Talk:wokeness
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Rfv-sense: "The quality or state of holding left-wing views or attitudes, in a way that is deemed overzealous, performative, or insincere", added two days ago as a separate sense from "The quality or state of holding left-wing views or attitudes" (itself a derivative of "The quality or state of being woke, aware of social justice issues"). I am not sure if this is distinguishable as a separate sense, as opposed to being something to handle in a usage note about connotations like at woke...? - -sche (discuss) 09:29, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think aware is a sufficient characterization in the main definition? I think behavioral change is a necessary part of wokeness, at least talking the talk. The association with other political labels doesn't seem inherent to me, so usage notes and/or labels seem like a better place for such discussion. Also, is wokeness now usually used with positive valence? The woke page seems better, a good model for wokeness, though "the state of being woke" might be a better way of handling it, woke (adj.) being much more common, I think. DCDuring (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- About a third of the terms at woke#Derived terms, those with standard/universal affixes, also seem as if they might also be better defined by their connection with woke#Adjective. DCDuring (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- To be clear, I wasn't proposing to merge all three into "aware", only to merge "left-wing" and "left-wing in a way deemed performative". - -sche (discuss) 17:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- About a third of the terms at woke#Derived terms, those with standard/universal affixes, also seem as if they might also be better defined by their connection with woke#Adjective. DCDuring (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
The sense and RFV-sense tag was moved from wokeness to wokeism by Fgnievinski in diff. Same question as before about whether the given, very specific, sense is attested separately from the preceding sense and from defining it as sense 2 of wokeness. - -sche (discuss) 22:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- RFV-resolved by the fact that the user who added the redundant sense removed it from wokeness, and I folded the two senses together on wokeism? Are any other revisions needed to these two entries? - -sche (discuss) 17:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)