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Current and new votes
Ends | Title | Status/Votes |
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Sep 3 | User:ColumbaBushBot for bot status | passed |
Oct 11 | User:Catonif for admin | 28 0 4 |
Oct 24 | User:Ioaxxere for admin | 17 3 3 |
(=3) | [Wiktionary:Table of votes] | (=59) |
User:ColumbaBushBot for bot status
Nomination: I hereby request the Bot flag for User:ColumbaBushBot for the following purposes:
- For templates which moved to a new name, I would like to use Pywikibot to replace the Category:Assyrian_Neo-Aramaic_templates in articles via template.py. The bot won't be used in any way other way.
More info
- I test ran some edits with the bot Special:Contributions/ColumbaBushBot
- Having an approved bot account would help achieve the following (previously attempted by my own account in unintentional violation of WT:BOT)
- This bot will only be run via
python pwb.py template.py <old-template> <new-template>
for templates which have moved- If
<new-template>
doesn't exist, the commandline tool raises a warning and I won't proceed
- If
Schedule:
- Vote starts: 05:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Vote ends: 23:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Vote created: ColumbaBush (talk) 05:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion:
- Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2024/August#c-ColumbaBush-20240823070300-User:ColumbaBushBot
- Wiktionary talk:Votes/bt-2024-08/User:ColumbaBushBot for bot status
Support
- Support as long as I'm understanding correctly that all the templates you want to replace instances of are in Category:Assyrian Neo-Aramaic templates or its subcategories. — excarnateSojourner (ta·co) 20:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- yes that's correct, only those ColumbaBush (talk) 00:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support ܐܢܐ (talk) 04:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- This ghost vote thing is getting out of hand. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- sorry, I wasn’t aware how to signܐܢܐ (talk) 04:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- This ghost vote thing is getting out of hand. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: looks good to me. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: The bot would save a lot of time. Davi6596 (talk) 01:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Edits looked correct. Fay Freak (talk) 08:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Operator seems competent in bot-writing and the edits seem correct. Benwing2 (talk) 03:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
Abstain
Decision
Passes 6-0-0. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 06:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
User:Catonif for admin
Nomination: I hereby nominate Catonif (talk • contribs) as a local English Wiktionary Administrator. He is a long-term editor and has made a lot of contributions.
Schedule:
- Vote starts: 04:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Vote ends: 04:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Vote created: Svartava (talk) 04:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Acceptance:
- Languages: it, en-3, fr-1
- Timezone: UTC+1/+2 (CET)
- I accept. Catonif (talk) 09:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Support
- Support as nominator Svartava (talk) 06:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support
Although the acceptance is still pending,[T]his user has already been using the Template Editor and Extended Mover rights. In addition, there is currently a reason why it would be helpful if this user were able to delete pages. The contributions made by this user seem to be good. So, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be appropriate to upgrade this user to an admin. Kutchkutch (talk) 07:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC) - Support User is level-headed and could benefit from the tools. Vininn126 (talk) 09:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wholeheartedly Support, kind of disappointed I didn't nom myself. Thadh (talk) 10:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Fenakhay (حيطي · مساهماتي) 11:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Fay Freak (talk) 14:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support ―Biolongvistul (talk) 14:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Vahag (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, and I apologise for not setting up the vote myself. PUC – 18:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, I'm glad there wasn't any serious reason behind it. :) Catonif (talk) 15:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Reworded my vote as Oppose. PUC – 19:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, I'm glad there wasn't any serious reason behind it. :) Catonif (talk) 15:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support--Urszag (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. A better candidate is hard to imagine. Nicodene (talk) 15:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, the first in almost two years. Ioaxxere (talk) 05:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Imetsia (talk (more)) 14:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Theknightwho (talk) 19:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Megathonic (talk) 14:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 14:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Good entries. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 04:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Hmmm... should Catonif or should Catonif not be an admin? 🎲 Proficiency in more than one language, 💬 maintaining composure, 🌺 edits galore, 📊 entertaining jellyfish video 🪼 on the user page... such a green flag! 💚 "Don't talk to me." 💔 Flame, not lame (talk)
- Support — BABR・talk 04:15, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support AG202 (talk) 15:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Chihunglu83 19:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support əkrəm. 08:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Einstein2 (talk) 21:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support. lattermint (talk) 17:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I do not know this person! (jk) Trimpulot (talk) 09:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
I Oppose the very notion of Catonif not being an admin. PUC – 19:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Abstain
- Abstain: I am not familiar with this user. DonnanZ (talk) 13:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Abstain: I don't know the user. --Davi6596 (talk) 10:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Abstain: Surprisingly, I've never encountered them either. Denazz (talk) 19:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Abstain: Not familiar either, but I'm not going to stand in their way. --Robbie SWE (talk) 17:38, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Decision
User:Ioaxxere for admin
Nomination: I hereby nominate Ioaxxere (talk • contribs) as a local English Wiktionary Administrator.
Schedule:
- Vote starts: 13:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Vote ends: 13:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Vote created: Svartava (talk) 13:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Acceptance:
- Languages: en
- Timezone: UTC+5
See previous votes at Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2023-02/User:Ioaxxere for admin and Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2023-11/User:Ioaxxere for admin.
Support
- Support Ioaxxere has been here for a lot of time now and is pretty active. He has been nominated before, but there is a saying that “all the best users need 3 admin votes”. Svartava (talk) 13:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The saying actually goes that the best people get 5 successful admin votes Denazz (talk) 21:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
This might actually be the sixth.Svartava (talk) 21:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- The saying actually goes that the best people get 5 successful admin votes Denazz (talk) 21:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support but technically voting isn't supposed to start until Ioaxxere accepts the nomination, which he hasn't yet. — BABR・talk 13:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 19:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Fenakhay (حيطي · مساهماتي) 18:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Einstein2 (talk) 11:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support I do not carry forward judgements on previous votes, it would be confirmation bias, so glad I don’t remember them. Participation of the user in discussions is a bit low still – though apparently not the edit count in general, in comparison to other recent admin votes – but after all nobody is forced to get into disputes on the internet and it is also a good trait not to. And this user is already interface administrator so the risks from getting deletion or banning rights is negligible; for the latter rights in particular I find it likely that he won’t exercise them as much as other admins do, extrapolating the low participation in controversies, rather for more obvious vandals than subtle dismantlements of the dictionary. Say it’s a junior admin and in three years he will mature but we will have it done already. Fay Freak (talk) 19:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Great user, has a clue and a genuine need for administrative tools (the only real criteria for adminship). I acknowledge the concerns below, but an administrator does not have to be a jack of all trades or a friendly community leader in my view as long as they are experienced, trustworthy and have a real use for the tools given by the role, which the illustrious Ioaxxere certainly possesses. LunaEatsTuna (talk) 00:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support this time. I think the user has really grown a lot as an editor and their understanding of the site has grown a lot, among other things. Vininn126 (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Despite what the nominee himself claims below, I do feel he acts much more rationally and much less impulsively that he did before. I do not believe past votes failing should be taken into consideration, it is the present situation that should be considered. Catonif (talk) 08:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support Ioaxxere has learned quite a lot recently and generally acted in a calm and considered manner, as well as being willing to put a lot of time into fixing UI-related issues. For this reason I made him an interface admin recently, even in the absence of adminship (which had a precedent in User:Erutuon), and he has shown himself to be a capable and trustworthy interface admin, so I believe he will make a good admin as well. Benwing2 (talk) 08:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support I supported this user the last 2 times he was nominated and I see no reason to act differently now. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 19:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support HumblingFumbling (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support Binarystep (talk) 05:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support
for supporting the unblock of Wonderfool. lattermint (talk) 16:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC) - Support Theknightwho (talk) 16:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 07:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose. This is the third admin vote for Ioaxxere in two years (the prior two having failed outright), and the last vote wasn't even a year ago. It just feels like we’re hoping that the electorate is different enough this time. In the other cases where an admin was voted upon three times before becoming an admin, there were 3 years between the first and last votes for PUC
and almost 5 years between the first and last votes for Equinox(edit: Equinox was elevated in March 2009, but then was de-adminned in 2012 for deleting the main page, but was re-elevated in September 2013, so not the best example). Ioaxxere has put in good work, but I still don't see what's changed since the last time and why they'd need admin tools, and this is mentioned at User talk:Ioaxxere § Adminship, where I was indirectly mentioned. We should have waited to hear why Ioaxxere wants to be admin now before starting this vote. Also, I'm sure that the canvassing that occurred in the last vote may still be on people's minds. AG202 (talk) 15:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)- Regarding the need for admin tools, I'm quite sure Ioaxxere would be interested in helping out clearing the huge backlogs of the RFs and the pages which hang around for weeks and months in CAT:D. About "what's changed since the last time", is that Ioaxxere is a much more experienced editor now than when his first vote was conducted, and would thus be much more aware of rules now, which was apparently the main concern last time. Svartava (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would really prefer for Ioaxxere to answer this himself. AG202 (talk) 21:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think your assessment is pretty accurate. Ioaxxere (talk) 00:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- If that’s the case, this is why I wish we had a deleter role. I’m fine with you having the power to delete pages since we do have a backlog, but I’m still not the most comfortable with you having the other powers that being an administrator brings, such as blocking or dealing with user disputes. Administrator power shouldn’t just be given to active members with a number of edits (which is part of why I’ve pushed against being nominated myself several times until recently), but folks that people trust to handle running the project. After the whole Equinox scandal (which still leaves a sour taste in my mouth and I’m disappointed that people still praise him knowing what he did), the issues of admin not enforcing our own policies, and severely increased admin inactivity, I’ve sensed a need for a more serious shift on this project, and this nomination doesn’t seem to be moving us in that direction. AG202 (talk) 00:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think your assessment is pretty accurate. Ioaxxere (talk) 00:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would really prefer for Ioaxxere to answer this himself. AG202 (talk) 21:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the canvassing last vote was definitely problematic, and part of the reason I didn't vote, but to me it genuinely seemed like he just got really excited and started yapping, without realizing that was canvassing.
- Regardless, @AG202 @Svartava Ioaxxere still has not accepted the nomination and the voting should not have started until he did. This vote should probably be closed pending his acceptance. — BABR・talk 17:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Babr He's not even edited after the vote began, and I've seen many votes where the voting had begun before acceptance. Svartava (talk) 17:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose I'm not convinced that enough has changed since the last 2 votes. Megathonic (talk) 03:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)- The main issue brought up during the last votes was that Ioaxxere was new and inexperienced, how has that not changed? Svartava (talk) 04:28, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- My thoughts: I don't feel any more qualified or experienced than I did then. And those with whom I've interacted in the past will probably agree that I haven't changed or grown as a person. But @AG202 noted that the outcome could hinge on a changing "electorate", so I'm curious to see how that pans out. Ioaxxere (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the need for admin tools, I'm quite sure Ioaxxere would be interested in helping out clearing the huge backlogs of the RFs and the pages which hang around for weeks and months in CAT:D. About "what's changed since the last time", is that Ioaxxere is a much more experienced editor now than when his first vote was conducted, and would thus be much more aware of rules now, which was apparently the main concern last time. Svartava (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose too soon. Denazz (talk) 22:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're just jealous. Vininn126 (talk) 22:27, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for supporting the unblock of Wonderfool. -- Huhu9001 (talk) 10:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Abstain
- Abstain. Ioaxxere is a great user, and I think they can be a great admin if they actually want to engage in this kind of activity (especially welcoming and guiding newbies and combatting vandalism). Their recent interactions of this kind seem calm and effective, but few in number, and I'm not convinced this is something Ioaxxere actually wants to do more frequently. I might be wrong, but the nominee sounds like someone who just wants to code and make English entries. Thadh (talk) 18:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Admins should indeed "just" want to contribute to the site. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 07:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- There's no need to be an admin for that. Unless the user somehow needs anything adminship could give them - deletion and blocking, two things I don't see the nominee using in the near future based on their recent interactions and contributions - is there really any need in granting those? Thadh (talk) 09:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- “Adminship isn't primarily about whether someone truly needs the tools, it is about whether someone can be trusted with the tools.”
- Aside from that, the nominee would definitely be using the delete button. Svartava (talk) 10:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're not quoting me, so I don't see how that should change my vote? I simply disagree with that statement. Thadh (talk) 12:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- There's no need to be an admin for that. Unless the user somehow needs anything adminship could give them - deletion and blocking, two things I don't see the nominee using in the near future based on their recent interactions and contributions - is there really any need in granting those? Thadh (talk) 09:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Admins should indeed "just" want to contribute to the site. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 07:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Abstain Upon further reflection of what Fay Freak said, my concerns aren't strong enough to warrant an oppose vote. Megathonic (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Abstain, can't recall interacting with Ioaxxere all that much, but I will not stand in their way. --Robbie SWE (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Decision
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