Wiktionary:Votes/2011-06/Redirecting combining characters

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Redirecting combining characters[edit]

  • Voting on: Every Unicode character listed in the category "nonspacing mark" (Mn), but for which a non-combining version exists, should, as a 0th-namespace page title, be a redirect to its non-combining version.
    • Example: this entry (combining acute accent) can redirect to this entry (acute accent).
    • Rationale 1: "combining acute accent" and "non-combining acute accent" are two ways of representing the same character. Basically, any distinction between them is only meaningful to computers. Their technical differences, such as their Unicode codepoints, can be placed in only one entry, along with everything else we have to say about the acute accent. Wiktionary is made by humans for humans.
    • Rationale 2: When the title of an entry is a combining character, common tasks such as typing the title and linking to the entry are usually very problematic. These entries are relatively unreachable to users below a certain level of knowledge of Unicode.


  • Vote starts: 00:01, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23.59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Support[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Daniel 00:33, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg SupportRuakhTALK 00:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support.​—msh210 (talk) 00:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
    Argh. I just realized a wording quasiproblem with the vote. The change to be effected says "should... be a redirect" while the example says "can redirect" (emphasis supplied in both cases). While the proposed change is of course normative and the example presumably informative anyway, I'd nonetheless like to explicitly clarify my intent: "should".​—msh210 (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
    Ditto. By the way, I never actually checked . . . exactly how many entries are we voting on, here? —RuakhTALK 19:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
    Beats me. There are 1199 Mn characters. Certainly not all of them have non-combining counterparts. I'd venture a wild guess that most of the first eighty do, and that few of the others do.​—msh210 (talk) 20:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Bequw τ 02:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Prince Kassad 03:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support Tempodivalse [talk] 17:17, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 17:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg SupportInternoob (DiscCont) 00:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support. While we should reference the relevant unicode characters, our interest should be in the glyph itself. DAVilla 16:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
  10. Symbol support vote.svg Support Jusjih 07:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]

Abstain[edit]

Decision[edit]

Passes per unanimity. --Daniel 06:46, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we can have a standard message template ({{redirects-from}}?) that says something similar to what's at α΄. --Bequw τ 17:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I created Category:Redirected combining characters and populated it a little. I'm so proud I could make its members actually be displayed and clickable! (while they aren't displayed or clickable in other categories, or even at the Recent Changes or the Watchlist, and I used an arbitrary kludge to be able to do that). I used simple CSS to make that happen, so you guys will need to clear your caches to see the magic. --Daniel 18:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)