Talk:the one

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Could be a redirect to one#Noun. Of course, has connotations that are greatly hormone-enhanced. DCDuring TALK 16:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes. The article debate. This comes up time and time again. Have we reached any kind of consensus? Arguably combinations like these are so fixed that it would almost seem absurd to move everything to the noun entry. ---> Tooironic 23:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
How about the one and only, my one and only, the President, the Queen? For the most part the battle is over and "the" lost. This one is debatable. If I go to the dog pound to make a selection, I might well say "He/she/it/this/that/here/there is the one." If this were used in sentences like "The one brought me some lovely chocolates.", I might go along with the gag. DCDuring TALK 00:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Even some different orthography would lend credence to the possibly distinct "romantic" usage. "I think she is "the ONE"." or "I think he's "the" one." DCDuring TALK 00:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Strong keep. I also tagged it as (idiomatic, colloquial). Very common idiom in English. Facts707 11:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd say keep, I don't think the king and the queen are very comparable here. Seems to represent more than just the + one. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Keep at one, dropping article in title per our convention (cf. the wheel etc.) and per expectation in English. DCDuring, I would have one and only. DAVilla 10:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Probably a good one to have. I wonder if there are particular aspects of the use of "the" that elude folks. I would argue that there is very little to be said about "the one" that wouldn't be redundant to a full explication of this kind of use of "the". I don't think language learners will ever learn real English unless they can generalize this use of "the". Accordingly, I wish we could redirect to "the" all of the entries beginning with "the" (with exception, including especially proverbs and phrasebook entries). Perhaps we need a new kind of entry for expressions that are NISoP where all (or more than one of ?) the parts are essentially grammatical, as "the" and "one" are in this case.DCDuring TALK 14:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete or redirect, perhaps to the per DCDuring.​—msh210 (talk) 16:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

deleted. Now a redirect. -- Prince Kassad 17:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

RFD passed (note, someone removed my original RFD passed comment, and I'm not going to go through the page history to restore it). Mglovesfun (talk) 21:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


RFC discussion: June 2011[edit]

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I don't see the distinction between the one#Noun and the one#Pronoun and I don't think this is either. It seems to be a determiner fused-head NP or nominal#Noun. I suppose that would make it a phrase. DCDuring TALK 00:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

The plural seems a tad counter-intuitive. Does it actually exist? — Pingkudimmi 01:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
It you are looking for examples of our best work, entries like these are not the ones you should consider. DCDuring TALK 03:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm... That doesn't sound quite like the plural of something unique, or even merely special. I was hoping for something along the lines of a young lady's exes being collectively referred to as her the ones. In any case, the sense is already at one, as of this edit. This is exactly where it should be, IMO. Recommend delete. — Pingkudimmi 06:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I have RfVed the plural to see if there is any use of other than as fused head, unless I misunderstand the RfD and the definition. Is the definition just an attempt to put words to the fused-head use? DCDuring TALK 10:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I found this, which is just about right, except for the quotation marks. — Pingkudimmi 12:46, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
If we only find it in quotes and with "One" capitalized, that suggests to me that it is not normal English. DCDuring TALK 13:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I thought so too - it seems like the writer recognises it's a stretch. On the other hand, some such construction might be expected to highlight that it is the two-word unit that is being pluralised. (It is after all an unusual plural.) I found a citation that uses just single quotes and lower case, which I've put in the entry. Even allowing that, I'm not very confident we'll reach quorum. — Pingkudimmi 14:50, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Have you found any uses of "the one" in this sense used in any way other than as a predicate? I find it amusing too, that we don't have an entry for the One or One in religious or philosophical senses. DCDuring TALK 15:05, 4 June 2011 (UTC)