Talk:pronunciation

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Spelling: nun or noun?[edit]

Now what's right, Pronunciation or Pronounciation (see pronounce -> Related)? --Newbie (CH) 15:12, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation is the standard spelling. (I went and fixed the link at pronounce.) See Wiktionary:List of common misspellings. —Muke Tever 22:35, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
But isn't it said as 'pronounciation'? At least I have always heard it so. Or I think so, since I won't hear much english apart from tv. 85.217.35.178 04:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
No, it is not said as 'pronounciation', it is 'pronənciation'. The verb is said as 'pronounce'. —Stephen (Talk) 22:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Why it is "nun"? What is the reason for "o" to drop off? That's what I'd like to know. 85.217.45.223 13:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
The "o" is not dropped out of pronunciation. On the contrary, an "o" in inserted in pronounce. The "o" is added to reflect our English pronunciation of pronounce. Pronunciation < Old French pronuncier < Late Latin pronunciare < Latin pronuntiare, from pro- + nuntiare < nuntius (messenger). —Stephen (Talk) 22:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Who pronounces it "proNOUNciation"?[edit]

The article gives two ways to pronounce this word:

  • /pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən/
  • /pɹəˌnaʊnsiˈeɪʃən/ (nonstandard)

Who uses the second one (which sounds like pro-nounce-ciation)? Gronky (talk) 06:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

pɹəˌnʌn.tsiˈeɪ.ʃən[edit]

Where does the [t] come from? <c> is pronounced as [s], why is there an affrication? Moreover, it doesn't concord with prə-nŭn'-sē-ā′-shən. --Explosivo (talk) 21:28, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The n is a voiced nasal alveolar stop and the s is a voiceless oral alveolar fricative. The t is what you get when you replace all the characteristics of the n with the characteristics of the s, except for the stop part- in other words, it's intermediate between the two. Having this show up in the pronunciation is no surprise at all- the question is whether this is better treated as phonemic or as a minor phonetic detail to be left out, like the aspiration on the p. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)