User talk:Mingrellaz

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Vahag (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for writing to me, I will try to provide accurate and real facts and historical revision. thanks for your help Mingrellaz (talk) 16:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Mingrelian transliteration

You added Mingrelian Transliteration 1984 and Mingrelian Transliteration 1930 to this. What are they? Vahag (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

ii Mingrellaz (talk) 17:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

linguist sometimes use different variants which are sometimes not understood by the general public, so everyone should know that, mingrelian and laz languages belong to the zan language group, so use the generally accepted transaction Mingrellaz (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're saying. Where are the Mingrelian Transliteration 1984 system and the Mingrelian Transliteration 1930 system defined and used? I have never seen Mingrelian transliterated like that. Vahag (talk) 18:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

1984 was created for the Zan language. And this model is used by the Laz language for newspapers, school textbooks and press for many years, and this model is also used by the Mingrelian English-Megrelian Language Dictionary, Tatoeba, Glosbe and other online dictionaries, as well as by some linguists Mingrellaz (talk) 19:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Here are many transliteration models that use the Laz language.The Mingrelian language uses the same. Mingrelian and Laz were one language a few years ago, scholars call both languages together - Zan language

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Laz_transliteration Mingrellaz (talk) 19:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

We do not recognize a Zan language on Wiktionary. Only Laz (code lzz) and Mingrelian (code xmf). There is a considerable Laz corpus in the Latin script. There are books, dictionaries and newspapers, Twitter and Facebook posts. But on Wiktionary, Laz should be entered in the Georgian script. To help people convert from Latin to Georgian I have made the chart at WT:LZZ TR.

No such corpus exists for Mingrelian. The online resources you are referring to are not serious, should not be relied upon, and no chart for converting them into Georgian is necessary. Accordingly, I will remove your additions. Vahag (talk) 15:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Of course, that's your opinion and I respect it. You can add or delete what you think based on your personal opinion. But here is the second issue related to Mingrelian transliteration, it is a real fact and it is already a standard. Others would know about it, I just don't understand why it should be artificially blocked. Mingrellaz (talk) 16:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Because you made up that transliteration system. I have been working on Mingrelian with your relative User:კვარია for over two years, and have never seen Mingrelian transltirated like that. Vahag (talk) 17:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

This is not my invention or creation, it is a model created by scholars of the Mingrelian and Laz language. Years will pass and you will see that I was right. I wish you good luck. I wish you success in your work. Mingrellaz (talk) 18:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)