User talk:Perigrinate Avellana

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Hello, you mention on your main user page that you'll be editing Japanese entries. Welcome to that effort! 😄 What is your self-assessment of your Japanese abilities? Could you please add that to the {{babel}} template on your user page? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 20:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

さといも, etc.

Just wondering if you were aware of the existing previous move from 里芋 to さといも in the page history. —Fish bowl (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I was. Put it back if you wish, tho' leave the category tags on 里芋 please. Perigrinate Avellana (talk) 00:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

鴎蔓

Defined as "plants of genus Vincetoxicum"

How should I interpret that:

1. all plants of genus V.
2. any group of plants of genus V.
3. any plants of genus V.
4. all species (taxonomic groups) in genus V.

Or is it really "any plant of genus V. (spp.)?

I've wondered how nouns in other languages, esp. non-European, correspond to English determiner + noun expressions, which are how we define many organism names.

It's also a problem in English where species is used to mean one or more individual of one or more taxonomic species or the taxonomic species itself/themselves. DCDuring (talk) 01:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Its a general name for plants within the genus, which in Japanese is カモメヅル属. So the answer is, I think, all of the above. An English example of this is that everything in the genus Geranium can be called a geranium in a generic sense, and you can refer to mixed group of them as geraniums.

English pluralisation is a nightmare yes. In this case it's what happens when you acquire your scientific vocabulary from Latin and the singular and the plural are the same. Perigrinate Avellana (talk) 02:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

So, is a proper definition "a plant or plants of species of genus V. or the species or genus of swallowworts." ?

Alternatively, finessing matters of number and individual organism vs. taxon: "swallowwort (Vincetoxicum (spp.))" ?

Or "swallowwort (Vincetoxicum (spp.)" ? DCDuring (talk) 08:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Should particular species, native to or popular in Japan, be singled out with "especially" ? DCDuring (talk) 08:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)