say so when they came to question me, and I answered I would speak the truth."

  This, that and the other (talk) 13:31, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

sifflication

Can we find 2 more independent quotes unrelated to Walter Scott or his work? --[Saviourofthe] ୨୧ 14:38, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

I can find a few ("This judicious choice of the mollia tempora fandi for approaching his Majesty with the 'Sifflication', is highly amusing" "His memorial, petition, or "sifflication" was received as soberly as possible" and a few more), but curiously, they all put it in quotes. Perhaps the authors are trying to distance themselves from what was recognised as a brazenly dialectal word (Scottish English, or even Scots - although there's nothing in DSL, at least for this spelling). Or perhaps they are simply referring to Scott's peculiar use of the word - he uses it numerous times and his works were widely read during that period. This, that and the other (talk) 22:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

@This, that and the other: This looks to me like a pronunciation spelling, perthaps even a caricature of how someone with a specific accent pronounces "supplication", You'll notice the quote in the entry has "a wee bit sifflication of mine ain" repeated back to the speaker as "A supplication of your own, you varlet!". Chuck Entz (talk) 04:48, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Good point. Scott does seem to have been using it as a Scottish pronunciation spelling. The speaker speaks in Scots and the word is spoken back to them in "proper" English. (Is there a known phonological process in Scots that would cause uppl>iffl?)

As I noted, the other uses seem to me to be clear references to Scott, with no particular evidence to suggest a Scots context. This, that and the other (talk) 08:09, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

cossas

muslin. Not in OED, and there's nothing showing up anywhere with ever-more creative searching. Ety stated as French, without hits either Vealhurl (talk) 18:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

There's nothing resembling this among the dozens of terms in OED's historical thesaurus under the various muslin sections.

Century gives this as a plural noun, and you can find some hits in GBooks for the singular cossa. I suspect this is the same thing as documented at Khasa (cloth) on Wikipedia.Wikipedia

As for origin, Wiktionnaire has a Portuguese cassa "muslin". This interesting Portuguese dictionary lists this term alongside various quotes, and gives the origin as "mal. [Malayalam?] kāsa". This, that and the other (talk) 01:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Failed. Mentions, and appearances in Portuguese etymology books are not enough ~2026-12941-7 (talk) 11:16, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Undoing IP closure. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 07:50, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

couchancy

Only used in phrase levancy and couchancy, some old legal term involving cattle Vealhurl (talk) 19:26, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

coursey

Space in the galley. OED only has entry in 1611 dictionary. I'm not finding anything else either Vealhurl (talk) 11:08, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

• FailedVealhurl (talk) 01:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Beware the zero-effort Wonderfool RFV-close. Added two cites and I can see more possible ones (Lord Byron maybe?). ~2026-28366-2 (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Unstriking. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 07:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

hereamongst

It seems to be a preposition in the quotations in the entry, not an adverb, i.e., an error for here amongst. J3133 (talk) 07:01, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I changed the PoS to Preposition as Adverb wasn't supported by the three citations. To my ear, many of the uses of both hereamong and hereamongst would be better not spelled solid and sometimes the here seems redundant or erroneous. But I have heard English in only one earlier century and not read widely from the previous centuries. DCDuring (talk) 15:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I suspect the citation that says "an unjustifiable feeling hereamongst the legal members" should be the two words "here amongst", i.e. not this supposed word at all. Google won't show me the snippet. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:81BD:F083:93F4:6708 15:55, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

The Internet Archive also has it. The words seem to be separate (see also another version of the text), hence I have removed the quotation. J3133 (talk) 16:37, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

This is a jocular variant of a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse, used in an episode of Monty Python. I can't find citations that aren't quotations of said episode. Zacwill (talk) 04:41, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

adhamant

Clinging, as if by hooks. One quote has 'adhamant life', which could mean 'hanging by a thread'. --90.160.106.44 09:20, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Apparently, there once existed a verb "to adhamate" (=to catch/secure with a hook/net) and its derivative "adhamation." It's quite telling that the OED recognizes these two 17th-century words but doesn't acknowledge "adhamant" in any way. Meanwhile, Merriam-Webster updated their 1913 entry with a rather cryptic note that the word is "used especially of the feet of certain birds (as the swifts)." This suggests "adhamant" is supposed to mean something vaguely along the lines of "having curved claws suitable for scaling trees and such" but I found no evidence of the word ever being used that way. Instead, I found a 2003 paper on ticks (rather than birds) that mentions their "renowned adhamant abilities." It's not a good example of the word's correct usage (we wouldn't say that geckos have "renowned adhesive abilities," would we?), but, while imperfect, it is still a genuine, modern use of the word in a peer-reviewed scientific journal intended to convey the meaning of "clinging, as if by hooks." I've also found "the adhamant clause, clinging to one's every word" which not only matches our definition surprisingly well, all things considered, but actually also uses the word correctly. I'm posting here to note that I've added the latter to the word's entry. Emily99x (talk) 21:04, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

chesticle

Rfv-sense "(pornography) Hyper testicles held underneath the shirt in order to look like breasts." An earlier wording of the definition suggests this is something that only exists in drawings and other art; the current wording suggests it's something that actually exists in the real world. Cites and a definition and label that (more) clearly indicate what it means and who uses it would be useful. - -sche (discuss) 06:01, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

tentadick

I don't see any uses in books or magazines. Is this common enough online to pass? I googled it and found only 9 full pages of results (the 10th page had just two results), and those included a lot of duplicates, like the same tumblr username being found on a lot of different tumblr pages; this contrasts with e.g. futanari or hentai, which are amply attested. - -sche (discuss) 06:16, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

reverse trap

RFV-sense "(slang, informal, sometimes offensive, sometimes derogatory) A fictional character, especially from anime, who pulls off a perfect androgynous mix of masculine and feminine traits, thus creating a specific brand of prettiness."
One IP added that as a usage note, and then another IP converted it to a sense. It could stand to be verified either way. On the face of it, it seems like it might be redundant to sense 2, "(slang, informal, sometimes offensive, sometimes derogatory) A fictional character from anime, or related media, who is coded as or has qualities typically associated with a gender other than the character's ostensible gender; dansou." - -sche (discuss) 06:22, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

gloryholer

Someone who has sex using a glory hole. 0 GBooks hits. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:40AC:CBD6:D751:777D 12:10, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Well of course you're not gonna find that in GBooks. I was able to find a few hits in regular google, but one of them was as a nonce word: "I'm the gloryholee, not the gloryholer." MedK1 (talk) 15:52, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I added three cites from Usenet--Simplificationalizer (talk) 20:49, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

on the scunt

Was probably said often enough, just no one thought of durably archiving themselves. 23:52, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Dawnland

Rfv-sense

Japan. A recent Anglish coinage. Needs verification of usage in more than just the one website. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:36, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

farfeeling

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 07:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

thoughtcasting

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 07:16, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Added cites. Please check Leasnam (talk) 01:17, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

It means sending, not receiving, so it's diff from mindreading. Sting Kipu (talk) 14:30, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

entail

Rfv-sense To cut or carve in an ornamental way. Spenser quote, but he didn't spell it rightVealhurl (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

November 2025

halloweekend

Alternative form of Halloweekend. This seems to be a mistake. J3133 (talk) 07:50, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Kabballah

kaballah

Forms of Kabbalah tagged by Hftf on 18 March with the comment “needs serious attestations” but not listed. J3133 (talk) 07:57, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Comment: The OED entry was revised in September 2025. The following forms are listed there (re-sorted here in alphabetical order).

Cabala, Cabalah, Caballa, Caballah, Cabbala, Cabbalah, Cabballa, Cabballah, Kabala, Kabalah, Kaballa, Kaballah, Kabbala, Kabbalah, Kabballa, Qabala, Qabalah, Qaballa, Qaballah, Qabbala, Qabbalah, Qabballah.

And if that wasn't already a lot, this word can also occur uncapitalized. SVG-image-maker (talk) 20:20, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

shitty

Australian vulgar slang: The western striped grunter, Helotes octolineatus. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:8B8:F785:A1E:C151 10:27, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

https://community.deckee.com/topic/16357-whats-this-fish/

Helotes octolineatus

What are these fish? And could I use them as live bait next time? (NSW) : r/FishingAustralia (here it also seems to refer to crescent grunters)

Pelates octolineatus Western striped grunter, Eight-lined Trumpeter, Grunter, Sea Trumpeter, Shitty, Striped Perch, Striped Trumpeter, Tiger Perch, Trumpeter, Western Striped Trumpeter 2001:8003:911B:3B00:F097:EB8F:C701:B556 12:14, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

redrocker

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

As a Martian, I’m offended! Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:28, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

The entry says it's a Reddit protologism. Why aren't we speedying such things? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:95B2:2E6A:8AD2:90E8 09:56, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Remove the derogatory nom haha funny, but Martians aren't actually a real race (as far as we know of) so it can't really be offensive to anyone. Undecided on the def itself though Someone-123-321 (talk) 11:41, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. Despite my joke above, this clearly isn't derogatory and I've untagged it. I'd have no objection to speedily deleting it as a protologism though. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Failed. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

roentgenate

Not in actual use? Might be like those high-order mega-, tera- prefixes that officially exist but are not used. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:3549:F6CB:1975:199A 05:52, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

yearold

J3133 (talk) 07:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

thougheverbeit

J3133 (talk) 07:30, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

anteportico

Architecture term. Only in glossaries --90.160.107.58 09:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

jorjor wel

Very funny, but doesn't seem to fit inclusion criteria. Nemoanon (talk) 05:59, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

constructionalization

Doesn't even have usage example. Needs attestation, because lemmings don't have it and definition as given looks overspecific. Is it the same as constructionalisation, constructionization, or constructionisation? DCDuring (talk) 13:09, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

hiatus

hiatus (countable and uncountable, plural hiatus or hiatuses)

About the invariable plural: hiatus pl.

I checked Merriam-Webster, and Cambridge, neither of which mention this invariable plural.

The page has no reference and no further reading. No quotation uses this invariable plural.

o/ Emanuele6 (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Easy to find if you search Google Books for the quoted phrase "these hiatus are". It is the original Latin plural, and many writers are careful and traditional about these, so no surprise to see it in English too. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:54C4:F71B:724:CBE7 18:42, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

The page originally contained hiatus (plural hiatus or hiatuses); the uncountable was only added in 2020 by User:Equinox in Special:Diff/58917459 Emanuele6 (talk) 18:52, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

The uncountable sense is sense 6 "(prosody, phonetics, sometimes uncountable)", as stated in entry. That uncountability is a separate issue from whether the plural can be invariable ("one hiatus, two hiatus"). The entry even gives an example "in hiatus": that's uncountable because it doesn't say "in a hiatus" or "in the hiatus". 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:54C4:F71B:724:CBE7 18:56, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

naughty

Rfv-sense: verb "to have sex"

Nothing at all in Google Books. "naughtied" also gets very web search hits, and what does come up seems to be nonce uses that are just "be or caused to be naughty in some ill-defined way" (some are sexual, but some are just doggo lingo "My cat naughtied in the bathroom") rather than specifically "to have sex". Smurrayinchester (talk) 08:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

I can imagine it being used in "do the naughty", but that'd be a different definition. This doesn't seem legit. MedK1 (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

cuinage

The stamping of pigs of tin, by the proper officer, with the arms of the duchy of Cornwall. WTF does this even mean? Mentioned in some 17th century dictionaries... Vealhurl (talk) 13:20, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

A pig is a piece of metal (like an ingot). So they were stamped with a coat of arms. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9102:826E:CDC4:95F7 14:17, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

There are a few results for cuynage, although none especially promising, e.g. [69] (note the different definition - forming tin into pigs, not stamping the pigs) and [70] (no idea, but Cornwall is mentioned). This, that and the other (talk) 11:18, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

(Anything about tin mining in the UK context may mention Cornwall because that area was known for tin mining.) ~2025-33037-05 (talk) 17:40, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

• I found nothing useful either. --~2026-12941-7 (talk) 13:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

humiliationplay

BDSM thing. Can't find it convincingly without the space, but only as two words. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:9102:826E:CDC4:95F7 14:16, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

i've noticed fetishes often used bunched spellings ... watersports, petplay, etc ... but i think it only happens when both words are short. this looks more like a hashtag to me. —Soap— 13:58, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. MedK1 (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

puppyfication

Only one durable Google Groups cite. box16 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

The entry's spelling appears to be an alt form of puppification. I've updated the def to reflect. Leasnam (talk) 05:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for digging up the alt. form. box16 (talk) 05:46, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

bell sniff

A contemptible person. Vealhurl (talk) 08:42, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Seems to exist (from a Web search): I have added "UK, slang, derogatory". Would agree with the conjectured etymology! ~2025-33037-05 (talk) 17:41, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

hulch

Rfv-sense dialectal - A hook or nook. - copied from Webster's 1913. Vealhurl (talk) 10:04, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

OK, so which sense of "hook" also means "nook"? ~2025-33037-05 (talk) 17:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

I believe it means a bend or curve [in a wall] ("hook"), which is essentially a 'nook' Leasnam (talk) 20:27, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I've added it at hook, sense 18. Leasnam (talk) 20:31, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

All I can dig up is its use in two phrases: by hulch or by stulch meaning "by any means possible, at all costs" and by hulch and stulch meaning "hastily and uncontrolled" (the second phrase is possibly derived from the first). Stulch seems to be an altered form of stelch "stealth". This might imply that hulch could refer to "hiding", "lurking", "ambush", "subterfuge", ...(?). It's seems impossible to know for sure. I am able to find a somewhat similar word hulk ("hiding-place") but not any attested palatised variant. Funniest thing of all is that it was added by me. Leasnam (talk) 20:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I suggest we remove the line sense and leave the two phrases linked to the page (in the event they get created). We can simply state hulch is of unknown origin and meaning on the respective entries (?) Leasnam (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

wood goldilocks

Rfv-sense:

1. {{w|Ranunculus tuberosus}}.

To start with, there is no Wikipedia article for Ranunculus tuberosus, so the link just wastes people's time. More importantly, I haven't been able to find any source online that gives Ranunculus tuberosus as the taxonomic name for anything called "goldilocks", let alone "wood goldilocks".

The taxonomy is rather complicated, though. Ranunculus auricomus (auricomus literally translates to "golden-haired") is a species aggregate due to apomixis, that is, it sets seed without the genetic material of one of the parents. Combined with the way that modern taxonomy is based on common inherited genetic differences, this makes pretty much every population technically a separate species. Literally hundreds of these microspecies have been published, and it's conceivable that one of them might have been published with the name Ranunculus tuberosus- which would be invalid since the name has already been published for something else. There's also the possibility that the real Ranunculus tuberosus (said to be native to the Pyrenees) or some other species invalidly published with that name might have been so named.

That said, I've looked at every occurrence of "goldilocks" on the same page with "Ranunculus tuberosus" on Google that isn't behind a paywall, and none of them equate the two. It seems to only be used for something in the Ranunculus auricomus complex. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:34, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

iNaturalist does not have any taxon with the name wood goldilocks (neither as principal, nor alternative name), but has a genus Chrysocoma called goldilocks. GRIN does not have anything with common name wood goldilocks. (Those two taxonomic databases are the only comprehensive ones covering plants that have vernacular names.) USDA Plants (less than comprehensive) doesn't either. And, of course, neither Google Books nor Scholar have anything in which woods and goldilocks are part of the same phrase in that order. DCDuring (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

tartralic acid

verifying the formula - C₈H₁₀O₁₁. I don't normally care about these kind of things, but old chemical handbooks have different formulas. tartrelic acid is a similar case. Vealhurl (talk) 17:53, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

anisosquaric

Originally an rfref; I converted this to an RFV. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 12:13, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Verdanagate

Use appears to be limited to a handful of blogs aside from one book here. Ioaxxere (talk) 03:36, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

chounyuu

The name of a website featuring "gigantic breast art". I can hardly find any usage on other social media platforms. Ioaxxere (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Romaji for 超乳 Sting Kipu (talk) 09:23, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

zump

Very much the hot word during the first year of Covid- mostly mentions as people in the media were trying to wrap their heads around how everything had changed. This needs CFI-compliant evidence of 1) actual usage 2) spanning more than a year. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:46, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

There is exceedingly little out there after 2020. Limiting my Google searches to pages updated after 1 April 2021, the only useful results were this listicle, this poorly-written article (not sure if it counts as a use or a mention), and this possibly AI-generated article. On this evidence I would toss it. This, that and the other (talk) 01:11, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

epsilon

Sense 3.1: “(colloquial) A small child.” Has the term been used in this sense by others than Paul Erdős, other than in reference to the latter’s highly idiosyncratic use?  ​‑‑Lambiam 13:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Chin

Rfv-sense: "(obsolete) Alternative form of China." RcAlex36 (talk) 14:54, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

bandon

OED only has Middle English quotes, as do we --~2025-33291-61 (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

gold

Rfv-sense: 'Adverb' "of or referring to a gold version of something"

Seemingly defined as an adjective under Ety 2. No usage example; no cite. In the entry since 2012! DCDuring (talk) 04:21, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

tweenbrain

Can't find it without the apostrophe. It's always 'tweenbrain. ~2025-33978-38 (talk) 10:28, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

pighead

New (Wonderfool-added) literal sense, "the head of a pig". This may be a "pig head" or "pig's head" but not, I think, a "pighead". If it fails, please also remove the related image. ~2025-33978-38 (talk) 10:59, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I think the image can be removed regardless. There's no need for such a potentially shocking image; the head of a living pig would work just as well. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I can find a few uses in Google Books: pighead soup, pighead meat, oxhead, pighead, fresh beef and mutton, oxtails, pigtails, pigheads, pig trotters. Then there's this table of commodities, which doesn't say much about it, but can't be referring to a pig-headed person. I suppose it might be a synonym of hogshead, but it's more likely referring to something for sale in bulk rather than than a container or measure of volume. I also found this mention of "pighead" as the name for the kind of fish called a sucker. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

no borax, no glue

Internet slang: "A task that is impossible to achieve." ~2025-34077-56 (talk) 21:02, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't mean "a task that is impossible to achieve"; you don't say "my boss gave me a no borax, no glue to finish by tomorrow". I had a stab at a better def (and POS).

It might or might not be attestable. This, that and the other (talk) 10:04, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

pregnant parenthesis

@Box16 I find nothing in Google for this. Where did you look? If you found it in another Wiktionary entry as a red link, remember always to check for evidence first, as sometimes people just add rubbish. ~2025-34077-56 (talk) 21:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

There are copious hits on Google Books. box16 (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

But do any unambiguously support the definition given? Could you find three that do? A cursory look suggests that many relate not to literal brackets of any kind, ie, definition 2, but rather to definitions 1 and 3. If you are going to find cites for the definition, try limiting your search to recent times, say, post 1950, and ignore reprints etc. of pre-1950 works. A fundamental point is that earlier writers lived in a world rather unlike our own and that we need to get outside our own idiolects to find what words meant to them and their readers. DCDuring (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

saka siri

"Achira, Indian shot, purple arrowroot; an edible canna (Canna indica).

I found one clear use in running English text at Google Books. There are more of the form "saka siri (Canna indica)", but I didn't think those counted. DCDuring (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

A quote like " […] the remediation effects of water hyacinth (Eichhornia crassipes), saka siri (Canna indica), weeping willow (Salix babylonica), and tea (Camellia sinensis) on wastewater […] " seems pretty clearly to me to be using "water hyacinth", "saka siri", "weeping willow", and "tea" as part of the running text, with the taxonomic names serving the function of definitions like in the example given as acceptable in Wiktionary:Criteria_for_inclusion#Conveying_meaning. Simplificationalizer (talk) 01:21, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

silver screen

Rfv-sense "An early type of cinema screen which had a coating of silver or another shiny metal."

Bit of an odd one: User:Ganjabarah added the sense, but added {{rfv}} at the same time. Maybe that should have been {{rfquote-sense}}? Anyroad, I added three quotes from 1967 to 2007. It's not 100% clear to me, though, whether (1) this is lexicalized and not SoP, or (2) whether it's really "historical" -- it was treated as contemporary as recently as 1999, but I guess that is in the previous century so... Cnilep (talk) 05:44, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I tagged it with RFV because I felt whatever sources I used weren't reliable enough to cite or fully trust, and I'm not sure that definition is accurate. — Ganjabarah (talk) 23:20, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

I probably created it hastily after reading the Wikipedia article, the very existence of which by the way refutes the idea that this is SOP. — Ganjabarah (talk) 23:21, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining! That makes sense. By the way: "the very existence of [the Wikipedia article] refutes the idea that this is SOP." How so? Being the title of a Wikipedia article doesn't necessarily imply idiomaticity. See for example Asian Film Awards, Banana varieties, Consciousness and Cognition, "Dumb Ways to Die", etc. The article Silver screen uses both silver screen and silver lenticular screen to name the object; does that suggest the latter is also a compound word? Cnilep (talk) 03:25, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Of those, only "banana varieties" is SOP. The others are proper nouns.

What I mean is the specific case: "silver screen" doesn't refer to the subset of screens that are silver. Why are you being contrarian about something so obvious? — Ganjabarah (talk) 04:34, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

• Does silver refer to the actual element/material or to the reflectivity/hue? IOW, would silvery be a synonym? I think it likely that silver is a marketing term meant to evoke the idea of high value, silver being a precious metal. Was an expensive material was actually used in most cinema screens, even in the early days of cinema? Would "reflective screen" or "aluminum screen" have sounded nearly as wonderful as "silver screen"? DCDuring (talk) 18:59, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

bede mining

Rfv-sense pickaxe (mining). In some old mining glossaries, and Webster 1913--~2025-33291-61 (talk) 10:19, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Also in OED, without usage citations. Not in MED. DCDuring (talk) 12:07, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Welsh, Dutch/Flemish, French, German cognates? If they exist, they would make the archive of this RfV more useful. DCDuring (talk) 12:15, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

schwə

This is based on a misunderstanding: the vowel in schwa is not a schwa itself. The Hebrew word it comes from, שְׁוָא, has a silent schwa diacritic on the first consonant of the word (שְׁ), not at the end.

All I saw on Google were fake sentences to demonstrate replacing vowels in every word with phonetic values, the equivalent of "A SENTENCE WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS", but I didn't have time to check them all. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:21, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Often, when I explain the concept of the schwa to laymen, someone will make a schwə joke. I don't think it's legit, but there may be merit to making it a hard redirect. MedK1 (talk) 13:16, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

3DNow!

Seems obviously a trademark. WT:BRAND should apply. DCDuring (talk) 17:57, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

It's true that this particular processor architecture extension has an especially commercial-looking name, but I don't think this is a reason to treat it differently from its coordinate terms, like SSE2. This, that and the other (talk) 05:01, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

The entry declares itself to be a trademark. As such we need to establish that it is generic, as is our custom. SSE2 is also a trademark, AFAICT. I don't see why computing-related trademarked terms should be treated any differently from other trademarked commercial terms, despite being in the idiolects of our tech contributors. I would be surprised to find it not a trademark of Intel. That it may be "free" does not make it any less commercial. DCDuring (talk) 13:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think all these entries should live or die together, rather than being arbitrarily killed off (or kept) one by one. A discussion at RFDE could be fruitful. This, that and the other (talk) 00:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

ladder

Isn't the pronunciation of "ladder" in General American longer than "latter" ("ladder" seems more like [ˈlæˑɾ.ɚ]) and thus they aren't really homophones? ~2025-35405-15 (talk) 12:17, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Also the second consonant is sometimes pronounced differently, especially when there is risk of confusion. How widely do we cast our net to assert that two terms are homophones?

Does this kind of question belong at WT:TR? Do we need a distinct page for pronunciation issues? DCDuring (talk) 13:44, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Um, I just thought this topic was appropriate here. If you believe it should be moved somewhere else, feel free to do so ~2025-35554-46 (talk) 13:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Good guess, but this page tends toward overcrowding: that's why RfVs from languages other than English are on different subpages and uncertain etymologies go to WT:ES. WT:TR is probably better. DCDuring (talk) 14:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

ahuriken

Ninja throwing knife. Typo for shuriken?? ~2025-35546-88 (talk) 02:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

all ends up

Adverb, informal: "completely, totally". ~2025-35550-96 (talk) 13:43, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Might also mean 'whatever happens' and have an alt form all-ends-up Sting Kipu (talk) 14:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Added a few cites, can provide plenty more if needed. BigDom 15:54, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, but is the definition correct for the one that says "Got him all ends up". Does it mean "got him completely, totally"? ~2025-35550-96 (talk) 17:04, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

It is ambiguous, but it would be compatible with several definitions of get, including "To catch out, trick successfully." and some following that definition.

That cite. at least, seems ambiguous. Another parsing might lead to definitions like "turned around; confused; FUBAR". We should have cites that exclude such alternative definitions. Collins has the "totally; completely" definition as British English. Their examples are:

They would argue that it all ends up a mess in your stomach anyway. The Sun (2011) ^[sic]

and But they had this game won all ends up. Times, Sunday Times (2015)

This does suggest that our labor-intensive approach to citations should be at least careful enough to avoid such howlers as the first. DCDuring (talk) 18:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough regarding the 1924 cite; as a native BrE speaker it seemed OK to me but I've replaced it with another example. That first example from Collins really is a stinker! The vast majority of the uses on archive.org/bgc do seem to be from British authors, so I've gone ahead and added the same tag to our entry. BigDom 19:53, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

As a foreigner (US), I find the cites still not completely excluding other definitions, but I recognize that it is hard to find completely unambiguous attestation, especially for terms mostly used in informal speech. Sportswriting and fiction seem like the most likely sources. DCDuring (talk) 20:00, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

deflow

To flow down. - only in Browne's Pseudodoxia Epidemica?Vealhurl (talk) 14:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

• I only find Browne too, and OED agrees. There are sparse hits for "deflow" meaning deflower, but these are probably misspellings. The supposed computing definition is for DeFlow, not dictionary material. --~2026-12941-7 (talk) 09:46, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

dentelli

modillions. Uses are just code-switching, methinks Vealhurl (talk) 14:24, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

alooflier

~2025-35550-96 (talk) 17:06, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

bonnet

Rfv-sense accomplice of a gambler. Obsolete slang --~2025-33291-61 (talk) 19:39, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

I saw this recently while reading George Borrow's Lavengro [71]. Please use the good citations there among others. ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 07:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

grinchsome

Simply not in use: barely any hits even in a Web search. The creator made a lot of Dr. Seuss entries that may need attention. ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 17:46, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

kalampokiphobia

Another by the above user (creator of grinchsome). No usage except apparently as the title of a Roblox video game level or something. ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 17:48, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Aeanna

Female given name. ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 18:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Ajeanie

Male given name; but apparently only the name of Ajeanie Talbott. If nobody else has this name, we cannot include it. ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

any given Sunday

Not sure whether to RFV or RFD. Seeking evidence that this is used with the claimed, idiomatic meaning, since it was created without any, and what I find when I search looks literal ("any given Sunday, millions of Americans attend services expecting a worship experience", "any given Sunday, any team in the NFL can win", etc). - -sche (discuss) 19:50, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

I have heard it used as an ellipsis of or allusion to the "NFL" usage. We wouldn't miss it if it were deleted. DCDuring (talk) 19:59, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

The definition is not usable as it stands: "On a particular day, an unpredictable outcome can occur." This is an entire statement and cannot define an adverb. ~2025-37467-56 (talk) 12:23, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

antidegradable

An old SemperBlotto entry: "That counters degradation". I think he was guessing, because that would be "antidegradation", not "antidegradable". This term seems to have been used very rarely to describe something obscure in quantum physics. Anyone? ~2025-35917-66 (talk) 20:26, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

You only think SB was guessing?

The introduction to this thesis says: "Degradable channels were introduced as a set of channels which have strictly additive coherent information […] The notion of an antidegradable channel comes from the converse of a degradable channel." Is it just me or does "come from the converse of" sound like an awfully vague thing for a theoretical physicist to say? This, that and the other (talk) 23:18, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, the thesis is for MSci. in Math. Perhaps that's less surprising. DCDuring (talk) 00:30, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I found a definition here:

The notion of a degradable channel is that there is some other channel which adds a particular type of noise to the channel such that it can emulate the complementary channel. The converse of a degradable channel is an antidegradable channel. In that case there exists a particular channel which can add noise to the complementary channel such that it emulates the original channel.

In other words, it's not "antidegradable" in the sense of resisting degradation, but in the sense of being able to be operated on by a reverse operation to degradation (instead of adding noise to X to get Y, you add noise to Y to get X) - I think this is analogous to anticommutative, which is not non-commutative, but rather does something the opposite of commutation (in this case, it becomes negative). I think we should define this simply as "Complementary to a degradable quantum channel" and leave any more complex quantum physics out (the alternative would be something like "Being the complementary channel of another qubit channel, such that there exists another channel that can add noise to the complementary channel and produce the original channel", I think). Some cites:

2014, Francesco Buscemi, Nilanjana Datta, Sergii Strelchuk, “Game-theoretic characterization of antidegradable channels”, in Journal of Mathematical Physics‎^[72], →DOI:

We introduce a guessing game involving a quantum channel, three parties—the sender, the receiver, and an eavesdropper, Eve—and a quantum public side channel. We prove that a necessary and sufficient condition for the quantum channel to be antidegradable, is that Eve wins the game.

2017, Connor Paddock, Jianxin Chen, “A Characterization of Antidegradable Qubit Channels”, in arXiv‎^[73]:

Using an inequality derived to describe the set of bipartite qubit states which admit symmetric extension, we are able to characterize the set of all antidegradable qubit channels

2022, Satvik Singh, Nilanjana Datta, “Detecting positive quantum capacities of quantum channels”, in NPJ Quantum Information‎^[74], →DOI:

The well-known family of entanglement-breaking channels – which consists of channels whose Choi matrices are separable – is strictly contained within the the intersection of the anti-degradable and PPT families, see Fig. 2.

Smurrayinchester (talk) 15:38, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

I suppose the remaining question is whether it is ever used apart from channel. DCDuring (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Not unless we count quotes like "The channel belongs to the antidegradable class", AFAICT. Smurrayinchester (talk) 08:23, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm seeing use at Google Scholar that would seem to mean "resistant to chemical degradation, often biochemical degradation." In that use it seems to usually be hyphenated. There is also antibiodegradable, cited and added. DCDuring (talk) 17:02, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

anti-degradable "(materials science) resistant to chemical degradation", cited and added.DCDuring (talk) 17:41, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

SB had it almost right. DCDuring (talk) 18:03, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Although it would seem very plausible that antidegradable would be an alternative form of anti-degradable in the sense "resistant to chemical degradation", it does not appear to be attestably used that way. DCDuring (talk) 18:09, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

8t

Scots. Tagged but not listed. I can't find any examples either, though it is plausible (and seems like it might, marginally, occur in some older English texts). - -sche (discuss) 02:12, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

aber heart cake

Scots. All I can find is one mention. - -sche (discuss) 03:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I also can't find it used (despite skimming hundreds of mislabeled German texts), but it is mentioned both in Grant's SND and in Jakob Jakobsen's Etymological Dictionary of the Norn Language in Shetland (1928). The latter makes me think it is SoP, as Jakobsen gives both de aber heart-cake and de iveri heart-cake as variants of de nidi heart-cake (the greedy-, all-, or needy-heart piece), a lead charm used to cure excessive appetite, or sometimes to encourage appetite in a child. Cnilep (talk) 03:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

RFV-failed. I added the phrase as a usage example at aber. Cnilep (talk) 00:46, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Turing Slip

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 13:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

autoanilingus

No GBooks hits. The reference is Urban Dictionary. ~2025-36551-27 (talk) 15:31, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

I wonder if anyone is bendy enough to perform this. I tried, but am about 50 cm away from achieving my goal. Vealhurl (talk) 12:43, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Cats and dogs do it (for cleanliness rather than stimulation, presumably!). ~2025-37002-55 (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Cuomintang

Recent (this month) hot word, "Referring to the campaign platform of Andrew Cuomo or his supporter base during the 2025 New York City mayoral election."

I can find some people who transliterate 國民黨 / 国民党 (Guómíndǎng) with a C, but zero mention of Cuomo. I don't know if this is a one-off joke, or perhaps in wider circulation but swamped out in search results by the more common Chinese homophone. Cnilep (talk) 00:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Search for google:"Cuomintang" "Cuomo" to find uses online. I can't find any uses in books (nor Google Scholar), nor in newspapers or magazines at Issuu, so AFAICT people would have to accept online cites to include this, and even then only as a hot word. - -sche (discuss) 18:36, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

daughterlang

13 hits for the singular and 15 for the plural (which no doubt overlap) on all of Google. This seems to be a term used only by a small group of conlangers who frequent a few places online. Yes, there's usage, but is it independent? Chuck Entz (talk) 04:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

I found several results in the Conlang Mailing List, though an account is necessary to read the material. I presume that Brown University will continue to maintain the archive, making it WT:DURABLE. Reading WT:CFI#Independent, these all seem to be independent (i.e. written by different people, not quoting the same material). I found no citations on Google Scholar, Google Groups, Google Books, the Wikipedia Library, the Internet Archive, Issuu or PressReader for either the singular or plural. I found one result on NewspaperArchive, but it was a scanno. ArcticSeeress (talk) 11:52, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

likam

Not in the EDD, while the OED lacks post-1500 attestations. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 02:36, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Century has it, but we already have a Middle English for it. I'll move it to Modern English licham - I think it might barely scrape by Leasnam (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Moved to licham. Leasnam (talk) 01:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

All three quotations appear to be updated Middle English; the substantial lexical, morphological, and syntactic alterations the first two have underwent mean they probably qualify as modern English attestations, though the second doesn't count towards WT:ATTEST as it either derives from or shares a common source with the first. However, the third likely doesn't as its modernisation is mostly circumscribed to the spelling (though note e.g. hang rather than hing for original hynge). Even if two more valid modern English attestations are produced, the evidence appears to point to a literary learned borrowing from Middle English rather than inheritance. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 02:44, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

participial

Rfv-sense: noun: "a participle". Exists, but the definition is not right. Our quote says "[…] the verb has two forms, which […] are called Participials, namely, (a) The Infinitv^[sic] […] (b) The Participle […]". So the participle is a type of participial. This text conveys the same idea. This, that and the other (talk) 07:01, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Most OneLook dictionaries only have it in the adjective word class. Most that have it also as a noun define it as "A participle". WordNet has "a non-finite form of the verb; in English it is used adjectivally and to form compound tenses". The usage you cite seems idiosyncratic to me, though it may be just be dated. DCDuring (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Good point. Looking some more, I think the term was used in the 19th century to refer to what we would call "non-finite forms". A great quote I found:

1889 March, P. Magnie Magnusson, “Participles and infinitives”, in School Education, volume 8, page 56:

To have a short appellation, let us call participles and infinitives participials. Among all the myriads of words, a more skillful, many-sided and hard-working class than this could hardly be found, and still—such is the world's reward—they are strangers in a strange land forced to live with their aristocratic cousins, the "finite" verbs.

It continues even more melodramatically:

O, outcast participials, the homeless tribe among the parts of speech, like the Samaritans, neither Jews nor Gentiles, what can be done for you?

I think the can be handled out of RFV. Probably was more tea room material to begin with, I admit. This, that and the other (talk) 00:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

I see that @DCDuring has re-added the "participle" sense, without any evidence. I'm reopening this RFV, as I would want to see evidence for this sense. I can find scant evidence in the grammars of African languages only (chiefly Bantu), so at the very least, a context label may be in order. This, that and the other (talk) 07:06, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

It's not obvious, then? I'd thought widespread use would have been sufficient.

BTW, the other definition may not be dated, but only be used to characterize words in certain non-English languages. Very hard to tell without a lot of context unless the context is more of a mention than a use. DCDuring (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

@DCDuring I searched GBooks for "past participial is" and there were only 7 results. As noted, the results were chiefly in the context of Bantu languages, so (a) I'm not sure that a general definition is appropriate, (b) I'm not totally sure there isn't some added layer of meaning beyond just "participle".

Of course, if you are seeing something I'm not, please share! This, that and the other (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

I am loath to reject the simple definition that several dictionaries have in favor of any definition that depends on mentions. The more specific and wordy the definition, the harder it is to support it using uses, because it needs citations for each aspect, each phrase or meaningful word of the definition. Even for a short definition, such def. 1, we end up with three very mentiony citations. Subsequent use in the same work of the term doesn't really establish use either. DCDuring (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

I am bothered that two of the cites for the dated sense seem to be mentions (1870: "are called"; 1889: "let us call"). They may illustrate the meaning the author intends and the existence of the spelling, but not usage expected to be understood by some portion of readers. But what would a use look like for an uncommon technical term? A usage like "as participials Xing or Xed are [infinite|not finite]" would qualify, I think, but such clean usages may not exist. The other definition, "A participial word" faces the same problem, but may be found in an expression like "participle or participial" which might suffice. Also there are many instances of participials which don't seem to reflect any particular characteristic of the word-type. DCDuring (talk) 18:59, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

The second occurrence in the 1889 text is a use; I included the mention in the quote so the author's intended meaning was obvious. I agree that the 1870 text is unsatisfactory. More cites should be available - the term in this sense seemed popular in 19th-century grammar primers. This, that and the other (talk) 02:33, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

urdoxa

All signs point to this being a German word:

• It only seems to occur in italics. The only exception I could identify was this text.
• The majority of uses available (but not all) spell it with the capital U, as if a German noun.
• The quotation in the entry is in German.

I wonder at what point we consider a word like this naturalised into English? This, that and the other (talk) 11:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Indeed we are missing a German entry (google books:"Urdoxa" "des" etc), but I can find exactly three non-italic, lowercase uses of this, which I suppose a reader would have no reason to think were not using an English word. I can also find one italicized use of the plural urdoxae in English and no uses of it in German, so AFAICT that use too would seem to have to be accepted as English (as there is no other language for it to be). So I suppose this just barely scrapes by as English on that basis, even if the italicized capitalized uses still look like they're codeswitching/mentioning German, and obviously the fully German quote should be (re)moved. - -sche (discuss) 18:25, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

heartlang

A type of conlang. ~2025-37072-28 (talk) 14:51, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

I have added four quotes from the Conlang mailing list. It is maintained by Brown University, which I presume makes it WT:DURABLE. ArcticSeeress (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

deprisure

Can't find nothin' but Montagu, and OED agrees Vealhurl (talk) 15:38, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

I found a second cite, if anyone can find a third. - -sche (discuss) 17:58, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

• no more in Google Books or archive.org either--~2026-12941-7 (talk) 13:39, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

RFV-failed. Deleting entry. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 17:22, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Alopeki

@Saltmarsh This appears be an erroneous transliteration of Αλωπεκή: the correct or at least more commonly used form in English appears to be Alopece. --Hekaheka (talk) 17:50, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

@Hekaheka: The transliteration looks fine for modern Greek. For Ancient Greek it would be something like "Alōpekē". The Latin term borrowed from it would be something like "Ălōpēcē", and English tends to take such things more from Latin than directly from Greek. In other words, none of the above is "an erroneous transliteration", but I would expect the Latin-derived spelling "Alopece" to be the most common.

I can easily find "Alopeki" in Google Books, but it seems to be used for some place in Greece visited by 19th century travelers. Since Ancient Greek ᾰ̓λώπηξ (ălṓpēx) is the word for "fox", I would expect to see places in Greece named after foxes that would coincidentally be spelled the same (the ξ at the end is really κ+ς, and the ς tends to disappear in the process of derivation).

So, to verify this, we would need to see references to the ancient settlement in the Athens area or its people, not to parts of the modern landscape (I believe one of the false positives is a spring). Chuck Entz (talk) 01:16, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

This is more complicated than I hoped. Perhaps we should include both as English translations in Αλωπεκή and leave Alopeki as it is. --Hekaheka (talk) 11:01, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

It does have something to do with alopex, I assume. DCDuring (talk) 14:37, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

December 2025

anti-grinch

TVTropes fandom slang. Not in GBooks (with this sense). ~2025-37467-56 (talk) 12:21, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

carucage

Rfv-sense act of ploughing --~2025-33291-61 (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

cloud

This regards the current sense 11:

(figuratively) A negative or foreboding aspect of something positive: see every cloud has a silver lining or every silver lining has a cloud.

The two usexes carry no sense of foreboding, and while the sense in both of them is negative (a facial expression of discontent; a mishap), it is not a such an aspect of something positive. They could actually serve as usexes for sense 4: (figurative) Anything which makes things foggy or gloomy. In the saying every cloud has a silver lining there is also not by itself a sense of foreboding (usually the cloud is already there) and the relationship is the other way around – the silver lining is a positive aspect of something negative.  ​‑‑Lambiam 18:26, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

finifugal

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:05, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

It seems to mostly occur in books about "rare" words or with an immediately adjoining definition. In one use instance it seemed to mean avoidance of reminders of death. DCDuring (talk) 15:12, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

I added three quotes. Please let me know if the entry looks up to snuff now. Booksybeeksy (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

The 2020 quote is for a noun. The meaning of finifugal in the 1883 quote could be anything; that quote is more of a mention than a use. The 1883 quote's problems could perhaps be remedied by more context, sadly not available from the source you link to. The other quote is OK. DCDuring (talk) 22:37, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

I found the 1883 quote in another work (same author) published a year later. It confirms the definition, but seems all the more like a mention, appearing in italics: "the finifugal tendency, as we may call it". DCDuring (talk) 22:54, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Could you help me understand why the 1883 mention doesn't satisfy verification? In the quote given, it is related to the statement that "they...recoiled from the end of everything."

Fair point about noun usage in the 2020 quote (it's a poem so I think the poet is making use of poetic license but I can look for another). Booksybeeksy (talk) 18:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Contemporary and modernist-type poetry is a poor source for attestation since ambiguous and novel, creative use of words is stock in trade of such poets.

See w:Use-mention distinction. In the 1884 quote finifugal appears in italics, which is a standard way of presenting a term being referred to as a word, not used as a word. That it is immediately followed by "as we may call it" confirms that it is being referred to as a word, not used with the assumption that readers would understand it. DCDuring (talk) 19:03, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Great point about the poetry, thanks.

With respect to italics in the 1883 mention, I read the italicization as a reference to foreign origin (also standard, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italic_type#Usage). In my view, the use-mention distinction would be more apt here if the phrase "finifugal tendency" were all in italics, such that the preceding "the" would modify the full phrase as a mention; since only "finifugal" is italicized, I see the styling as conveying the word's Latin etymology as it was new to English usage then. Booksybeeksy (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

But derivation from a foreign language is not conventionally conveyed by italicizing the derivative, rather by italicizing the foreign etymon.

I suppose that a first use (coinage) in italics would be acceptable. Then: just one more to go. DCDuring (talk) 21:37, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Replaced the poem example with (I think) a better one. How does that look? Booksybeeksy (talk) 17:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Found an unambiguous, non-italicized use in the epilogue of The Horologicon. Looks like we're set. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 14:06, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Sorry to ask a naive question, but how does resolving the request for verification (here and/or on the entry's page) work? Thanks for the help! Booksybeeksy (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Please refer to the section at the top of this project page, particularly the paragraph for Closing a request, as it describes the usual procedure for when a request is resolved. Do also note the grace period of at least 1 week, to give sufficient time for other editors to evaluate the legitimacy of the claimed citations. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 04:08, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

All the cites provide strong hints at the definition of the work, suggesting that the word is not part of the lexicon, except among the literati, who enjoy the enormous advantage over the rest of us of imposing their idiolects on us because publishers pay them to do so. I'm willing to go along with the gag for cites 2 (2013) and 4 (2025), but cite 3 (2016) offers a full definition ("shunning the end of anything") before the word is mentioned. I don't know whether a presumed coiner (cite 1, 1884) gets a pass on the use-mention distinction. DCDuring (talk) 17:33, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I don't think this breaks the pattern of providing strong hints at the definition, but I did find another viable attestation, this time on a newsgroup. At least cyberspace isn't monopolized by the literati! —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 18:29, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

gypsy

RFV of the recently added sense "(sometimes offensive) A whitewashed South Asian." - -sche (discuss) 00:05, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

lurkmore

Alt form of the net slang lurk moar. I couldn't really find this. It seems to be the name of a Russian Web site, which dominates search results. ~2025-38083-82 (talk) 19:05, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-38083-82 I believe the Russian website "lurkmore" was a site for sharing memes in a similar manner of 4chan, and as a result, its name is derived from (portmanteau of) the Russian term Lukomorye and the English lurk moar. This particular 'source' offers the etymology, but I wouldn't treat it as irrefutable evidence.

I do believe most instances of "lurkmore" online are to refer to the website, which may disqualify "lurkmore" as a legitimate English term; but it seemed relevant enough to add as alternative formatting.

I don't oppose the removal of "lurkmore", but since the Russian site seems noteworthy enough, I'd argue that at the very least, lurkmore could be converted to a redirect page, to funnel any potential typos to the correct main entry lurk moar. -- Alexander Patmos (talk) 22:25, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

I think this is pretty sound. MedK1 (talk) 15:42, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

thirdpounder

None of the three Google Books hits for this spelling look like uses (one is in a URL and another is a scanno). - -sche (discuss) 01:01, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

deminatured

Just Shakespeare? Vealhurl (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

• we can fail this. nothing else in Google Books, archive.org or OED. Even with demi-natured --~2026-12941-7 (talk) 11:33, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

dendrachate

Only in dictionaries? Vealhurl (talk) 12:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Mostly mentions, and mostly plural. I've added two cites; not certain about the 1935 one, as I couldn't view the larger text and it didn't sound very mineral-related. ~2025-38083-82 (talk) 13:22, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

volt

Noun: "A colour similar to lime often used in Nike products." Seems brand-like. Is it meaningfully attestable? ~2025-38083-82 (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

cysteinyl

This is a noun according to Merriam-Webster. J3133 (talk) 09:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Seems so. cysteinyls plural is easy to find in GBooks. ~2025-38651-03 (talk) 11:47, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

BFDI:TPOT

Battle for Dream Island. ~2025-38651-03 (talk) 11:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Google claims to have 1.1 million hits for this, so RFV is going to be too tedious. It can be dealt with at WT:RFDE#BFDI:TPOT as NSE. This, that and the other (talk) 10:39, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

contranarian

Seems an exceptionally rare error for contrarian. I'm guessing the "dialectical" label should read "dialectal", but given the meaning I can't be sure. ~2025-38651-03 (talk) 16:00, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Turns up in various places online. You could probably amass 10 online cites that are clear uses. Also appears in this news article in front of a [sic] in a quote from Joe Trippi. This, that and the other (talk) 01:15, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

colonize

RFV of sense 2: "(transitive) To settle (a group of people, a species, or the like) in a place as a colony.", where the settlers are the verb's object, so: something like The king colonized Britons in(to) America? I can't find anything like that; everything I can find is either sense 1 or sense 3:

• 1. "(transitive) To settle (a place) with colonists, and hence make (a place) into a colony." as in Britons colonized America or Britain colonized America or the British king colonized America with Britons (or Bacteria colonize you, or you are colonized by bacteria).
• 3. "(transitive) To settle among and establish control over (the indigenous people of an area)." (as in official efforts to colonize blacks, Americans [...] wished to colonize Germans as the Dutch and British had colonized Hottentots

- -sche (discuss) 17:12, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

porcinism

porcinist

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:25, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

sixth wall

This has all the markings of a "hey, look- I just made up a word!" protologism, complete with lengthy explanation of the concepts behind it. There are a few social media posts with similar explanations which may or may not be independent, and a lot of false positives refering to actual physical walls.Chuck Entz (talk) 22:02, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Heh, they always have to add multiple senses, don't they? Their word can never mean just one thing. ~2025-38651-03 (talk) 22:04, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

despecification

Rfv-sense - obsolete - discrimination Vealhurl (talk) 22:20, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Doctor Feelgood

Sense: “(US, slang) Heroin.” Replaced yesterday by ~2025-38926-98 with “An older term used in the 1970's and 1980's for a drug dealer.”, with the edit summary “Fixed the definition. The old definition was incorrect”. I have reverted the edit and added it here instead per our RfV process. J3133 (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

‘Doctor Good’ is used as a name of a fictional feel-good potion in Cher’s song ‘Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves’, which is possibly an allusion to Kennedy’s controversial doctor Max Jacobson. Jacobson, who went by the soubriquet ‘Doctor Feelgood’, prescribed the President amphetamines and was struck off a few years after his death. Overlordnat1 (talk) 07:51, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Apple Gifting Day

Prompted by Wiktionary:Information desk/2025/December#Apple Gifting Day to look into this, I find only one Google Books hit, and even on the web only scattered mentions on calendar websites. - -sche (discuss) 18:59, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

The distinction between uses and mentions is rather blurry here. Feeling generous, I would class these GBooks hits as uses, as they are declaring that "it's" / "today is" Apple Gifting Day: [75] [76] With some online quotes as well, one could probably make a case for passing this.

As for its origin, it is clearly a product of the internet age, despite some websites spinning stories about medieval traditions. The earliest reference I can find is this this Jan 1, 2010 tweet from Yahoo News, which was presumably compiled by someone reading from a calendar website or listing. This, that and the other (talk) 08:54, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

dissipativity

Rfv-sense The rate at which palpable energy is dissipated away into other forms of energy.. Firstly, WTF is palpable energy? Secondly, I wanna just call it the state of being dissipative, adding some technical definitions thereto. Thirdly, this is more of a Request for Cleanup, but whatever. Vealhurl (talk) 21:01, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

"WTF is ___?" should be a call to do more research. You're pretty thick (I've been dealing with you for 20 years) and things you don't understand are not automatically Not Things. Just read some books. (Allomerism was a good call though. Definitely should be a word but I could find one-and-a-half sound citations.) ~2025-38969-24 (talk) 02:57, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence of "palpable energy" being a thing, other than perhaps in psychology or spirituality. This text by Lord Kelvin introduces the concepts "palpable energy" and "dissipativity" in the same paragraph; it seems that neither term caught on in this particular sense. This, that and the other (talk) 23:04, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

vigen-

Prefix for "twenty" with no derived terms. Ultimateria (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

I couldn't find any info on the prefix online. Every other source seems to be a replica of our entry. MedK1 (talk) 23:50, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

We have vigentennial, which Merriam-Webster claims was formed in English. Our entry for vigenary also states it was formed in English. Those are our only two English entries that start with vigen-, and I haven't been able to identify any words we don't have. I think we can get rid of this prefix and use the Latin etymon directly in those two entries. (We could well create vicen-, though.) This, that and the other (talk) 05:11, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

This seems like a variation of viginti-, which occurs in English words derived or borrowed from Latin, such as vigintillion, vigintivir, and vigintile, along with further elaborations. Vigentennial is clearly formed in the same way, but with an 'e'. Vigenary doesn't seem to be derived in the same way, although the root is related. P Aculeius (talk) 05:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Good point; we have vigintennial. Vigentennial is likely a remodelling of that term after centennial etc (or perhaps after Latin vīgēnus directly). This, that and the other (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

dichastic

Rfv. I found only dichastic cell in one book. OED has one more nondictionary quote. Vealhurl (talk) 09:50, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Cited (see Citations:dichastic). —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 14:58, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

Looking now, it seems like all but 1 one of the citations there are by the same author, and thus are not independent per WT:CFI. Needs one more. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 15:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

homonymously

Rfv-sense: Equivocally; ambiguously. Vealhurl (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

This is from Webster, which has a corresponding sense at homonymous: "2. Having the same name or designation, but different meaning or relation; hence, equivocal; ambiguous". This latter part matches NED. However, as far as I can tell, all NED's cites are referring to words that are homonyms, so I don't think the "ambiguous" part can be considered an independent sense. This, that and the other (talk) 23:49, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikionary

Not common. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 07:14, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

man cave

Rfv-sense: trans men unoperated genitalia. How widespread is this? I've only ever seen def 1 and that's all I've been able to get out of looking it up. I'm not sure how I'd filter the search to make it so only sense 2 shows up. MedK1 (talk) 09:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

This Reddit post says someone in Shameless (American TV series) used it (if true, Shameless could be one cite; we've tended to accept TV shows and movies as durably archived since libraries have them on DVD etc). Another Redditor uses it here (and another mentions hearing someone else use it), and I can find scattered uses on Bluesky, but I can't find any uses in books, nor in queer (or other) magazines at Issuu, so it may be too uncommon to meet CFI at this time. (Also, it seems to be informal; it doesn't seem to be used in e.g. academic literature the way some other terms are, so I've added that to the label as long as it's here.) - -sche (discuss) 22:55, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

charmel

A fruitful field. Only in old Bible? --~2025-33291-61 (talk) 10:16, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

It’s also in Smith’s literal translation[77] as well as Douay-Rheims but that’s the only other place I can find it. Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

How do the the citations support the definition "fruitful field"?

BTW, do separate books or groups of books of the testaments count as independent? Groups of the Epistles seem to have identified authors and could be deemed independent. I can't imagine that different translations of the same passage would count as independent. DCDuring (talk) 00:23, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

@DCDuring: As to the first question: that's the consensus of the translations I've seen for the two passages that have it in the Douay-Rheims:

Isaiah 29:17

Is it not yet a very little while, and Libanus shall be turned into charmel, and charmel shall be esteemed as a forest? [Douay-Rheims]

Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest? [King James version]

Isaiah 32:

15: Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high: and the desert shall be as a charmel, and charmel shall be counted for a forest.

16: An judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and justice shall sit in charmel.[Douay-Rheims]

15:Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.

16: Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field. [King James version]

The Hebrew word is כַּרְמֶ֖ל (karmél), and elsewhere it's translated as "new [ears of] grain" as well as being the name for the place known as Carmel in English.

The Douay-Rheims version also has:

2 Kings 19:23

By the hand of thy servants thou hast reproached the Lord, and hast said: With the multitude of my chariots I have gone up to the height of the mountains, to the top of Libanus, and have cut down its tall cedars, and its choice fir trees. And I have entered into the furthest parts thereof, and the forest of its Carmel.[Douay-Rheims]

By thy messengers thou hast reproached the Lord, and hast said, With the multitude of my chariots I am come up to the height of the mountains, to the sides of Lebanon, and will cut down the tall cedar trees thereof, and the choice fir trees thereof: and I will enter into the lodgings of his borders, and into the forest of his Carmel.[King James version]

Is. 10:18

And the glory of his forest, and of his beautiful hill, shall be consumed from the soul even to the flesh, and he shall run away through fear.[Douay-Rheims]

And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth.[King James version]

To (at least partly) understand the variation in the Douay-Rheims, you have to look at the Latin Vulgate translation, which is what the Douay-Rheims had to work with. the passages with "Charmel" have Latin chermel and the others have mostly carmelus.

What all of this shows is that these are translations, so the meaning comes mostly from the original texts- though not consistently.

Which brings up the answer to your second question: there's a difference between the authors of the original texts and those of the translations. The former are in Hebrew or Greek, so their independence only applies to those languages, and has been the subject of much debate among biblical scholars. The earlier translations are by groups of people, and it's usually not clear who contributed what. The Douay-Rheims version translated from the Latin Vulgate, which translated from the Greek Septuagint, which translated from some Hebrew original(s), as well as the Greek New Testament texts. The King James translators had access to Hebrew and Greek texts, but I'm sure they were also familiar with the other English translations and at least the Vulgate. I would treat the different translations as (mostly) separate, but the parts of any one translation as (mostly) not.

By the way: if anyone wants to collapse any of my contribution above, feel free. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:50, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

But it seems that charmel/chermel/Carmel was just a transliteration of the Hebrew. Why do we define transliterations that are not attested by our usual standards? In the cases in which we translate what looks like a transliteration, eg, names of prepared food dishes from non-English speaking regions, we make sure, at least in principle, that there are three cookbooks that contain the expression in running English text. DCDuring (talk) 14:36, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

It seems that the Douay translator-editors, consulting various versions of the Biblical books (not just the Latin Vulgate) chose to leave in (as transliterations) words where the meaning was unclear. To me, charmel looks like an instance. DCDuring (talk) 14:54, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

chthonophagia

chthonophagy

Both seem to be found only in dictionaries, wordlists, and a few mentions ("words like chthonophagy"). Popularity perhaps boosted a bit by their being among the very few English words aside from chemical names to contain all of ph th ch. As for the definition ... I believe this is simply another word for geophagy, and that geophagy is a symptom of a disease formerly common around the Gulf region, rather than a disease in and of itself. So if we do manage to find cites for this, I think the definition will still need to be re-worked and most likely just changed to being a synonym of geophagy. —Soap— 15:29, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Shetlander

Rfv-sense "from, or related to, the Shetland Islands". As a noun, this is well-attested, but as an adjective? Zacwill (talk) 00:33, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Delete: seems like a clear attributive use of the noun. Can’t imagine it can be used comparatively as an adjective except in rather contrived situations. — Sgconlaw (talk) 12:07, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Foxheart

Does this surname actually exist? I could only find a single mention in a court case from the 1800s. All other uses were names of fictional characters. Vuccala (talk) 05:05, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Familysearch.org has records of a second real Foxheart, Lindsay Foxheart, the one mentioned in this obituary.
A "Mr. Foxheart" is mentioned here and a "Mrs Charity Foxheart" here; these seem to be works of fiction but the names in them seem mundane, not fantastical. This raises an interesting question: how do we handle generic {{given name}}s or {{surname}}s that are used in multiple, unrelated works of fiction, not as the name of one individual from one universe, but just as {{given name}}s or {{surname}}s?
My understanding has been that non-name terms used in 3+ unrelated works of e.g. sci fi are included as {{lb|foo|science fiction}} terms, e.g. transmat; the wording of WT:FICTION is somewhat unclear, but I've been taking "Terms originating in fictional universes which have three citations in separate works, but which do not have three citations which are independent of reference to that universe may be included only in appendices of words from that universe" to be concerned with terms attested only in reference to one fictional universe, meaning that generic sci fi terms used by writers of myriad different universes, like transmat, are fine. In that context, "With respect to names of persons or places from fictional universes, they shall not be included unless they are used out of context in an attributive sense" seems to be saying only that we can't have an entry on e.g. Korkie Kryze defined as this specific person (unless that person has attributes that people refer to out of context), not that we can't use works as fiction as cites in {{given name}} or {{surname}} entries, which we pervasively do (e.g. most of the cites of Amber are fiction). Of course, we could find evidence of three real Ambers if we needed to, whereas here we so far only have evidence of two Foxhearts. Still, I wonder if we use the fiction cites, together with the two real-world Foxhearts, to define this as {{lb|en|rare|;|often in|_|fiction}} {{surname|en}}.. What do you think? - -sche (discuss) 21:08, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

To answer your last question, yes, using two real-world cites along with a third fictional one, along with that lb, feels fine. But being so rare, if they still remember, I do wonder where @Romanophile found this name in the first place?

Anent your "interesting question", on my first read of your message a few days ago, I thought that was what you were asking my thoughts on. If that was the case to any degree, I'll paste the reply that's been lingering in my phone's notes app below.

I can see both pros and cons to having entries for thrice-citable fictional names. As a pro: definitions aren't always the most useful part of an entry. On entries like Daenerys (since become a given name) it's the pronunciation, etymology (incl. earliest use), reference link, and coinage category that are more useful than the actual definition. So the same could be true for other fiction names. For example, it might be interesting for someone (like a writer) to see what names from fiction already exist that start with Fox- or end in -heart (and what kinds of books, cited, they appear in), or to see how to pronounce a name like Aerith, or to find out what the historical reference is to a fictional character named Bombur.

But as a con (maybe?): since citability isn't limited to published works, and the amount of citable online amateur fiction is staggering, and character names are the most common kind of easy neologism, this would open the floodgates for a lot of new entries. Whether this would actually be an annoyance or problem for anyone, I don't know. Vuccala (talk) 01:47, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Grok

RfV both senses: in the proper noun sense, for uses passing WT:BRAND; in the verb sense, for uses in general. Durably archived, of course. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 18:49, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I feel the first sense should actually be RFD'd. MedK1 (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Both senses deserve an RFD, IMHO. For the first, Grok™ fails to pass WT:BRAND's citation criteria. For the second, its currency is dubious; I've never heard or read anybody say "Grokked" with reference to xAI's chatbot product, and the quotations given are tweets from a techbro and cryptobro with ostensibly vested interests in promoting AI on a platform they both have large followings on. In other words, the entries are on very shaky grounds. Having an entry for Grok™ feels akin to adding a definition to Gemini for Google's chatbot of the same name…

Moreover, having a capitalised Grok entry is more likely to confuse users who look up "grok" on Wiktionary with a capital G, and are presented with an entry completely irrelevant to the word's original, much older and established meaning and usage. — Alhadis (talk) 00:20, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

The way to delete both of these is by RfV, not RfD. WT:BRAND needs citations, which is what we’re looking for in an RfV anyway. And since, as you said, the word is mostly used on Twitter, which does not count for WT:ATTEST, it’s basically unattestable. Just give it a week. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 00:33, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Given that this bot/xAI is continuously in the news I suspect the verb might catch on, and then eclipse the original (lowercase) meaning. Jberkel 10:59, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Reese

The brand is Reese's, not "Reese", and the genericized trademark for a peanut butter cup is also Reese's as far as I can tell. Is Reese itself ever used that way? If so, it's probably a back-formation, with Reese's being reinterpreted as a plural. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:38, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

This one seems unlikely, but compare Pringle! ~2025-40329-17 (talk) 12:00, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, searches like google books:"eat a Reese" and google books:"eating a Reese" return results for "eat(ing) a Reese's" rather than bare "Reese", which makes this hard to search for (and none of the results I looked at would be any use at Reese's either BTW, as they all clarify somewhere in the same paragraph that it's a peanut butter cup). This grammar book has some sentences about Mary eating Reeses (plural, no apostrophe), and that's all I can find. The user who added it sure seems to create a lot of unattested entries. - -sche (discuss) 21:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Haumeid

Discussion moved from Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/English#Haumeid.

The term Haumeid was coined by the user Kwamikagami in this unreferenced Wikipedia edit from 20 October 2008. This term has not used in scientific publications all, from what I see on Google and journal papers related to this alleged term. The entry for "Haumeid" must be removed to prevent citogenesis. Nrco0e (talk) 21:31, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Nrco0e: we're a descriptive dictionary based on usage. The question is whether there's enough evidence of usage that meets WT:CFI. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:06, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

The person at fault in citogenesis is the one citing without properly checking sources — not the source. ~2025-40329-17 (talk) 11:59, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

If this was coined on Wikipedia, and if it is now attested outside of Wikipedia, then it's a kind of ghost word like Brazilian aardvark. I found one cite. It seems to also be some (fictional?) person's name. - -sche (discuss) 21:26, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

eKaren

Defined as "the eSafety Commissioner (Australia's Internet watchdog)" but this seems wrong: it is a specific nickname for Julie Inman Grant (the current holder of that role). ~2025-40329-17 (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

legacy sequel

Three senses (!): Wikipedia only has the third sense. There is very little in Google Books, and the main results include "AI" as a co-author, which makes them suspect; so I have not added those citations. ~2025-40329-17 (talk) 11:58, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

deadman

Obsolete for a corpse. "There is no deadman to be found at Deadman's Curve." The place name Deadman's Curve does not necessarily mean that deadman was used as an everyday common noun without a space. Was it, or not? ~2025-40329-17 (talk) 15:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

mischan

unattestableVealhurl (talk) 13:23, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

negasphere

fictional weaponVealhurl (talk) 13:24, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

It gets plenty of hits, but someone would need to check whether they're all by or about E. E. Smith, in which case this would probably fail FICTION, or are from different unrelated fictional universes by different authors, in which case this would be fine, like transmat, AFAICT. - -sche (discuss) 21:34, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

nazifur

Rfv-sense A furry who adopts Nazi symbolism and aesthetics and expresses a historical interest in Nazi Germany. Vealhurl (talk) 13:24, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

pithecophobia

Tagged in 2024 Vealhurl (talk) 13:26, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

A Google Books search finds enough uses that some meaning is probably attested, though we'd have to work out which one. - -sche (discuss) 21:36, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

tzitzith

plural of tzitzit. Vealhurl (talk) 13:33, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Probably a mistake for a plural form "tzitzioth" or for yet another alternate singular form "tzitzith" Hftf (talk) 14:05, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

xyresic

appears in wordbooks only? Vealhurl (talk) 13:35, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Looking at the deletion history, I see that this technically failed RFV before, back in 2006 (apparently before people archived discussions to talk pages; I have dragged it out of that archive and onto the talk page), but that's so long ago that I think it's worth letting this sit through a month of new RFV.
There's a use here ("These are xyresic attributes of leaders.") but it comes right after the word is defined, in a series of definitions of X-words the author is relating to business/leaders, so it could be debated whether that counts or is a "made-up example of how a word might be used". - -sche (discuss) 21:53, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

There's another borderline occurrence (again arguably a use, but in a vein with Squire Pedant) in The Joy of Words: A Bedside Book for English Lovers, but I can't find a third, searching both Google Books and Google Scholar and Archive.org. If there are any uses on the broader web, I can't find them because the existence of a company with this name crowds them out. - -sche (discuss) 01:31, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

osculate

adjective - the OED has it as a unattested zoology ghost word Vealhurl (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Why is it under an etymology separate from that of the verb? DCDuring (talk) 15:09, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

larvate

(medicine) Concealed; obscure; being a doubtful case of disease. Vealhurl (talk) 13:38, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Cited. I added a verb. - -sche (discuss) 22:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

genitally mutilate

Unlisted Vealhurl (talk) 20:39, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

floptok

unlisted Vealhurl (talk) 20:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

bakery

Rfv-sense A large pair of buttocks. - got deleted + reinstated, so another boring RFV, guys Vealhurl (talk) 20:43, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Is there a record of a previous RfD/RfV for this def.? DCDuring (talk) 20:47, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Sure. [78] Vealhurl (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

That's not a record of an RfD. DCDuring (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Beltlish

Tagged but not listed. Nominator doesn't realize that CFI actually prefers a fandom term to an in-universe one. Ultimateria (talk) 04:55, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

postmodern patient

"A patient who ultimately trusts their own judgement of their health before a doctor's". Seems to be limited to one work. Ultimateria (talk) 05:08, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

the Nether

WT:FICTION. Jberkel 08:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

also related terms, e.g. Nether highway. Jberkel 07:41, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Nether highway is a little different since it originated in the playerbase rather than in-game text or any communications from Microsoft. IMO it should be treated the way we treat ship names. That said it seems a bit SOP.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 18:05, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

mox

I've added etymology of it as a clipping of slang moxie. And also added noun & adjective of it in sense of games as a magical gemstone. In noun I also included it as a slang for energy, vigor, courage and pluck – though I am not 100% sure, I think I've heard it in some contexts of as energy and/or vigor. Pan1blG (talk) 14:17, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

anti-anti-

Rfv-sense: "Very opposed to." (See also Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium/2025/December#anti-anti- or anti- + anti-? questioning whether this is SOP like great-great-, re-re-, etc.) - -sche (discuss) 20:07, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The only example I know of (not having searched) is "anti-anti-semitism" (various hyphenations), in which "anti-anti" isn't an intensifier, as stated in the entry, but a double negative: it's opposition to anti-semitism, not extreme anti-semitism. P Aculeius (talk) 05:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

RfV-failed. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 18:46, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

yes homo

— Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 23:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

It's a memetic phrase, but generally in ephemeral speech, so it's hard to find examples in books; most of what I could find at Google Books and Scholar are transcriptions and discussions of speech: Citations:yes homo. (Underwood and Riley are mentions, but useful for providing information about it. Potts and Korre are quoting conversations, but Korre, at least, seems as usable as e.g. a play would be.) - -sche (discuss) 04:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Mirab Soro

"Spatial loction of the district in Hadiya zone". jlwoodwa (talk) 04:56, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

The definition is oddly worded but this entry is fine otherwise, 'Mirab Soro' appears (as a red link) on w:Hadiya Zone and I can find it on Google Maps. We should just rewrite it as 'district in the Hadiya zone' and leave it as that. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 07:53, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

divast

Laid waste. OED suggests nonce word. Vealhurl (talk) 13:07, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

en

English entry: "abbreviation of English". When is it used lower-case like this in English? Note we've already got it as Translingual (the ISO 639-1 language code for English). ~2025-40955-06 (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Related discussion: Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2025/November#User:Netizen3102_and_etymologies_of_ISO_639_lang_codes~~ Hftf (talk) 04:41, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I'd summarily remove this as garbage, if not for the fact that it's been the leading sense in the entry for more than 20 years!

I find it hard to believe this could be found as a noun in running text. If not, then it is merely a "code", which duplicates the Translingual entry. This, that and the other (talk) 09:47, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Skyblock

Specific "product" for Minecraft (ugh always more Minecraft — it used to be Pokémon). Needs generic use. ~2025-40955-06 (talk) 20:52, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

angel mom

Two senses were tagged last year but not listed: "A mother whose child has died." and "(US, right-wing politics) A mother whose child was killed by an illegal immigrant." (Brief prior discussion at Wiktionary:Tea room/2018/June#angel mom.)
This uses Angel Moms (capitalized) in sense 1, all mothers who lost children from all different causes (and then it talks about Trump's embrace specifically of the subset who "experienced loss of loved one from some illegal immigrants"). This is using Angel Moms (capitalized) in sense 2, though it includes the curious parenthetical "These Angel Moms (whether moms or not)"; this is also using Angel Moms (capitalized) in sense 2. Probably sense 2 (and possibly sense 1) is citeable with a little more effort, but because all of these cites use the term as the capitalized name of a specific organization, I wonder whether changes need to be made to our entry to reflect that, or whether lowercase use, and/or use for just any mother who lost a child (to an immigrant if sense 2 or to anything if sense 1) — not just a member of the specific organization — also exists. (This is using angel-moms, lowercase, in some other sense, probably covered by the &lit, and this, capitalized, is also AFAICT some other sense, probably also covered by the &lit.) - -sche (discuss) 22:18, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

elephant sink

Can't find it outside of this Answers.com page [79]. ~2025-41296-93 (talk) 23:08, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

matutolypea

There are more than a few hits for this in Google Books, but they all seem to be mentions of the "did you know there's a word for this" type. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:33, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I found this book and this one that aren’t describing matutolypea as a rare word but as an emotion. This book might also describe the term as an emotion. QwertyZ34 (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@QwertyZ34: books in other languages don't count as usage- especially a translation of a book already given as a citation. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I believe this can work as it is English. There is also this that serves as a quotation in the entry, and for One Look there is two matching dictionaries entries, with one working. QwertyZ34 (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Inclusion only in such rare-word dictionaries and in a words of the week blog is not encouraging of its entry-worthiness. Not every lemming is worth following. DCDuring (talk) 19:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

This page is not from a rare-word dictionary nor from a week blog QwertyZ34 (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

You only needed to link to it once. So far it's the only book that's arguably a use, not a mention, and repeatedly linking to it and to its translations in other languages isn' going to change that. By the way: your links will only work properly for someone on a mobile device in France. Everyone else has to figure out technical ways to work around that. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:34, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I live in France-- in w:Open Library, the term appears to be in the Mrs Byrne's Dictionary, which can be used as a reference with the template Mrs Byrne's Dictionary QwertyZ34 (talk) 20:04, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I would add that this was coined by someone unfamiliar with the formation of latinate technical terms. The usual etymon would be some derivative of the adjective mātūtīnus, not the proper noun it came from. It definitely has an amateurish quality to it. Of course, if people picked it up and used it in English independent of the source, we would include it- but it doesn't look promising. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

dividant

Adjective only used in Shakespeare? There's a noun sense - obsolete spelling of dividend Vealhurl (talk) 09:47, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

elimate

OED only has quotes from dictionaries, including one stating not used. First quote goes back to 1623, proving that it can take 403 years for crap to be removed from wordbooks... Vealhurl (talk) 10:50, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

I looked in EEBO and found various noun uses (probably errors) and one verb use that is explicitly listed as an erratum for eliminate.

Most GBooks results are errors for eliminate, although after the failure of the EEBO search I didn't feel the need to look at very many results.

This can go to Appendix:English dictionary-only terms methinks. This, that and the other (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

cacajão

Alternative form of Cacajao (which is a genus) added by I don laik wiksoneri. Portuguese according to Merriam-Webster. J3133 (talk) 13:42, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

probably Portuguese ~2025-43196-98 (talk) 08:32, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Sinkiang-Tibet Time Zone

"If it cannot be verified that this term meets our attestation criteria, it will be deleted. Feel free to edit this entry as normal, but do not remove rfv until the request has been resolved."
Regardless of the RfD [80], I believe this fails RfV. Hence I re-nominate for RfV while there is an ongoing RfD which looks like it will fail or take decades of navel gazing to come to a conclusion.
Three cites or it didn't happen. There are not three cites afaik, hence it didn't happen, q.e.d., viz., et al.
--Geographyinitiative 🎵 (talk) 13:46, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Seems to be a Wikipedian's calque of 新藏時區. It was mentioned in the relevant Wikipedia article at the time of the writing of this essay, and also at the time that this forum poster was trying to work out what time of day the Dalai Lama was born. Nothing in GBooks. This, that and the other (talk) 09:27, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

RFV-failed This, that and the other (talk) 09:52, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

e-kitten

“Online girlfriend”. J3133 (talk) 13:51, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

gha

w:gha, a letter. Is this actually in use, or is this one of Unicode's letter names invented for convenience (setting aside the fact that GHA is an alias because they misnamed it upon introduction...) —Fish bowl (talk) 07:02, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Boljenjeg

Not sure what User:Sheldonium is based on, this editor added a lot of English names which is from South Slavic langs. Already ten years, needs to be cleaned. — This unsigned comment was added by Chihunglu83 (talk • contribs).

It is in this book, and also mentioned on this forum thread as among the "oldest Croatian names recorded by Petar Šimunović". But this isn't even enough evidence for a Serbo-Croatian entry, let alone an English one. This, that and the other (talk) 09:18, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

RFV-failed. @Chihunglu83 do you want to RFV other names added by this user? This, that and the other (talk) 09:50, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi, thank you, yes, if someone can really checked everything by this user. I guess all those added are 13 c. names then. Chihunglu83 (talk) 10:05, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Armae

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:20, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

dracin

Rfv-sense (informal) (Fandom slang) A Chinese drama. Vealhurl (talk) 20:55, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

puppygirl

Rfv-sense: dog-eared kemonomimi. I've only seen doggirl for this. MedK1 (talk) 08:01, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

saint

Rfv-sense: supposed "prefix":

1. (toponymy) Capitalized and placed before another term, particularly personal names, to create placename without direct association to any religious character.

Added by a Canadian IP in 2021, and questioned by @LlywelynII on the talk page:

It's generally accepted elsewhere in Wikt to count entirely separate words as "prefixes"?

Further, if ever actually used, it would inevitably be capitalized. Isn't this the wrong typecase for this sense?

Any examples of its use? This, that and the other (talk) 09:06, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't think this is even true and would RFV that usage. Many, many places in French-speaking Canada are named after saints and I am doubtful that they were "without direct association to any religious character" at the time they were named. And yes, this should be capitalized. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 20:10, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

I vaguely recall seeing various sarcastic or humorous usage to form nicknames (like the fictional "St. Elsewhere") or imaginary names for institutions like schools and hospitals, things like (made-up example) "He went to Saint None-of-Your-Business-Stop-Being-Nosy". I suppose someone might do that for placenames, too, but that's arguably not lexical, and definitely neither a prefix nor lowercase. Something similar is at work in terms such as nowheresville. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:49, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Those are more snowclones than evidence of saint as a prefix. You can use san the same way (e.g. San Torum High School in Another Gay Movie) or "Our Lady of X" (e.g. Our Lady of Perpetual Responsibility in Lake Wobegon). —Mahāgaja · talk 21:04, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

ac-

Rfv-sense: "(in place names) oak". This, that and the other (talk) 09:08, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

arreptitious

A double-sense (should be split?) based on an ancient dictionary's definition: "Taken away; also sneaked in surreptitiously". ~2025-42683-55 (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

drearing

OED only has 1 hit. Most hits on Google Books are lineops for "childrearing" Vealhurl (talk) 19:48, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

dumous

+dumose. Dictionary-only??? Vealhurl (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

This reminds me of the scientific name of the mallee tree, Eucalyptus dumosa. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a couple of uses of the English word in reference to this. Will look. This, that and the other (talk) 13:41, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

duse

sense Demon, devil. There's an old (Middle English, methynkes) verb form of do missing from WT, though Vealhurl (talk) 22:26, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Paulstretch

Added as in a sense of computer algorithm for audio processing (specifically for time stretching). — This unsigned comment was added by Pan1blG (talk • contribs).

There is a (proper) noun Paulstretch, with big P. And I've seen people in music, sound/sound engineering space to use/write it as paulstretch, with small p. It's used either as a noun with a sense of an effect referred to a time stretch (commonly used as uncountable, but I've rarely seen it as countable – as paulstretches), as a verb (with -es, -ing and -ed suffixes), and in some cases I think it was used as a verbal noun and gerund. Pan1blG (talk) 15:09, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Hmm, this is an interesting one. This isn't a brand name or trademark in the traditional sense, so it seems unreasonable to apply WT:BRAND (which would kill the entry as written). The term is used in a few books (for instance, here referred to as a "digital application"). And the verb forms are easy to find in a web search. So there is potential here. This, that and the other (talk) 10:26, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

holdback

Verb: "To set up a holdback." Only 1 GBooks hit for "holdbacking", for example. The citations are not convincing and both (being the infinitive) might just be errors for hold back. ~2025-42961-25 (talk) 17:21, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

purple

Verb: US slang: To pursue the opposite gender in inappropriate circumstances, usually of adolescents. From the metaphor of mixing blue [boys] and pink [girls]. — How and when would this be used? Does a teacher tell her class, "Don't purple on the school trip"? ~2025-42961-25 (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm too old to have heard this in use, but from teachers describing what they would say to their students, I believe it goes something like: "boys are blue, girls are pink- I don't want to see any purple on this trip." In that context it would be a noun, used as a euphemistic metaphor that leaves all the details to the imagination. I suppose someone might interpret this a replacement for some other word or phrase and give the POS and definition for that. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

I'll add a usex or two to the entry. It's used in Canada at well. For instance, I've heard it at a summer camp: "I've noticed some purpling" or "A couple of the counsellors have been purpling." Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:59, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

ecbasis

Rfv-sense A figure in which the orator treats things according to their events or consequences.OED suggests this is wrong, though there is a word ecbasis Riptyçç (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

moron

Rfv-sense: (philosophy) A hypothetical particle whose existence and configuration can make a moral judgment true.

Looks quite unlikely to me. Cannot find any proof either. Not in Onelook dictionaries, Google searches produce nothing. --Hekaheka (talk) 01:41, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I could imagine it coming from a single late-20th century philosopher and being taken up by others. Google Scholar? DCDuring (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

The term came from Ronald Dworkin. The earliest use I found was in a snippet from 1998. GScholar has more than 50 occurrences, perhaps not all of which are mentions. DCDuring (talk) 16:57, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

glib

Rfv-sense To castrate; to geld; to emasculate. Used in Shakespeare. Little else-found Riptyçç (talk) 17:07, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

ghost

Rfv-sense "A false image formed in a telescope, camera or other optical device". One of many tagged but not listed RFV senses that need bringing here. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 01:48, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Widespread use, IMO. Should be reworded to not be exclusively for optical devices, eg. radar, not from specific causes. DCDuring (talk) 15:54, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

I note that we also had "An unwanted image similar to and overlapping or adjacent to the main one on a television screen, caused by the transmitted image being received both directly and via reflection." Were these intentionally and correctly different senses or should they be combined into one sense which is, as DCDuring says, not specific to optical devices? I have tentatively combined them into "A false image, for example in a photographic print or negative, or on a television screen or radar display, or in a telescope, caused by poor or double reception or reflection (from a lens or screen)." Does that seem correct to y'all? Re-split them if it doesn't. - -sche (discuss) 19:02, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

ghost 2

Several other senses were also tagged by someone some time ago, including:

• A dead person whose identity is stolen by another (see ghosting).
• (theater) An understudy.

"Someone whose identity cannot be established because there are no records of such a person." was also tagged but is trivially obviously real so I've untagged it after adding a few cites; likewise "(uncountable) A game in which players take turns to add a letter to a possible word, trying not to complete a word." - -sche (discuss) 19:02, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

elocation

Rfv-sense A removal from the usual place of residence. - just a tyop/scannop for relocation??? Also, defn 2 Departure from the usual state; an ecstasy. is kinda dodgy Riptyçç (talk) 13:13, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

No, not a typo. See e- prefix. ~2025-43899-92 (talk) 08:04, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Trumpenstein

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 12 January 2026.

Twitter has it. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 15:55, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Failed. Twitter is not regarded as durably archived. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:51, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

pyridoxylated, as an erroneous form of pyridoxalated

Rfv-sense:

*Often [[pyridoxylated]] is erroneously used for this.

A usage note on pyridoxalated, tagged in May 2025.

@Graeme Bartlett —Fish bowl (talk) 05:41, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

The reason it is wrong is that it is supposed to be derived from "pyridoxal", with the "a". I suppose I should prove that pyridoxylated has the same meaning as pyridoxalated.

The first use of "pyridoxylated" I can find is in https://doi.org/10.1159/isbn.978-3-318-04714-1 in December 1969 https://books.google.com.au/books?id=w_o3EQAAQBAJ&pg=PA134 where it is clear that "pyridoxylated" means reacted with pyridoxal phosphate. Here you can see that "pyidoxalated" means the same thing: https://doi.org/10.1016/S0021-9258(19)81263-2 . There are over 1000 academic publications with each of these spelling as seen on Google scholar. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:34, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Spurious forms of togedere

Middle English; togeidder, togeidur, and toguider were apparently entered in the MED for attested to geydder, togeydur, toguyder (alternative forms of togedere), following their highly questionable practice of normalising alternative forms, while toyader appears to be a mistake of theirs. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 19:08, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

@Hazarasp: what's the coverage of Middle English works at Google Books and the Internet Archive like? I was just thinking that if the coverage isn't very good, then whatever quotations are reproduced in the MED might be all that we can go on. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:29, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

It's decent for modern editions, but doesn't cover the original manuscripts (in any case, Google's OCR would struggle to decipher them). Anyway, my Google Books searches didn't turn up Middle English attestations: togeidder has a few for Middle Scots, while toguider has a few for Early Modern English (toguider is attested in what purports to be a royal warrant of Henry V's, but its spelling looks suspiciously modernised, so the original might actually read to guider, toguidyr, toguyder, or something). Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 12:10, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

@Hazarasp Unless something has changed that I'm not aware of, this should be at WT:RFVN. We routinely fail things on this page for having no cites after 1500. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:59, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz: I think there was a vote on this. See the description at the top of this page: "This page is for entries in English as well as Middle English, Scots, Yola and Fingallian" (emphasis added). — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:24, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

@Hazarasp: well, for what it's worth, I did a search of the OED entry together and did not find any instances of togeidder, togeidur, or toguider, or their spaced counterparts. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:34, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

January 2026

enchyma

as opposed to -enchyma. Webster 1913 definition. Vealhurl (talk) 14:06, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

But it's just a historical term, isn't it? Century (c. 1910) has "A liquid elaborated from chyme and used in the formation of the living cells and tissues.", which seems much better. DCDuring (talk) 16:17, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

There may be another sense, not just a more modern definition. DCDuring (talk) 16:42, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

I've added a few modern derived terms from GScholar, only level-1 derivatives (most of which we have), ie, ignoring terms like pseudoparenchymatous. Enchyma and its derivatives make a small dent in the claimed gap between the number of lexemes in the "whole" language and those included in general dictionaries. DCDuring (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

roomal

Rfv-sense NNS Of or pertaining to a room Vealhurl (talk) 18:30, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

reformistly

Just doesn't seem to exist. ~2025-43899-92 (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

aretecracy

Appears to be only used by a single author. I cannot verify the other sources on the page, but if real, they are likely mentions. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 03:31, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

The majority of sources listed seem to be for Spanish aretecracia, not English aretecracy, anyway. —Mahāgaja · talk 17:56, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

That’s a fair point. It’s true that the Spanish form *aretecracia* currently appears more frequently in the literature.

That said, there is documented usage of the English form *aretecracy* as well, including a peer-reviewed journal article published in English (Beyond Populism and Plutocracy, 2024) and an official submission to the United Nations Economic and Social Council (2020), where the English term is used.

So while usage in English is more limited at present, it does seem to be attested in academic and institutional contexts. Konnan2000 (talk) 00:35, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this. Just to clarify, the term does not appear to be limited to a single author.

There is one peer-reviewed article by an independent author (Iriarte-Angarita, 2020), as well as usage in official institutional documents, including a United Nations ECOSOC submission and legislative materials from Peru and Colombia. These seem to go beyond mere passing mentions and show the term being used in analytical and policy contexts.

All of these sources are listed in the Further reading section for verification. Konnan2000 (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

dominicide

The OED entry only lists dictionaries. J3133 (talk) 12:58, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

thwart

Apparently

*þwerhaz gives derivation from *(s)twerH- ('to stir; to propel')

*þwerana gives derivation from *terkʷ-

Is it that one influenced the other, conflation, or from either root? Someone clean the etymology up. Ronaldo sewie (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

A little tip or reminder, you can use {{rfv-term|en|text you want to highlight}} instead of RFV the whole entry :) ~2026-73860-7 (talk) 04:48, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

snitch

Verb, "To contact or cooperate with the police for any reason." This seems to me to be something added to express a political sentiment that cooperating with the police is a violation of an anti-snitching ethos, rather than an actual gloss of real usages. But I could be wrong.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 17:53, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

To me, this seems to be a denominal use of snitch ("someone who is buddy-buddy with the police"), hence "to be a snitch; be be-snitch-ing; act in a way typical of snitches, whether one is actually informing or not (but could inform if given an opportunity)" - which can be used by those who do crime to identify those who have good relations and open communication with law enforcement Leasnam (talk) 04:24, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

sportaldislexicartaphobia

-phobia word; none of the citations provided is from durably archived sources ragweed theater _{talk, user} 18:08, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

unfeaty

The OED has only the same one quotation by Sidney. J3133 (talk) 10:50, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

pyrotheology

"An interpretation that views faith as a particular way of engaging with the world rather than a set of beliefs about the world." — This term seems very rare, but from what I can tell, it has something to do with fire-worship (hence pyro-)... There does seem to have been some book written by one Peter Rollins that uses the term in a special sense, but I doubt that's anything for a general-purpose dictionary. User:Box16 ? ~2026-65862 (talk) 01:13, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

my people yearn for freedom

Any cites that aren't tweets? This also seems SOP-y. Zacwill (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

directed infinity

Based on the discussion at w:Talk:Directed infinity (entry deleted), the expression is likely unattestable by our standards. DCDuring (talk) 13:51, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

eterminable

Just the Skelton quote, which is Middle English? There are scannops for determinable, of course, to ignore. Vealhurl (talk) 21:00, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

@Vealhurl: John Skelton just about makes it into early modern English, I think. (See {{RQ:Skelton Poetical Works}}.) — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:52, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

translon

Rfv-sense "an RNA region decoded by the ribosome". Recently added by an IP, and new editors started adding references to it. They claim it's a new term. If so, this reeks of self-promotion/a protologism. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 23:09, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

even

Rfv-sense (obsolete) Associate; fellow; of the same condition.

Only supported by a 14th century quote from Wycliffe (“His even servant”), so seems to be Middle English. I suspect this is another instance of mindless plagiarism from the OED. Theknightwho (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

OED indeed only has Old and Middle English evidence for this sense. The only survival into Modern English appears to be the set phrase even-Christian. This, that and the other (talk) 05:26, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

rownsepyked

Only in Jones. Ultimateria (talk) 01:19, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Trans-Siberian

Discussion moved from WT:RFDE#Trans-Siberian.

Nonstandard use of capitalization. Vex-Vectoꝛ​​ 09:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

It's an alt form, I would allow it. But transsiberian is much more dubious. DonnanZ (talk) 13:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

The prefix trans- is not normally capitalized, nor is the word trans-Siberian a proper adjective. To capitalize the T is nonstandard per capitalization of English words. It is not a valid form of the word, nor is it notable enough as a nonstandard form to merit inclusion, and should be deleted. It appears to be mistakenly reanalysed from Trans-Siberian Railway, which is indeed a proper noun.

On the other hand, transsiberian follows the older tradition of uncapitalizing a proper noun when it comes before a prefix (cf. other examples such as transalpine, transamerican, or transneptunian). This is perfectly standard in the English language, and is highly attested. What exactly do you find to be, “much more dubious”? Vex-Vectoꝛ​​ 15:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed explanation. A reminder to Donnanz that whether you personally like or loathe a word bears no relevance in our inclusion, and stating your opinions thus can be confusing and misleading in a formal procedure. Inqilābī 18:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

That's hardly necessary, but I did forget about transatlantic. DonnanZ (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

• I've searched for quotes with an uppercase T in multiple places, and everything I found was talking about the railway. I've added some quotes to the proper noun (railway) sense where Trans-Siberian could be read as an adjective, but I think it makes more sense in every case to read it as an ellipsis of the proper noun. I think the adjective sense has to go. — excarnateSojourner (ta·co) 03:39, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

We keep non-standard spellings too, and this is not a valid ground to rfd an entry. If you doubt its attestation, then go over to WT:RFVE. Inqilābī 15:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

So be it, then. Vex-Vectoꝛ​​ 15:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

• The nominator changed the tag in the entry to be an RFV, so I've moved the discussion accordingly. — excarnateSojourner (ta·co) 03:39, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

We do delete rare misspellings, though. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, but possibly RfV I would agree with Inqilābī's assessment that the nominator didn't provide valid grounds for deletion Purplebackpack89 03:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: I've added a proper noun sense, since "Trans-Siberian" is sometimes used to refer to the Trans-Siberian Railway. Theknightwho (talk) 17:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

  Funnily enough, I just added a quote for that. DonnanZ (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

gosari namul

I found one instance of this in Korean Instant Pot Cookbook. I didn't look in GNews or GScholar. DCDuring (talk) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

namul is a fairly common term in names for Korean dishes; gosari ("fernbrake") not so much. DCDuring (talk)

can we cite gosari instead? it must surely be used in more than just this one dish, right? then the questioned term would be SOP since namul is already listed. —Soap— 23:39, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

put another way, i see 3 cites for gosari namul, but most of them also use gosari, and therefore we'd hjave 3 cites for that too, and then this would become automatically SOP, so i'd rather just cite gosari. even if it is just used in this one dish. —Soap— 23:41, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Do your best. DCDuring (talk) 23:52, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

nudy rudy

"Naked." Searches mostly find a brand of soap. ~2026-16952-9 (talk) 23:03, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I was able to find a bunch of stuff by using the spelling "nudie rudie", although I could only find two even quasi-durable cites where it's an adverb. Simplificationalizer (talk) 03:27, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

this should be easily citable, though perhaps the -ie spelling is actually more common. i'm pretty sure i won't be able to find the webcomic i refer to in the edit history, so i will look for other cites with this spelling. however, regarding the part of speech, i created this as an adjective, because that's what naked is, and i'd assume that if naked is still an adjective in phrases like sleep naked then so too would this be. —Soap— 07:40, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

i believe naked is an adjective in the phrase sleep naked because it modifies the noun (the person sleeping), not the verb. and that is how we currently list it on the naked entry. following that logic there should be no separate adverb entry here and no need to look for three more cites. however my logic also leads me to believe drunk is an adjective in drive drunk (compare drive slowly, where the adverb really does describe the verb and not the driver), but we currently list that as an adverb as well. —Soap— 23:25, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Per the emerging consensus on this related discussion, i think the word is an adjective and that three cites with the -y spelling should suffice. i may not be able to find them, but i'm still looking. it seems for such an informal term, people may not think too much about the spelling ... i even found an example of nudie-rudy, for example. —Soap— 19:45, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

book bowel

"A bowel movement as a result of the Mariko Aoki phenomenon." I don't see how a "bowel" (body part) can be a bowel movement. The linked WP article does not seem to provide evidence for this usage either. ~2026-16952-9 (talk) 04:49, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm aware that a "bowel" itself cannot be a "movement", but to "(have a) Book Bowel" seems to be a shortening of "(having a) book bowel tendency," which consists of movements.

There are plenty of attestations that verify the term's usage, but I am open to the definition I provided being inadequate. Feel free to adjust/rephrase the definition as needed. -- Alexander Patmos (talk) 06:07, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

endless galaxy

midnight in Tokyo

Color names taken from lists. Added by the same user responsible for Talk:18th century green. This, that and the other (talk) 05:04, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

black glaze

I would add benthic black, for which all but one of the hits are things like [benthic] [black rockfish], and illicit darkness and black glaze, for which the hits likewise look SOP. - -sche (discuss) 09:51, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

alderworst

Searching EEBO only turned up Chaucer. The entry has a quote of Shakespeare, and I guess he meant "worst of all", but it is written as two words, elder worse (albeit with no matching sense at elder). Even if we somehow accept that quote, that is only one Modern use of the three needed. @Ioaxxere as creator. This, that and the other (talk) 05:16, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

It suggests on this website[81] that Shakespeare basically meant ‘later’ or ‘of older men’ rather than ‘of all’ when he wrote ‘elder’ here, though your suggestion that he is instead using ‘elder’ as an alternative form of ‘alder-‘ (‘of all’) seems more plausible. The fact that the Bard chose to write ‘elder worst’ rather than ‘elderworst’ is strange in this case though. Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:16, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

even-servant

The only use available is Wycliffe (see #even above → Talk:even). I also found this possible use, but I think it's at least likely that this is a typical adverbial use of even. This, that and the other (talk) 05:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

I think that's adverbial. Leasnam (talk) 04:43, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

even-bishop

Can't find this at all. Not in OED. This, that and the other (talk) 05:36, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

evenmete

Not Modern. This, that and the other (talk) 05:40, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Move to Middle English. Leasnam (talk) 03:38, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

aw

Rfv-sense:

(childish) Used to anticipate reporting to a person in authority that the listener has done something wrong.

Aww, you said a bad word!

What? The definition seems overly specific, if the sense is even real at all. I'd like to see some evidence (WT:ATTEST). This sense is not in Urban Dictionary under various spellings I checked, which makes me more doubtful.

Ping @BFDICream as creator. This, that and the other (talk) 03:04, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

I would say that the example sentence is just an instance of sense 2, expressing disapproval. The definition above may accurately represent the speaker's overall thought process, but it is not a meaning of the word "aw". P Aculeius (talk) 20:01, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, I heard this a lot growing up, and there are a couple of variants of this (oh, ooh).

I guess I can see how this definition might be in sense 2, but it still feels different from just plain disapproval. It feels more like, a warning or a tease. BFDICream (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

I have no doubt that countless people heard it as children, but the word "aw" by itself doesn't have any more specific meaning than an interjection expressing alarm, concern, or disapproval—perhaps ironically, as the speaker enjoys a moment of schadenfreude, but that would be no different from any other expression used sarcastically, with no new or additional meaning. Compare "uh-oh". While the other words it's used with, the tone or body language of the speaker, or other circumstances may convey the speaker's intention or thought process, they don't change the meaning of the interjection. Remember, the circumstances in which anything is said may affect how it's interpreted or understood by listeners, without giving rise to unique definitions of the individual words. P Aculeius (talk) 22:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Okay, so that sense of aw doesn't deserve its own spot, but how about a usage note? BFDICream (talk) 11:35, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Not convinced; but let's see what other people have to say about that idea: whether it's worthwhile, and how it might be worded. To me, it's just one of several words that could all be used similarly, but without any new or distinct meaning. P Aculeius (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

@BFDICream how does this work, then? Is it like this: Alice says a bad word; Bob says "Aww! You said a bad word!"; then Bob immediately runs over to the parent/kindergarten teacher/... and says "Alice said a bad word!"

To me it sounds identical to the sense as in the following scenario: Alice and Bob are playing a game and Alice loses; Bob says to Alice "Aww! You lost!". Is this simply a sarcastic/mocking use of sense 1? This, that and the other (talk) 10:22, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

The first example is the sense I was talking about (which now that I think about it, is a mix of shock and warning), but I'd imagine it said with a rising tone. The second example though... is just mockery; I'd say it with the same tone as "Awww~!" (as in "that's so cute"), but yeah. That just feels like a more sarcastic version of sense 1. BFDICream (talk) 00:35, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Probably synonym of the playground um: "An expression of shocked disapproval used by a child who witnesses forbidden behavior." As in: UM, I'M TELLING! ~2026-28366-2 (talk) 10:27, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

It might as well be. BFDICream (talk) 00:24, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

My feeling is that the circumstances in which an interjection is commonly used might justify a usage example, without constituting as separate definition. I think that a usage note would be excessive, and the need for one obviated by such an example. I'll add that the difficulty formulating a precise definition for just this one use goes to show how vague the concept is—much more vague than any child using it could consciously intend! 22:27, 16 January 2026 (UTC) P Aculeius (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

stroot

Only used by Chapman? Vealhurl (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

brood

Rfv-sense "to be bred"; removed out of process in diff. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 19:06, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

siderophile

Rfv-sense: senses relating to cells or tissues. This, that and the other (talk) 07:33, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

consectary

Rfv-sense adjective- consequent. Obsolete if citeable. ~2026-12941-7 (talk) 14:50, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Cited; the most recent cite I found was from 1911. (The OED has two more.) - -sche (discuss) 02:34, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

consertion

Possible error, the quote was originally written as concertion

~2026-12941-7 (talk) 14:55, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Schlunnbach

- -sche (discuss) 02:21, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Grauliz; Dazachacon

Delete Grauliz (may be an old German form of Graulitz, but not English).

Dazachacon is real - there's a family in the US with this surname (Edwin, Jessica), although they usually spell it DazaChacon, and I can only find those two individuals (we have typically insisted on evidence of the existence of three bearers of the name, even if not durably archived). The origin is the Spanish (?) surname Daza Chacón. This, that and the other (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Zogamme, Mottonche, Frontand, Corguilin, Touvarin, Crottiaux, Gilaxis, Barmsann

Delete all. No English Google hits besides our mirrors. Crottiaux may be a real French surname but does not deserve an English entry. The one English hit for Barmsann is a scanno for Barmann. This, that and the other (talk) 00:52, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Fisaumme, Sarboniere, Gremantre, Parcelland, Fosan, Monfand, Glainnoux, Egonse, Domeset

Delete all. Results for "Parcelland", "Fosan", "Domeset" are polluted by unrelated topics but one sees the pattern. "Egonse" is a real Dutch name (not sure if given or surname) but not English. This snippet mentions someone called "Arso Domeset", but not enough. This, that and the other (talk) 10:16, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Ericsdott, Oskerlind

Same user as #endless galaxy et al. - -sche (discuss) 04:51, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Flavine, Pers, Christaiana

Given names. - -sche (discuss) 18:33, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Eloux

Plural "Elouxs" is also suspect. - -sche (discuss) 04:23, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Cristaux

Plural "Cristauxs" is also suspect. This user created a lot of crap. - -sche (discuss) 04:23, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Cander

Rfv-sense "A male given name from German." I can find scattered uses, but some are as a surname and some are as a female given name; the etymology is not clear in any of them. - -sche (discuss) 03:24, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Thomapson

the only hits seem like typos in works that also use Thompson. - -sche (discuss) 03:47, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Clovin

Entered as a surname. I see a few hits for this as a given name, and a hit or two as a surname; unclear if it's common enough to meet CFI. - -sche (discuss) 04:29, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Henrille, Contot, Klemetsson

English? - -sche (discuss) 04:51, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

bunny grass

Rfv-sense "wood sorrel". I added this sense since I'm familiar with it from childhood, but I'm not able to find any evidence, use or mention, anywhere online, and I'm inclined to write it off as a hyperlocalism, perhaps just my elementary school.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 18:31, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm not finding any organism (not even Lagurus ovata, which has lots of vernacular names with hare, bunny, and rabbit) with the vernacular name bunny grass at Wikispecies, Wikipedia, iNaturalist, GRIN, or GBooks. General Google search yielded a cultivar of a dwarf fountain grass (Pennisetum aloperuroides "Little Bunny"). I can't find a connection of Oxalis spp. (woodsorrel), with bunny except for a plush toy called "Sorrel Bunny" and:

"Is sorrel safe for bunnies?

Their strong spicy flavour can cause mouth and throat irritations to your bunny. Sorrel is a small green herb, which is edible for us, but you should never feed it to the rabbit. Sorrel is highly toxic for them and may even lead to their death. The herb can cause damage to your rabbit's kidneys."

HTH. DCDuring (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

sidepath

Rfv-sense: (OpenStreetMap) Any path located alongside a roadway, when it is mapped as a separate way. This, that and the other (talk) 03:51, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

bikini

"A brief bathing suit worn by men." This seems to be just sense 1 (woman's bathing suit) with a citation giving an exceptional case of a man wearing one. Can it be cited as a distinct sense referring to a different object? ~2026-28366-2 (talk) 10:31, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

I think this is actually an example of a missing sense, in which the word bikini refers only to the briefs (or bottom half of a two-piece swimsuit). I've heard this used for women ("I lost my bikini!"), referring only to the bottoms and not the top, and a similarly brief men's swimsuit is also sometimes called a "bikini" or "bikini briefs" (almost invariably in the plural, as with most bottoms). I believe it may be synonymous with the generic use of the brand-name "Speedo" to refer to a brief (men's) swimsuit that only covers the genitals in front, though it may be more generous in back. I'm probably not the best person to find citations for this use of "bikini" to refer to briefs alone for both men and women, but I'm pretty sure that this can be cited with some work. P Aculeius (talk) 05:53, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

I think you are correct. Just Googling or Google Image searching "men's bikini" turns up lots of clothing stores selling what might otherwise be termed "bikini bottoms" as "bikinis". I have tentatively revised the definition and added some citations (mostly to the citations page). - -sche (discuss) 18:38, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

if the shoe fits, wear it

Rfv-sense: "If it works, there is not a problem using it. Often a response to being judged when using an incorrect tool." - -sche (discuss) 21:50, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

swevening

Not in EEBO or the EDD; the OED's last attestation is dated 1423, while Google Books only returns Middle English texts modernised spelling. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 08:04, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

inamiableness

Listed as a related term in inamiable since the entry was created in 2011 by Equinox. It appears in many dictionaries but I could only find one use. J3133 (talk) 19:52, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Created citations page and tentatively added it to Appendix:English dictionary-only terms. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 16:07, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

• RFV resolved Vealhurl (talk) 13:18, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

redstone

Seems this was never sent here. Needs to satisfy WT:FICTION. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 07:21, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

junk

Rfv-sense "(transitive, intransitive, informal) To consume junk food, mainly at a fast-food restaurant." — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 17:54, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

passival

The OED has a different definition (as an adjective, but searching passivals shows the noun [our part of speech] is also attested), coined by Henry Sweet, who provides sells in the book sells well as an example. J3133 (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

static water

Said to be a synonym of sparkling/mineral water. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 11:28, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

scitament

OED lists only dictionaries. I was able to find two cites for the second sense, one of which was intentionally obtuse dictionaryese but still technically counts I guess. Nothing for the first sense. Plenty of scannos for "testament"--Simplificationalizer (talk) 03:34, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Actually I think the 1843 cite is for the first sense? It uses "opsonator", and opsony is a food thing, but it also uses "sermocinate" which is about conversation or at least talking. idk, the whole thing is intentionally hard to understand and i dont particularly feel motivated to riddle it out Simplificationalizer (talk) 03:54, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

It doesn't make much sense as "witty conversation," but it's definitely about words of some kind. It's referring to "an acyrology". I believe the opsonator just happens to be a character in the story. Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 08:58, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

mare's fart

I didn't find this in Google Books or News or Scholar. DCDuring (talk) 17:43, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

This term can be found within various books available on the Internet Archive. I have added citations to the mare's fart entry. Most of this term's appearances in literature are in the context of nicknaming the ragwort or other flowers.

I think there's some merit in the fact that "mare's fart" is used in sentences with elaboration rather than just appearing as a lone bulleted item in a list, however, I acknowledge that this may not be enough to justify the term's inclusion on Wiktionary and depends on consensus. -- Alexander Patmos (talk) 18:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Indeed it uses to be made a problem that a term is only mEnTiOnEd, not used by the author. But the purpose of that WT:CFI provision is to exclude sources which do not – even indirectly – confirm that a term has been used, such as is the case, as you say, in word lists, that can be copied over creating ghost words over time, or include a mere suggestion, because not everyone publishing dictionaries shares the same use—mention distinction. In a similar vein there is a provision of there having to exist three quotes even only because one sources often raises suspicion of mere suggestion or idiolect. This is not the case here, but we have reporting of use at least in some of the quotes, and we have practical experience telling us that local terms are often not found in the corpora even if used, since gardening has a limited intersection with publishing, i.e. I have actually heard terms that on the internet still are only mentioned, and if a claim is made that a term is from a specific regional dialect (here said North Shropshire and Cheshire, and there in farming), even more so chronolect too, it is another level again, since there English reduces to a WT:LDL. Thus the quotes are to satisfaction of our inclusion criteria inasmuch as they are good from a scientific lense the inclusion criteria serve. Fay Freak (talk) 18:51, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@Fay Freak I was admittedly uncertain whether the information under "further reading" would better suffice as citations/references or as actual quotations; I guess I haphazardly used that section as a 'catch-all' - I will be more mindful of Wikt's layout standards! Like you noted before, the "use/mention" nature of my sources is a little ambiguous for me. I think some of my examples skew toward the "mention" end of the spectrum, but I would agree that some could suffice as quotes because they elaborate, e.g. exemplifying a mare's fart as something regularly eaten by animals or contextualizing its naming convention by describing its smell/taste.

Also chronolect and phytonym are some very interesting terms, I'm gonna have to bookmark those! -- Alexander Patmos (talk) 21:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I note that the only sense that has three durably cites of any kind in the entry is "something of no value". I could not even find mentions at Google Books, News, or Scholar.

@DCDuring I appreciate your review of the "something of no value" sense. I also acknowledge the iffy nature of the quotations I provided for the flower; and while I do feel that at least three valid, durable citations can be found on the Internet, I agree that it is challenging locating them for such an obscure term and may require a consensus. Google certainly has not been the most helpful, but the Internet Archives has had some potentially valuable sources. -- Alexander Patmos (talk) 21:23, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

BTW, I believe it is quite possible to Wiktionary to be a source of AI hallucinations, just as it has been a source of (usually unattributed) mentions in numerous online sources. If Wiktionary shows up first in an "all" search on Google for a term, that is a very bad sign. DCDuring (talk) 20:52, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

@DCDuring: You did not see, due to your impaired sight I suppose (I must explain to him to make sense of your message), Alexander’s phytonym quotes under further reading. Indeed we don't put them under “further reading”, @Alexander Patmos, layout-wise. We had a “quotations” section once, but voted away even that, such that we either put quotes under the entry senses or on the citations namespace. Fay Freak (talk) 21:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

My vision is trained to find citations where they belong. "Further reading" is a heading I studiously ignore.

BTW, I would be delighted to find that Google makes available to those outside the US material not available to those of stuck within the US. DCDuring (talk) 21:36, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Citations moved to Citations:mare's fart. This, that and the other (talk) 01:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

AWFUL

This is not a common or widespread term. It has been coined less than a week ago - maybe two. The acronym was created to describe Renee Good and to suggest that she deserved to be killed. The addition to Wiktionary is an attempt to mainstream extremist hate speech and violent rhetoric. Please remove this entry! Xephnid (talk) 19:35, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

What are you on about? This entry was created in late 2024 with a quote dating from around the same time. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 20:04, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Sure, there's a link to a troll post from 2024 on Twitter with 308 views. Then there's two years of nothing. And then the term suddenly gained traction when Renee Good was killed to describe women like her. To call that a history is spurious at best Xephnid (talk) 20:37, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Such things happen all the time, in academia and vulgar intercourse, any corner of opinion corridor. We make no claim to covering common, widespread or mainstream terms only, but on the contrary make extreme codes intelligible. Plus a term is hardly ever coined to “describe” an individual if it isn't a proper noun, like Diaper Don. Get used to it. Some things exist descriptively: before or outside of ideological campaigning. Fay Freak (talk) 21:01, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

With that kind of logic you could justify a Wiktionary entry for every item in rationalwiki's alt-right glossary. And it would amount to the same thing in each case: mainstreaming of fascist rhetoric. "Get used to it" doesn't cut it. And it's quite frankly insulting. Xephnid (talk) 21:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Entries in Wiktionary are only justified if evidence for their use can be found (WT:ATTEST). Although three uses of the term in durably archived media (like books and newspapers) is considered sufficient, the practice has been to insist on a larger volume of evidence when relying on non-durably-archived material such as social media posts.

As it stands, the entry will be deleted, as only two instances of use (one durably archived, one not) are provided. But this RFV is an opportunity to gather further evidence to demonstrate real-world usage of the term. This, that and the other (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

And it will neither be deleted nor kept for the reasons offended person likes. Also even if deleted we probably will come back to it in 2–5 years and found it spread and necessary to readd it; right now but the shameful provenience prevents its permeation and the homography to a frequent adjective possibly us finding its instances. Fay Freak (talk) 01:38, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

You might want to consider the possibilty that this entry was created because of how easy it is to manipulate people who think more entries are a good in itself. Just look at the see also of this entry. It links to the word "awful". Now everybody who looks up the word "awful" will immediately be introduced to fascist hate speech along the way. That's a neat little shortcut. If one's intention is to poison a dictionary, that is... Xephnid (talk) 15:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

I already drank the Kool-Aid of being a Wikimedian, reading all such entries, and I am healthier than before. We can do many good things with poison in moderation, like pumping your face with botox or your portfolio with uranium. You have sorely wrong ideas about how a dictionary is made or used. See also are just mechanical additions, as the template documentation of {{also}} explains, and you don't click there if that (the all caps spelling in this case) is not what you actually seek. It was quite impossible to land here and complain with a new account unless it was popularized already somewhere. In this the New York Times linking this would be those guilty of violent rhetoric. You are pitting privileged elites employed in the environment of mainstream newspapers against independent researchers that we are. Fay Freak (talk) 16:44, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

No, because RationalWiki is about concepts in place of language and deploys terms that seem merely theoretical just to have a concept; a similar problem with Wikipedias (mostly in foreign languages) whose article titles are creative inventions so we always have to check the exchange of the term. Even when that specific article is about language, they do not leave their habit, and copy alt-right glossaries as a shaky basis of how the alt-right practically speaks, in accordance with its model, the original wiki Wikipedia which somehow wants to distance itself from the sources by being a tertiary source, but in accordance with not lexicographic practice and Wiktionary, which excerpts the alt-right as well as the main-left, → WT:WINW. For I example I like the term CTRL-left as an analogy to alt-right and watch it as something on my bucketlist that could be introduced still but it hasn't caught on at all, for the concept behind the term to be determined from use more than out of thin air, and I have not gotten around to use it myself save perhaps in a chat nobody will find. regressive left then is totally used. Another one in the late 2010s suggested to use google in place of nigger as Alphabet's platforms could not filter its own name out, but even the sites suggesting it disappeared. You only see the things we include, not to the things we don't include: availability bias.

That being said, many terms in the alt-right glossary can be included and are included; if not then not for the reason you think. Some belong to the most popular entries of Wiktionary even when ourselves we care the least about them. I just shrug and make others. Like everything that could be said about pajeet already has been said. My most valuable entries just have 0 pageviews. We don't want to give that language special treatment. Fay Freak (talk) 01:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Note that we also have an entry on "MAGAt" (see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/MAGAt). Some1 (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

That's a bothesidesism. Xephnid (talk) 15:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

This does not apply here since the United States actually teems with polarity and extremism. And as already explained we still describe the niche subcultures, criminal though they be, even if we know how the balance really stands. If you don't get rid of the actual problem the lexicon will reflect this. Fay Freak (talk) 16:44, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Verifiability aside, isn't this in practice just an alternate spelling of AWFL? The U doesn't change the meaning. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

More like an alt form. But we probably want to use the {{acronym of}} template, so it makes more sense to link between those entries using {{syn}}. Also, what is up with these people out of nowhere forgetting they can’t just vanish a word they do not like? Not caring to read that Wiktionary is for all words in all languages and check the site’s criteria for inclusion? The world would be a better place if there was no Twitter. (and, as a bonus, this term wouldn’t have been used as a right-wing buzzword in the first place) — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 20:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

this word meets the criteria for inclusion for English entries (at least three archived instances of genuine usage). if we were to remove terms on the basis of politics, we'd have to remove the entire alt-right category tree. LostInTheMist (talk) 09:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, not currently, it doesn’t. The first Twitter citation is not considered durably archived. And I’m fairly sure that “Erick Erickson Show” can’t be considered that either. — Polomo ⟨⁠ ⁠oi!⁠ ⁠⟩ · 12:59, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

lowkirkuinely

lowkirkenuinely

As per various other discussions, even hot words still need to meet the other prongs of CFI besides "spanning a year", like having citations... - -sche (discuss) 09:25, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

See also lowkenuinely. Both are attested on social media, but I haven't found either used (as opposed to mention on explainer sites) outside of that. Cnilep (talk) 04:15, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

highkirkuinely

As above. - -sche (discuss) 09:26, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I did find one use on Reddit, and it seems to be a fad on TikTok from what I can tell (I'm not a TikTok user), but I didn't find it attested outside social media. Cnilep (talk) 04:06, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

fast food

Rfv-sense: junk food. Amply cited, but every cite makes more sense read with the traditional meaning of "food prepared quickly" than with "junk food". Seeking cites that specifically equate fast food with junk food, including junk food that is not fast food in the traditional sense. —Soap— 21:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

attendance

Rfv-sense: "Maid service". The single existing citation is ambiguous as to what is service is to be provided, though it may prove to be a valid start. DCDuring (talk) 23:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Century c. 1910 offers the following as a definition of maid: "A female servant or attendant charged with domestic duties", so the definition is certainly plausible for the period of the citation. DCDuring (talk) 23:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

An inclusive definition would be "Service of an attendant." Attendant is probably much easier to cite with any specific meaning than attendance. DCDuring (talk) 23:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

assfaggot

Sense 1: Term of abuse

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 6 February 2026.

Request Verification of this term as a distinct, idiomatic compound. Reasoning: Seeking evidence that this is recognized as an independent compound beyond a sum-of-parts construction. -- ~2026-50656-4 (talk) 01:29, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

WT:SoP does not apply to unspaced compounds. J3133 (talk) 07:41, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Cited. J3133 (talk) 15:27, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Sense 1 passed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:27, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Sense 2: Video game backronym

Request: Verification of the acronym "Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides". Reasoning: This backronym is a notable piece of gaming history used as an alternative to "MOBA." I have provided attestation spanning 14 years (2012–2026), including a durably archived academic journal article documenting the link between Aeon of Strife and the broader MOBA genre (2020), along with multiple archived web discussions (2012, 2013, 2021). As these sources cover the required three-year span across different platforms, I believe the sense is sufficiently attested per CFI. This sense is the primary reason for the entry; if it cannot be verified, the entry likely lacks sufficient idiomaticity to stay. -- ~2026-50656-4 (talk) 01:29, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

homo-marriage

homo marriage

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 6 February 2026.

The unspaced form homomarriage is attested, but these forms are not. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Failed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:37, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Shitter

Failed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Twatter

• Cited. ~2026-73884-3 (talk) 22:42, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

  Passed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Xhitter

• Cited. ~2026-73884-3 (talk) 22:41, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

  Passed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Xitler

Both the "Xi Jinping" and "Elon Musk" senses.

• Cited. ~2026-73884-3 (talk) 20:37, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

  Passed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Xitter

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 6 February 2026.

— Sgconlaw (talk) 19:38, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Xitter is easily citable and I even found three cites in print. But is this really covered by WT:DEROG? it's not a person nor a group of people. —Soap— 19:05, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

@Soap: I would regard a group of people as including organizations. If Xitter is citable, could you please add at least three citations to the entry? Thanks. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

Cited. ~2025-39748-83 (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Xitter has passed (though many of the cites are from random-looking websites). — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:44, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Nur

--Geographyinitiative 🎵 (talk) 21:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Challenged sense is: "A township in Qira, Hotan prefecture, Xinjiang autonomous region, China". Nominator is: the guy who wrote it. Erm okay, you could have just deleted it again. ~2026-55146-8 (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

I say truly, and not to you specifically, RFV and RFD are the silliest parts of Wiktionary. There is not a time that I come to these rough pages and do not find myself regretting having made any edit at all. My only hope is that my benign influence here will improve the backward, Wikipedia-like coarseness I see on these pages. --Geographyinitiative 🎵 (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative: An IMPORTANT, MAJOR QUESTION in Wiktionary's development: do we think that we will improve our "backward coarseness" (I quote) by creating an entry and then referring it for deletion? Or do we think that's just an attention-seeking idiocy? ~2026-55146-8 (talk) 00:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-55146-8: You have to have seen Geographyinitiative in action for a while to understand what's really going on: there's no attention-seeking involved, and they're quite sincere- too sincere.

I'm sure they've been considering this so far as the most sublime and important thing anyone has ever posted in this space, to the point that it will elevate all who read it just by the act of reading it. Later on, they will decide it's the most incredibly stupid and embarrassing thing ever written since human beings crawled out of the primordial slime, and attempt to get it obliterated from the page and from all memory.

They're a good contributor and probably a good person, but lately they've been getting more and more extreme and polarized in their perceptions- not just black and white, but abyssal darkness and searing brightness. Methinks they need to get their perception-meter recalibrated so they can see the grays and subtle variations of color that everyone else sees. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:23, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

It is harmful to this project to entertain other people's serious mental illnesses. 21st-century idea of "nothing is wrong, everybody is VALID" is fine, but we are making a dictionary based on facts, not a Tumblr blog. Use your block button. ~2026-55146-8 (talk) 02:17, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

If we didn't "entertain other people's serious mental illnesses", we would have many fewer entries. DCDuring (talk) 21:32, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

notebooklet

"A small or thin notebook." I find no evidence of this. It does seem to have a very specific computing sense for one particular "notebook" system (these are jotters for data scientists). ~2026-55146-8 (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

dark alternative scene

More hi-quality genius from "Box16" (ex "Mysteryroom", I warned you about him). Zero GBooks hits. Poor dude saw a list of synonyms, but is also allergic to linking Wikipedia. wtf. Anyway genuine RFV, I don't think we can cite this to our standards. You doubt I ever left my house but in the old days (my 20s) I was a "Goth" and I went out to see Apoptygma and Covenant and I never heard anybody ever say "dark alternative scene". Cracking up over here. ~2026-55146-8 (talk) 02:36, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

I just added four durable cites from Usenet. I have had it with you and your endless insults up to here (gesturing where the hand is held parallel to the ground near the neck)!

Now you claim that you teach English literature on here: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=motleyed&action=history. Are you sure about that? I really doubt that, considering the fact that you've stated on multiple occasions that "all slang is idiomatic" --- when that is categorically and unambiguously false. No Equinox, not all slang is idiomatic.

Either way, I'm seriously considering reporting you to the admins for your nonstop stalking and harassment. I'm still awestruck and mystified how you weren't blocked or banned when making such insults like this: https://postimg.cc/MnN58H34

You wrote, "fuck off you absolute cunt and die in a fire." That is just reprehensible. And you continue to shamelessly insult me and others under an anonymous IP. box16 (talk) 03:11, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Swearing at editors and telling them to die is unacceptable. For what it’s worth (not sure how well it works with IPs), I have blocked ~2026-55146-8 for a week. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:45, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello Sgconlaw, thank you so much. I greatly appreciate your action on this matter.

In the past, Equinox has also threatened to kill another editor (I cannot remember who it was or when it was since it happened so many moons ago). But I can tell you with 100% certainty that Equinox wrote this on an edit summary for an entry. box16 (talk) 05:30, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

@box16: hmmm, I have just realized that the incident which you referred to occurred in 2023. (I think you should have pointed that out.) Please provide evidence of recent incidents affecting you, otherwise I am minded to lift the block. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:24, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

That was an example, which I mentioned for the sake of everyone's information here. No action was taken when he wrote those egregiously hurtful and potentially slanderous words. As for me, he has called me a "c--t" in the past (when he was editing uhder Equinox) in an edit summary. I cannot remember where it was since it was over a year ago. It was certainly during his last year as Equinox before he ceased editing under that handle. I did not appreciate that insult from him at all. Another example is the way he refers to me in the post above (using sarcasm and derision by calling me a "poor dude" and making that snarky and sardonic remark "more hi-quality genius" as if I have no clue what I'm doing.) It is totally unacceptable that he follows me around constantly and starts attacking my character like this. Since he is no longer an admin, and he was desysoped by the team, I would greatly appreciate that he leave me alone and cease bothering me. He still acts like an administrator around here, even though he (supposedly) hasn't been one for almost two years. box16 (talk) 12:43, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

@Box16: yes, but blocking—especially for longer periods—isn’t in my view justifiable for incidents which occurred years ago. If no action was taken then it’s unfortunate but we can’t retrospectively take action unless it’s a pattern of continuing behaviour, which is why I asked you for evidence of recent incidents. Snarkiness is certainly not to be encouraged (Equinox, you’re on notice here), but it’s also not in the category of outright harassment and intimidation. Please monitor the situation and feel free to make a further report of any recent unacceptable conduct. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:02, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

So him calling me a c--t (in an edit summary) is acceptable conduct? box16 (talk) 13:27, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

@Box16: as my reply stated, it is not acceptable but it happened almost three years ago. It makes little sense to block an editor for a longer period for things which happened that long ago unless it is a pattern of continuing behaviour, and while I have noted that he has acted in very bad form by using the c-word on you, that was also over a year ago. As I said, please keep track of and report recent unacceptable conduct. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the information as well as your assistance. box16 (talk) 13:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Meanwhile, back at the RfV: Not all of the cites seem to unambiguously support an idiomatic expression:

1. The 2024 cite is a mention, useful for the definition, but not showing use.
2. In the 2000 cite "a dark alternative scene" seems merely using two adjectives to describe a "scene".
3. The 1998 cite is suggestive more of gothic and dark each being ordinary descriptive modifiers of alternative scene (which is itself clearly SoP).
4. Even the 2002 cite is easy to read as SoP.

I don't know exactly what would be unambiguous evidence in support of an idiomatic (non-SoP) reading of the expression. Perhaps instances of dark-alternative-scene used attributively or modification of the expression by an adjective that contradicted the component adjectives, like cheery (contradicting dark) or mainstream (contradicting alternative). DCDuring (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

I just added three more durable cites that more or less indicate its usage as a synonym of dark culture. box16 (talk) 21:14, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

P.S. Just found another cite from 1999 that durably illustrates its usage. box16 (talk) 21:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

The amazing J3133 just added a durable cite from a newspaper in 2018. I also found a usage of the plural form on Reddit. box16 (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

The so-called "Usenet" cites from 2023 and 2024 are spam messages posted to spammy-looking Google Groups, not Usenet groups (this can be noted from the lack of dots in the group name). One is even just a copy of Wikipedia. I've removed those.

Nonetheless, the phrase seems clearly cited from other cites.

This is certainly a very borderline term as far as SOP is concerned. That's, of course, something for RFD. But I am reasonably confident it is at least SOP with respect to dark alternative + scene, as you can also find "dark alternative rock" and "dark alternative bands" - if not entirely SOP with respect to each of the three words. This, that and the other (talk) 02:05, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

RFV-passed, but I'm now sending it to RFD. This, that and the other (talk) 10:04, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

aerostation

Sense: “(uncountable, obsolete, rare) The science of weighing air; aerostatics.” The OED has only two quotations, from 1788 and 1789, and the former is a definition of the term. J3133 (talk) 06:57, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

decursive

Only found in dictionaries, or part of a taxonomic name--~2026-12941-7 (talk) 07:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

flowkirkuinely

One cite for a hot word. Don't we need some evidence of abundant use to have it at all? Once we have three, we then wait for at least one cite a year from the insertion of {{hot word}} or is that a year from first use? DCDuring (talk) 19:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

eugeny

OED only has Eugeny. Vealhurl (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

extract

Rfv-sense A draft or copy of writing; a certified copy of the proceedings in an action and the judgment therein, with an order for execution.. In Webster's 1913 entry tagged Scots law. Execution can't be killing, surely Vealhurl (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Execution in this context probably refers to executing or carrying out a court order. — Sgconlaw (talk) 23:47, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

anthropophuistic

The noun anthropophuism just failed RFV. Ultimateria (talk) 18:44, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Etisch

Middle English. This isn't in MEC, MED, or OED, and I've never encountered such a term in my reading on Middle English (I would was inclined to use {{delete}}, but realised that others might need confirmation that this is obviously spurious). Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 20:41, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

spaceship

Rfv-sense: computer.

Is it just any computer? It might make sense for a laptop, and I wonder if someone misunderstood the context. It's the sole edit of this IP. —Soap— 22:44, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Islamorealism

Entry has two senses:

1. The belief that Islamophobic viewpoints are rational.
2. (Can we verify⁽⁺⁾ this sense?) The belief that Islam should be subject to the same standards of rational and scholarly critique as all other major religions.

It's certainly not implausible that the term has been used specifically in sense 2, but the sense could equally be a POV-motivated reinterpretation of sense 1. This, that and the other (talk) 04:50, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, this seems like a euphemisic (POV) reframing in the vein of race realism. - -sche (discuss) 23:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

elephant race

Is this used in English in this sense? It could be a calque of German Elefantenrennen. Jberkel 10:37, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

I added 3 cites for the road transport sense. Netizen3102 (talk) 06:59, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Why are these cites only from law firms / insurances? Is it restricted to that context? Jberkel 11:23, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

nudier

Not as easy to attest as I thought. DCDuring (talk) 16:02, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

nudiest

Not easy to attest. DCDuring (talk) 16:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

eldership

RFVs for two senses:

1. (nonce, as a mock title of honour) The personality of an elderly person.
2. The smallest administrative division in Lithuania, equivalent to a ward.

Each of these has one supporting quotation. The first is in the NED. The synonym of the second, elderate, is attested. 0DF (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

exestuate

Nothing in infinitive or -ed. one in -ing. Vealhurl (talk) 10:53, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Did you even check OED1? There are 2 quotations given therein alone. Cited. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 15:24, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

fangleness

Some hits for new-fangleness, and some Scots. Vealhurl (talk) 11:11, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

microphonous

According to the OED, only attested in dictionaries or glossaries. J3133 (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Cited. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 17:57, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I don't think the 1937 cite supports a definition having to do with amplification. I would read it as having to do with the distorted quality of a voice heard over a loudspeaker. To me none of the citations point toward the same definition. A test is whether the defining word "amplifying" is substitutable in the citations. Certainly not modifying "voice" in the 1937 cite, that being what is amplified. It seems to refer to "detection" in the 1919 cite, with amplification being the function of the "megaphonic mouth". Perhaps a rewording to something less specific and reflecting the pre-modern understanding of the function of a microphone or a sound system in general. I think it also needs a historic, dated, or archaic label. DCDuring (talk) 19:45, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

monophonous

The OED does not have this sense. J3133 (talk) 16:20, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I have added the purely musical sense that seems to be much more common. The word itself is very much attested, so we’re just left with an rfv-sense. Could be citable in a figurative usage? —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 17:21, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

megalophonous

According to the OED, this sense is only attested in dictionaries or glossaries. J3133 (talk) 16:38, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Never take OED at its word when it says that. Often it is right, but sometimes it misses badly, as it does here.

Cited and amended the def. This, that and the other (talk) 06:43, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Oh, I see what's happened here. We defined the word as "Having a loud voice", which is given as a second, dictionary-only sense in OED. I've now changed our definition to fit the usage. @J3133 do you want to re-add the challenged sense and continue the RFV of that sense, or are you satisfied with the entry as it stands? I would note I didn't see any good evidence of the "loud/strong voice" sense in my searches for cites, although it wasn't an exhaustive search. This, that and the other (talk) 06:54, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

@This, that and the other: I do not oppose keeping the entry as is, but removing it so soon would seem out of process. J3133 (talk) 07:31, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Okay, I put the challenged sense back so it can wait out its days (although someone ought to do some searches before failing it). This, that and the other (talk) 08:21, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

@This, that and the other: I have added quotations (some uses are figurative) and broadened the definition to “loud” per most of them. J3133 (talk) 09:36, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

gagging for it

Rfv-sense: "Sexually aroused". Completely uncited, of course. Is this used for all genders and orientations? For any form of sexual activity? DCDuring (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I get that there is a technical difference between desiring sex and being sexually aroused, but I think it would be impossible to determine whether any given citation uses sense 1 or sense 2. On Google Books, there's a mixture of "gagging for it (after a period of abstinence)" and "gagging for it (due to being aroused by something)" but in both cases, what is actually happening is the character has a sense 1 strong desire for sex. I don't think these are lexically distinguishable and we should just delete sense 2. (Or alternatively, split it out as a subsense of 1. So we'd have "1. Having a strong desire for something" and then probably "1.1. Sexually aroused; desperate for sex" and "1.2. Extremely thirsty".) Smurrayinchester (talk) 14:23, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

"Is this used for all genders and orientations? For any form of sexual activity?" I ask because of the implications for the presentation in Wikisaurus. Or can Wikisaurus dispense with the need for evidence? It would not be unreasonable to stipulate that Wikisaurus matters not be a worthwhile use of our scarce attestation resources. DCDuring (talk) 16:30, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

A quick Google books search suggests yes, it's pretty equal opportunity. Straight men, straight women, gay men, lesbians, and a range of activities (on both sides, giving and receiving). The only wrinkle is that a lot of hits for "she was gagging for it" are male characters looking to justify behavior that ranges from a forceful approach to sexual assault. Smurrayinchester (talk) 10:38, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

While we're at it, is there a lexically relevant difference in idiomatic UK slang between "having a strong desire for (something, especially) sex" and being "sexually aroused"? DCDuring (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

kirk

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 12 February 2026.

1. (US, Internet slang, humorous) to experience intense neck pain and/or incapacitated by it
2. (US, Internet slang, humorous) to hit someone in the neck (stings, hickeys etc)
3. (US, Internet slang, humorous) to give oral sex (i.e. "neck")

Claimed to be a hot sense, but citations are still required. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:56, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Failed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:58, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

cond🕉

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 12 February 2026.

Used in scattered social media posts for various plays on the word condom. Not sure if that's enough for any sense, let alone the derogatory sense given in the entry:

1. (Internet slang, derogatory, offensive, ethnic slur, religious slur) Hinduism, depicted as filth.

Chuck Entz (talk) 23:02, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I was inspired to add it by the similar Islamophobic slur ☪️ancer - it appears to be a response against Hinduism, as shown here, here, and here. ~2026-64270-7 (talk) 00:02, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Failed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

platemog

in the two senses currently listed ("to be significantly more appetizing than (another dish)" and "to brag about a dish"). hits on google are all instances of a completely unrelated World of Warcraft jargon ragweed theater _{talk, user} 00:29, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

destituent

Rfv-sense deficient, lacking --~2026-12941-7 (talk) 10:02, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Tricky to filter out all the French and Latin results. Only found one additional use in English. —⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 23:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

as far as one is concerned

"(business, labour) Of a workflow or administration, regarding the delineation of responsibilities, to the extent that the matter concerns one's role; to the extent that one is obligated by one's position, role, or office to be involved (in a certain process)." Really not sure what to make of this. — Sgconlaw (talk) 18:01, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

@Sgconlaw: If you search with phrases like "in the matter" and "in this" at the end, it should be possible to sift through all the false positives due to punctuation and find enough cites. Even so, it looks like SOP of the second sense at concerned. It might be a case for {{&lit;}}. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:34, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz: yes, it just seems SoP. I think it should just be deleted. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:10, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

I favor deletion over the possible replacement (without any label) by {{&lit|en|as far as|concerned}} on grounds that I cannot explain. DCDuring (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

extersion

Rubbing out. OED suggests wordybooky shit (atechnical term...). Lots of scannops for extension, to screw up the search.Vealhurl (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Apparently used by librarians. Google Books has a couple of images of book covers and old library book pockets that have "extersion" stamped on them. I don't know exactly what that was supposed to mean. OED has a less-than-a-century long time when the word was used, probably not in the librarian's sense. DCDuring (talk) 22:25, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

@DCDuring where did you find those book covers? I can't see them in my searches. OED only shows dictionaries - the term may need to go to Appendix:English dictionary-only terms. This, that and the other (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

I think there are differences between what's available in the US vs. elsewhere. I don't think that the coverage is necessarily better in the US, but it seems different.

These were the top 3 from my GBooks search. After them, nothing but scannos for extension.

This one, from at book at the Univ. of Colorado Libraries (Boulder). This is a cite from a journal (The Casuist) about "extersion of the paten", #2. And this is from a card in a library book pocket, #3. I couldn't find anything after those 3. From 1 and 3, I infer that something of some importance to the libraries involved must have been "rubbed out" (erased?). The word does not appear in running text in #1 and #3, but perhaps something can be inferred from the fact that they seem to have something to do with books as library objects. #2 seems to have something to do with the timing of the recitation of ritual words with respect to cleaning/purifying the paten during Catholic Mass. DCDuring (talk) 03:04, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

@DCDuring: I'm not so sure those stamped words say "Extersion". You'll notice that the letters on the front covers are rather blocky and hard to read, perhaps because of the ink soaking through the paper of the cover, or because of something about the way the stamp hit the book cover. That "R" could very well be an "N". The "N" at the end is almost like a lowercase "o", The one in the pocket is less bloated, but the R/N letter almost looks like a "K". Since those are both dramas and both in the Boulder library collection, both books are probably stamped with the same stamp. I wonder if that university library had an extension? All in all, it's not much to base much of anything on. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:10, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

I'm not an advocate for extersion. I found the hits, but was not convinced that they constituted attestation. Even if we decided that the image was of extersion, it's not running text and the possible meaning is not clear. I was hoping that someone of a certain age had worked in a library and understood what was meant. But, if it was ever a standard term in librarianship, we would expect it to have been mentioned or used in librarianship textbooks or references. DCDuring (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

February 2026

sneezefic

—⁠Desacc̱oinṯier 03:14, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I found two durably archived citations (Citations:sneezefic), though one of them is likely usenet spam. This seems like a term that was mostly used on specific forums and Yahoo groups in the 2000s, so it may not be very easily attestable. I found uses on Deviantart and Tumblr, but there doesn't seem to be a consensus on whether sites like that count for Wiktionary's attestation requirements, so I didn't include them on the citations page. ArcticSeeress (talk) 21:35, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

surgen

Middle English. Listed as the etymon of surge, but according to the OED (and the Online Etymology Dictionary), the verb is first attested in 1511. Not in the Middle English Dictionary. J3133 (talk) 13:00, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

exurgent

I added one, but Google Books and M Library only show Latin. Vealhurl (talk) 17:35, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I added several more, but it seems like the meaning is just "arising"; perhaps "coming to light" should be dropped from the definition. (There is also a use as a noun here by a speaker who is unsure what word they're trying to come up with.) - -sche (discuss) 08:23, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

I truncated the definition. - -sche (discuss) 23:01, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

• Passed.Good work. I untruncated it. Means emergent, methinks Vealhurl (talk) 23:12, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

favoredness

Rfv-sense appearance Vealhurl (talk) 19:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Century has this with the label in compounds, for which the redlinked Derived terms would be attestation, were they themselves attested entries or were we to show one use of each as citations for favoredness. DCDuring (talk) 22:42, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I've relabeled it as archaic. I have three cites of the many available, one for each of the derived terms. DCDuring (talk) 23:41, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• Thaks. Good enough4passed 20:07, 3 February 2026 (UTC) — This unsigned comment was added by Vealhurl (talk • contribs).

l exilises

Listed as the plural of l exilis by @Simplificationalizer. J3133 (talk) 12:11, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

The actual plural entry hasn't been created, so I guess the issue is whether {{en-noun}} should be amended to remove the mention of a plural form existing (i.e., add - or ? as the first parameter)? — Sgconlaw (talk) 12:20, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Also, in theory, I presume that since exilis is an adjective, the plural would rightly be ls exilis. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:09, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Are we missing an entry for clear l? We have dark l. This, that and the other (talk) 12:25, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Honestly that was just me being sloppy when using {{en-noun}}, I didn't intend it to list a plural form. It should be amended to include ? or ! (not -, "an l exilis" is attested) Simplificationalizer (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

@Simplificationalizer: I have changed it to {{en-noun|?}} and closed the RfV in that it was listed unintentionally, which did not seem the case as you had specified + for the plural rather than leaving it blank. J3133 (talk) 10:53, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

I probably meant ?, they're right next to each other in dvorak. I'm not familiar with the usage of + Simplificationalizer (talk) 14:30, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

If it has a plural at all, it's probably l exiles since Latin technical terms like these tend to take their Latin plurals. That said, I'm surprised the singular isn't l exile (with plural l exilia) since letter names are usually neuter in Latin (compare s-mobile, schwa primum etc.). —Mahāgaja · talk 17:19, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

@Mahagaja: Cf. r rotunda, whose etymology also mentions e caudata and that it is feminine (which exīlis can also be) to agree with littera. J3133 (talk) 07:08, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

@J3133: That's true! But I notice that r rotunda and e caudata refer to letters as letter shapes, while s-mobile and schwa primum refer to sounds. Since l exilis refers to a sound, I still think neuter would be less surprising. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:42, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

Barbillion

Second sense: "a number that is very large". ~2026-72692-8 (talk) 13:59, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

asslicky

Sense 2: Of, pertaining to, or performing anilingus. ~2026-72692-8 (talk) 14:17, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

last full measure

This entry seems to be a bit of Lincoln hagiography. Can we find citations that are independent of the Gettysburg Address? DCDuring (talk) 19:51, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Of course, no other OneLook dictionary has this. Nothing in GBooks, except for "last full measure of devotion", the full NP that Lincoln used. GNews has lots about a movie with that as title. I expect there might be allusive uses of the expression in memorial ritual speeches, etc. DCDuring (talk) 19:58, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

asialyated

genuine or a tyop?Vealhurl (talk) 20:41, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Google Scholar shows 79 hits for asialyated and 1440 hits for the correct spelling asialylated. The "wrong" spelling accounts for 5% of all hits for the word. Do we call that a "common misspelling"?

Is it a typo or a misspelling? The jury's out. I spot-checked the first six papers in Google Scholar for which the full text was available. Two contained many instances of asialyated and none of asialylated (suggesting a misspelling), two used asialyated once and contained many instances of asialylated (suggesting a typo), and two only used asialyated once.

In any case this is easily citeable - the typo/misspelling argument is for RFD if anyone cares enough to send it there. This, that and the other (talk) 06:09, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

• Removed. We have bigger fish2fry Vealhurl (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

Reunioneses

Plural of Reunionese; I have added Reunionese as a plural. J3133 (talk) 07:51, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Created by TheCheatBot, which added a lot of automatic wrong plurals way back in the day. See the long-lasting harm a bad bot can do! ~2026-76191-8 (talk) 21:00, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

lens

Rfv-sense "A genus of the legume family; its bean." Is this word used this way in English, lower-case, as opposed to Translingual Lens? —Mahāgaja · talk 11:38, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Added by an IP in 2006! at the same time as the electron beam sense, which I have now generalized. - -sche (discuss) 17:04, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Irish

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 16 February 2026.

Adjective sense: "(derogatory) nonsensical, daft or complex." The given citation mentions Irish confetti (which has its own entry): that doesn't mean "daft confetti" or "complex confetti". It's true that there are some mocking "Irish (noun)" phrases but that doesn't give "Irish" alone a sense, and if it did it probably wouldn't have this definition. Also "daft" is not the same thing as "complex". ~2026-76191-8 (talk) 20:59, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

This sense was previously challenged in 2010 and re-added by an IP in 2011. The definition is apparently trying to get at the use of Irish in the phrase Irish logic. This, that and the other (talk) 10:53, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

If we needed a definition for this, it should probably be something like “supposedly characteristic of people from Ireland” rather than anything as specific as “nonsensical, daft or complex”. After all you can find the word in collocations like Irish coffee where it doesn’t mean the latter, and I wonder if it is worth trying to capture all the different nuances of the word. If Irish logic is a fixed term, then it should be a separate entry with its own definition. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:29, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

DARE has four pages of entries relating to Irish, 3-1/2 devoted to collocations, all NPs. A number of them are implicitly derogatory of the Irish, referring to poverty (Irish wash (turning the dirty side of a cloth down", Irish buggy/car/auto/locomotive/man o'war ("wheelbarrow"), large families (Irish flag ("diaper"), Irish twin ("siblings born within a year of each other")), nature of occupations (Irish banjo (shovel")), proneness to donnybrooks (Irish confetti ("thrown bricks, etc.")), supposed coarseness (Irish whisper ("normal volume when a whisper would be more appropriate"), Irish hint ("broad hint")). Others include Irish funnies ("obituary column") and some nautical and logging slang. DARE does not provide attestation to our standards for some of these, so an adjective definition, possibly non-gloss, that captured this kind of usage might be necessary to capture the usage. DCDuring (talk) 15:57, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

houkie

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:05, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

Taoism

Rfv-sense: "{{lb|en|Singapore}} Traditional Chinese folk religion". The citation currently provided looks like it is just using the usual sense (which we currently have as senses 1 and 2, but which should perhaps just be one sense, see Wiktionary:Tea room/2026/February#Taoism (definition)); indeed, it seems to me that it is unlikely to mean "Traditional Chinese folk religion" as claimed, because the cite mentions "Taoism and traditional Chinese faiths" as separate things. No? - -sche (discuss) 23:00, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

Elno

derogatory or humorous nickname for Elon Musk

This was a hotword from 2022, and appears to have been common on Mastodon (remember Mastodon?) and Twitter for several months in 2022-23, but I can't find it used after that. Perhaps it still exists on Bluesky or the like, but I didn't find it in archived media after 2023. Cnilep (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

peace out

Rfv-sense: transitive, to render unconscious

The only cite given doesn't seem transitive - it just reads like the intransitive sense 1. Searching for "peace him out", "peace her out" etc, I don't find any relevant hits (one or two for "to say goodbye to someone", one for "to calm down", maybe one for "to ignore", but not enough to cite any sense). Smurrayinchester (talk) 10:23, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

The one cite is clearly intended to be a passive, enclosed as it is in commas. That said, I have yet to find any other passive use at Google Books. DCDuring (talk) 16:38, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

well if the stone said PAZ i think this is a pun. —Soap— 20:22, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

fiaunt

commission; fiat; order; decree . Only Spenser found Vealhurl (talk) 14:01, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

lithe

lithe, meaning thicken, is not really cited despite having four quotes. Three of them are dictionaries, and the other uses it as an adjective, ... and that adjective may be a use of lithe sense 1, which isn't the word we currently list at Old English liþan. so i think this fifth etymology might not even exist.... it's just lithe sense 1 in a culinary context. still, whatever its etymology, it would be nice if we could cite as a verb, too. —Soap— 20:33, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

half-naked

The OED and Collins only have it as an adjective, not an adverb. J3133 (talk) 19:31, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

I'm always a bit confused by this. In a construction like "He was seen running along the road half-naked", does the word half-naked qualify the person (which would make it an adjective) or the running (which would make it an adverb)? — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:40, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

I would say it could be both depending on intent of speaker. BirchTainer (talk) 06:05, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

This has come up on a couple of other discussions lately so I'm mostly repeating myself but .... so long as naked is listed only as an adjective, i think half-naked, nude, and anything else that describes the person rather than the activity should also be an adjective. but we have drunk listed as both adjective and adverb, and i would apply the argument to this as well, which means that could have hundreds more discussions if we leave the question open. —Soap— 19:32, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

@Soap: doesn't that just beg the question of whether we should indicate that naked is an adjective, or also an adverb? Is there any grammatical test for whether a word is an adjective and/or an adverb? — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

i think that if it describes the person rather than the activity it's an adjective. since you can replace the verb with "be" and its still grammatical. we have some verb+adj set phrases analyzed as having adverbs, e.g. rough#Adverb for sleep rough, and drunk#Adverb for drive drunk. i think that is just a tradition we follow, but we have not extended that tradition beyond set phrases. even if someone might argue that an adjective can become an adverb in extended use, i'd rather not create duplicate sections for every adjective just because we can find three cites for sleep hungry, drive safe, work angry, sit pretty, start ugly, and so on. —Soap— 18:11, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

@Soap: I completely agree that we should avoid adding an adverb section to every term which is an adjective (and vice versa?). Since I'm not a linguist I am just wondering how best to distinguish adjectives and adverbs, especially the (possibly) more difficult ones like half-naked. So you're saying the test should be that if a word can describe a noun we call it an adjective and ignore any potential adverbial use, and if it only describes a verb and cannot be used to describe a noun we call it an adverb? That works for me, but I'd like to see if there are other views. — Sgconlaw (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

there's a few more related posts in this thread, where i referred back to this other thread. people mostly seem to agree with me, though neither thread was narrowly about the adj/adv distinction, nor applicable to a whole class of words. —Soap— 20:36, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Memory Alpha

Star Trek stuff. The wiki sense (a Web site name) does not seem suitable for an entry here; the other sense sounds like something in the Trek universe which would need to be cited outside it. ~2026-86823-2 (talk) 08:58, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

pizzabombing

Internet harassment. Both citations are in German, for a German word Pizzabombing. ~2026-86823-2 (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

I disagree that this is exclusively a German term. While I initially provided German citations because they were authoritative sources, the term has a long history of use in English-language tech and gaming circles to describe a specific form of harassment that involves sending unwanted food to targets. For example, it appears in a 2010 Wowhead archive regarding Blizzard's RealID controversy and was defined in a 2022 safety guide by Qustodio. The Wikipedia article for Keffals also mentions it.

However, the page might need to be moved to "pizza bombing" as that's the standard spelling. ~2026-87870-0 (talk) 21:42, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

• https://www.qustodio.com/en/blog/what-is-doxxing/ "As a form of doxxing, pizza bombing may either refer to a hacker obtaining someone’s address and credit card information, or simply just an address, and ordering hundreds or thousands of dollars of pizza to be sent to their address."
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffals "In 2022, Sorrenti became the subject of a loosely organized harassment campaign that she has attributed to Kiwi Farms, with internet trolls using her deadname while filing false police reports, pizza bombing her residence, and organizing a number of swattings."
• https://www.academia.edu/72738906/Metagaming_Playing_Competing_Spectating_Cheating_Trading_Making_and_Breaking_Videogames "Blizzard Entertainment's Warcraft III (2002) that has evolved into an ... pizza bombing to DDoSing,[2] doxxing,[3] swatting,[4] and stalking through ..."

~2026-87870-0 (talk) 21:54, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

I have added two quotes in English, one from 2013 styled pizza bombing and one from 2014 as pizza-bombing. See also a related move request. Cnilep (talk) 01:16, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

binge flush

Subliminal audio recording for binge eaters. I find almost nothing in Google Web search. ~2026-86823-2 (talk) 16:46, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

This term is only used on low-view YouTube videos and should be removed. ~2026-87870-0 (talk) 22:16, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

mimzy

Alt form of mimsy (adjective). Seems impossible since it's a Lewis Carroll nonce word and he did not spell it this way. ~2026-86823-2 (talk) 17:30, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

anti-degenerate

This is one of a number of terms created by User:~2026-84599-4 as part of a documentation of the Larpercore community, most of which I can't find any durable support for. This one though might be citable in a broader sense, "one opposed to social degeneracy". There's also a rare mathematical adjectival meaning--Simplificationalizer (talk) 21:39, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

As the creator of the entry, I agree with this nomination for deletion. While 'anti-degenerate' is a key identity marker in the subcultures I am documenting, I acknowledge that finding three independent, durably archived citations for it as a standalone 'word' is difficult under WT:CFI. I would rather focus the community's efforts on verifying terms with stronger institutional attestation, such as 'larpercore' and 'pizza bombing.' ~2026-87870-0 (talk) 21:47, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

When I saw this listed or referred to as nominated for deletion in a summary to Larpercore, I thought “hey, this could be something, maybe we should keep it as a concept”. But as I read it, I am inclined towards its deletion for harbouring too much made up stuff, causing it to be sums of parts. Fay Freak (talk) 22:49, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

anti-gacha

I'm seeing nothing even a little durable with regard to Gacha Life (as opposed to gacha mechanics, and then only in SOP adjectival usage)--Simplificationalizer (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

I also agree with the deletion of anti-gacha. While it is a primary identifier for the subculture I am documenting, I acknowledge that it functions largely as a descriptive phrase (SOP) rather than a unique lexical term with durable archive support. I will focus on providing the institutional citations for the more unique terminology. ~2026-87870-0 (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Larpercore

I am adding citations to verify Larpercore. The term has transitioned from internet slang into a formal subject of study by counter-extremism researchers and international media.

• 2024/2025, Marc-André Argentino, PhD (ICSR), From The Depths series: "The Com Network, SAVF, 764, Mky, are all part of a larger subculture called Larpercore." (https://www.linkedin.com/posts/marcandreargentino_welcome-to-a-new-series-from-the-depths-activity-7288699166275297280-vml1)
• 2025 December 5, Fábio Costa Pereira, "Você sabe o que significam os termos perigosos...", Estadão: "Larpercore. Estética de subculturas online ligadas a massacres e radicalização juvenil..." (https://www.mprs.mp.br/media/areas/imprensa/arquivos/glossarionupve_2versao.pdf)
• 2026 January 8, "Die Entwicklung nihilistischer Gewalt," Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung: (Institutional report utilizing the term to analyze youth radicalization funnels). (https://www.kas.de/en/single-title/-/content/die-entwicklung-nihilistischer-gewalt)

These three independent, professional sources span over a year and meet WT:CFI for a term with established real-world significance. ~2026-87870-0 (talk) 22:13, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Not if only one of them is in English. Also, I'm not sure LinkedIn is regarded as a durably archived website. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:44, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

decussate

Rfv-sense: rhetoric. Our usex uses decussated. OED has this sense at decussated, citing only Webster 1828. This, that and the other (talk) 10:15, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

theologian

Rfv-sense "A theological lecturer attached to a cathedral church". Before I edited the entry, it was also specified to be specifically Roman Catholic usage, but I've never come across it and it certainly isn't the typical meaning of "theologian" in Catholic circles. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

anthropoclast

anthropoclastite

Two from a set of three entries recently created. The third is anthropoclastic, which appears to be in use (although I didn't verify the exact definition given), while the two terms don't. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 16:54, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

devagueify

The two articles given as 'references' (should be quotes) use scare quotes for this term (whether this makes them count as mentions is debatable), while the other two are not durably archived. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 07:59, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Ziz

Given name and nickname. Created to support Zizian. But googling "Ziz nickname" finds only that one individual. So it seems: not a real name, and only one individual's nickname. ~2026-92217-4 (talk) 08:28, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

drighten

Rfv-sense "The Lord; Lord God; Christ"; not in EEBO (other than in Crowley's edition of Piers Plowman or scannos) or the EDD, while the OED lacks post-Middle English attestations; the archaising revival of this term seems to be limited to the "lord, chieftain" sense upon a quick inspection, though I'm happy to be proven wrong. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 15:40, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

drightin

Again on the evidence of EEBO and the EDD and OED, this form doesn't appear to be Modern English at all. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 15:47, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

surplusage

Rfv-sense: "A greater disbursement than the charge of the accountant amounts to."

Only found in Webster 1913. Not in Century. Our single cite doesn't mention charge ("fee"?) of the accountant. OED? DCDuring (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Clownflare

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 24 February 2026.

Derogatory term without notability proof ~2026-95537-5 (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

I found one use on Google Groups. The term seems to be widely used on the Internet, but I'm not certain that it meets Wiktionary's criteria for durably archived attestation. ArcticSeeress (talk) 23:10, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Naver

- -sche (discuss) 05:03, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

container

Rfv-sense: "Someone who holds people in their seats or in a (reasonably) calm state."

Can't find any cites for this and I'm struggling to imagine how you could use it. "The dancer was a container"??? Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

So, synonymous with spellbinder? Or some kind of entertainment-business jargon? DCDuring (talk) 18:19, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

"Seats" does not necessarily suggest an audience watching a show. It could be a business meeting or a general family scenario where people remain and calm and don't get up and argue. ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 19:36, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

But it's hard to imagine that a term would be coined for a family scenario. Business scenarios are possible, I suppose, but the entertainment industry (live and recorded), has a long tradition of coining terms for such things, especially suffixed by -er. The term would make the most sense in a business where holding the audience led to more revenue, as where alcoholic beverages are sold. Maybe it is related to pre-commercial teasers or "be right back" messages on commercial video. DCDuring (talk) 16:25, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

dipaschal

Including 2 Passovers. --~2026-12941-7 (talk) 14:39, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

In GBooks I see just two uses, both in The Eclectic Review (maybe the same author and article?): from the snippets I see "dipaschal scheme" and "dipaschal theory". ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 16:12, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

ten for the big guy

No hits on Gbooks. A Google search finds a very small number of forum posts that all seem to refer to Hunter Biden, a book about Hunter Biden, a song about Hunter Biden, and some Fox News transcripts, also about Hunter Biden. Is this a) verifiable from three independent sources over more than a year and b) used in any actual context other than the Hunter Biden scandal? (My personal feeling is that three quotes all using it about the same person in the same context should not count as independent, but I know other people feel differently) Smurrayinchester (talk) 16:01, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

It seems SOP, as a separate problem. If someone (a mafia underling, etc) is about to distribute a take by giving everyone ten grand, another mafioso (etc) could say "no, twenty for the big guy" (or "no, big guy gets thirty", or "seventeen for the boss", etc, etc). - -sche (discuss) 21:30, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

frigophobia

Sense 2: a fear of falling on ice. ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 16:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Is there a better word for it? DCDuring (talk) 17:54, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Leading candidates: pagophobia, basophobia; runners-up: chionophobia, ambulophobia.

pagophobic is used of harbor seals that don't breed on ice; basophobia is general fear of walking or of standing; chionophobia is fear of snow; ambulophobia is fear of walking. So far, then, nothing exact for fear of slipping or falling on ice. DCDuring (talk) 18:48, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

sanamahist

Alt form of Sanamahist. I don't see it. Just looks miscapitalised. ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Meiteidom

Invention I think. ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Mekhlee

Entry is a mess, but anyway, almost zero relevant Google hits. Total invention like the above. User's contribs need checking! ~2026-96662-2 (talk) 21:38, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

aah, Bisto

Any citations that aren't about gravy? Every quote I can find in Google Books and Google News fails WT:BRAND. Smurrayinchester (talk) 17:42, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Bisto

(Also goes for Bisto) Smurrayinchester (talk) 10:29, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

kirk out

Created in 2024 and no etymology is provided, so I'm not sure it is related to Charlie Kirk (and thus potentially derogatory), but in any case it should be verified. — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:02, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

☪️ancer

☪️an☪️er

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 27 February 2026.

Derogatory terms for Islam. — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:12, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Meitei Huei

No books that I can see and hardly any web hits. (Even the main spelling is uncommon.) - -sche (discuss) 07:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Moglie

- -sche (discuss) 21:32, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

idle

"(transitive) To spend in idleness; to waste; to consume." Except I can't form a sentence that uses idle transitively in this sense. I came here after the "Teacher Strikes Idle Kids" headline came up, and "idle" as verb in this sense didn't feel right. (That sense is not listed at idle, and it's distinct from this sense.) It's very hard to search, so I'll leave for someone who understands this sense to search for it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:34, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

I guess this is the sense used when someone idles the hours/days/etc (usually, but not always, "away")? Here are cites of that. - -sche (discuss) 03:16, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

Merriam-Webster does give the sense "to make idle" with the usex "workers idled by a strike", and AHD gives "to make or cause to be unemployed or inactive: layoffs that idled 1,000 factory workers; a plant that was idled by a strike. Maybe this sense is used only in the context of labor relations? —Mahāgaja · talk 08:15, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

put on a bus

— SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 13:41, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

Postmas

Rfv-sense: "2. The week after Christmas(starting the day after Christmas) and ending New Year's day." Even searching together with "Christmas", all I've spotted is "postmas- ters" at a line break. - -sche (discuss) 02:31, 17 February 2026 (UTC)