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realize

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Looking at this diff: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=realise&curid=100835&diff=1978075&oldid=1919255&rcid=1805149 I'm taken aback by your edit-summary comment.

Do you really think such baiting in edit summaries is helpful?

May I suggest that you take your proposed methodology changes to Wiktionary:Beer parlour? You seem to be making edits directly at odds with very long-term established practices here. Lack of references for your changes makes them additionally suspect.

--Connel MacKenzie 23:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

colour

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You wrote that "the Federal Government uses -or endings, making colour the preferred spelling". If they use -or endings, then wouldn’t color be the preferred spelling? —Stephen 15:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

That was a Freudian slip, I guess. Thanks ;-) JackLumber 19:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

quit

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Wow. Really nice research on that; thanks for cleaning it up. Hopefully your changes will last for a long while now. --Connel MacKenzie 18:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

UK vs CE

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The tag {UK} is for words and expressions restricted to the British Isles. For terms also used in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and India as well as the UK, we use CE. It's shorter and simpler than listing all the Commonwealth countries. --EncycloPetey 22:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Are you sure bugger all is used in all those countries---especially Canada? JackLumber 22:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
No idea. I'm just answering your question about the use of {CE}. --EncycloPetey 22:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

freeway

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If you wish to dispite a valid sense, tag it with {{rfv-sense}}. Being bold as you were with freeway is simple vandalism. --Connel MacKenzie 22:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why do you think we have RFV? What gives you the impression that any of your recent edits are not controversial, in and of themselves? What makes you think that I should trust you over a very-solidly established, trustworthy contributor? Moreso, why should I, when their definition was clearly marked and obviously reasonable? Why should I trust your edits when they directly conflict with the references in front of me, as well as my own knowledge of the language? --Connel MacKenzie 22:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I see a minor problem: I was looking at this instead of this. Either way, they are both long-term contributors. But all that is beside the point. If you wish to remove a definition and you think I'm likely to roll it back, don't remove it; tag it with {{rfv-sense}} instead. If the definition isn't obvious vandalism, it is not OK to just be bold removing it (or you have me using the "V" word at you!) --Connel MacKenzie 22:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I see. I've tagged it with rfv-sense, and listed it on RFV. I'm going to merge this talk page section back onto my talk page. Would you like me to leave a link to there, from here, or leave this alone? --Connel MacKenzie 23:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Using “confer” in English to mean “cf.

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You said here that one cannot. Well, actually one can, although to do so is not a good idea as confer means “compare” in Latin, but something different (albeït related) in English. Basically, I agree with your revision, but not your assertion. † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 23:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Well, technically it's possible, but it's a horrible affectation. Kinda like writing "et cetera" for etc. or "exempli gratia" for e.g., with a(n important) difference---confer is an English word, and doesn't mean "compare"---not anymore, at least. I can't think of a serious publisher that uses confer for cf. JackLumber 23:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Agreed, although “et cetera” is OK and not that uncommon (common enough, as thence developed the admittedly horrible English word etceteras). † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 23:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, actually et cetera can be found, especially in older writing. JackLumber 23:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

summarise

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I've rolled back your edit there - why do you persist with POV changes, particularly amidst discussion? --Connel MacKenzie 23:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

1600s?

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Look up the founding date of Boston. No, it wasn't called the "US". Robert Ullmann 23:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Blocked 1 day, (sigh) 2nd notice, 2nd block. POV editing/reverting of color. If you have any evidence at all, add it to the talk page, (after tomorrow). I;m more patient than Connel, but your removal of content did finally get to me. Robert Ullmann 23:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Note the comment above: You were not blocked for no reason, you were blocked for removing information and pushing POV without any documentation, and revert warring. You have been warned and blocked twice now FOR CAUSE. Your whine on Connel's talk page is unjustified. Robert Ullmann 18:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Your account will be renamed

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23:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed

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07:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)