Template talk:R:itc:EDL

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@JohnC5: I want to write the documentation page, but I can't figure out how to use the "entry" parameter. Could you give a hand? --Barytonesis (talk) 01:39, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

@Barytonesis: Better? —JohnC5 01:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: Yes, thanks. --Barytonesis (talk) 18:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Move

@Rua, Vahagn Petrosyan, JohnC5: Can we move this to {{R:itc:EDL}}, while retaining this as an alias? --Victar (talk) 19:02, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

That's ok with me. —Rua (mew) 19:09, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Done! --Victar (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

I moved it back to {{R:De Vaan 2008}}. The people who prefer no lang prefix are as many as those who do, from what I remmber. --Dan Polansky (talk) 22:26, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky, why did you move it back? Also, without pinging anyone. You could have still used the old name as it still works as an alias. --Victar (talk) 16:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

That works both ways: those who prefer R:itc:EDL can use it as an alias. Again, the people who prefer no lang prefix for reference templates are as many as those who prefer lang prefix, from what I remember. However, I have no objections to the template being moved to {{R:EDL}} if that is what people prefer. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:51, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

In any case there should be :itc: in it, as it treats Italic languages. Lang prefixes help autocompletion too, so when I type T:R:ar:F into the search bar I see the complete template names of references dealing with Arabic and starting with F. In no case there should be reference templates R: + a three-letter acronym because such a name lacks distinctive character. One recognizes what {{R:sh:HJP}} is, because HJP in the context of Serbo-Croatian means Hrvatski jezični portal. Without this connection ”HJP” could mean anything. R:HJP is a terrible-terrible template name. Don’t create such templates.

I deny that there are people short of you who prefer no lang prefix. That’s just a reactionary reminiscence of the past when there was disorder of template names. Fay Freak (talk) 15:20, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

There is no need to deny anything or write inflammatory posts like the one above; there was a Beer parlour discussion about this, but I cannot find it now. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky, I'm going to move this back to {{R:itc:EDL}}. It's what the people who use this template, like myself, prefer. If you wish to continue using {{R:De Vaan 2008}} as an alias, or even {{R:EDL}}, you can do so. --Victar (talk) 15:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Fixes

@Rua, Vahagn Petrosyan, JohnC5: I propose two fixes to this template, can they please be applied?

• url should not use a link to a direct Archive.org node, these may break at any time; instead, use this: https://archive.org/download/MichielVaanEtymologicalDictionaryOfLatin_201811/Michiel%20Vaan%2C%20Etymological%20dictionary%20of%20Latin.pdf
• isbn should use hyphens: 978-90-04-16797-1

Thank you, 91.94.126.161 00:19, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello Pomeranian IP. I have removed the link to the pirate version altogether. I have also added hyphens to the ISBN as it seems important to you, although it makes no difference in practice. Vahag (talk) 09:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)