Talk:squally

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RFV discussion: March 2021

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Rfv-sense: unproductive field. OED has a single cite attributed to Marshall ("A crop of turneps, or of corn, which is broken by vacant unproductive patches, is said to be squally"), and our entry mentions Halliwell (don't know who or what this refers to). The Google Books results are consistent with a dictionary-only term. I suspect this is a figurative use of the weaving term that some farmers in Norfolk were in the habit of using many centuries ago, in which case it should be unciteable, but I'll bring it here anyway for completeness. This, that and the other (talk) 04:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@This, that and the other: probably {{R:Halliwell Dictionary}}. — SGconlaw (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for that. The Halliwell quote is identical to the Marshall quote above. This, that and the other (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@This, that and the other: references to Halliwell are likely to be mere mentions. You might have a look at the {{R:English Dialect Dictionary}}; it often has brief quotations like the OED, which you may then be able to hunt down at Google Books, the HathiTrust Digital Library, or the Internet Archive. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:47, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
EDD has the same "vacant unproductive patches" definition, and references only Marshall. This, that and the other (talk) 07:34, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@This, that and the other: looks like this will be hard to verify from written sources. — SGconlaw (talk) 09:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Indeed; I expect this will be deleted in a month or so. This, that and the other (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

cited. I have tweaked the definition, because it is clear from the cites I found that the unproductive patches are due to the ground being wet with poor drainage. Kiwima (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kiwima I am impressed - nice work! OED doesn't even acknowledge that this sense might exist, so we are outdoing them on an obsolete term, something that they seem to specialise in. This, that and the other (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)Reply