# User talk:Choor monster

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## Talk:seven-level screwdriver[edit]

I've responded there. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

## twice as small[edit]

Why nonstandard/prescribed? Seems okay to me, and in many formal texts. What makes "twice as less" proscribed is the fact that it should be "twice as *little*", or "twice as *much* less"; it's not wrong in the "twice" part. Equinox ◑ 15:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

- For a reference, see the preface to Orr
*Twice as Less*, 1987, which identifies both idioms as BEV. I disagree with your assessment of "twice as less".

- The issue is that most of the natural, logical scales start at 0 and work up. "Twice X" means X+X on such a scale, and "twice as blank", on the surface, means identify the scale used to measure blankness, then double on that scale. There is no natural scale for measuring back down. I mean, we all know what the phrases "twice as thin", "twice as dumb", etc., mean, but the normally implied mathematical sense of "twice" just doesn't work. So this is strike 1 to a prescriptionist.

- A related issue is scales typically carry a default. One end sticks out, the other doesn't. Without specifying, we implicitly understand "someone has attitude" to refer to
*bad*attitude, because that is what sticks out. A "poundage problem" is a reference to obesity, not to anorexia.

- The relatedness is that "twice" sticks out when it refers to doubling a size, and it does not stick out when referring to doubling a reciprocal of size. Violating expectations is strike 2 to a prescriptionist.

- And as we all know, prescriptionists jump into action at half-a-strike even.

- Also, I am unimpressed by usage in numerous formal texts as a measure of standardness. The quality of editing has gone way down hill over the past several decades. One of the twice as less citations, for example, is ungrammatical. Choor monster (
**talk**) 16:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)