Wiktionary:Votes/bt-2007-05/User:SemperBlottoBot

User:SemperBlottoBot

• Bringing this from Wiktionary:Beer parlour (which is where Wiktionary:Bots says to go, but that isn't how we actually do it any more); SemperBlotto is requesting the Bot flag for SemperBlottoBot (talk • contribs).
• Vote ends: May 26th, 2007, 23:59:59Z
• Vote started by: —Ruakh_TALK 21:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
• Discussion: It is intended to run under the direct supervision of User:SemperBlotto to load the conjugated forms of Italian verbs (of which there are very many). Details are on its User page.

Support

1. Support —Ruakh_TALK 21:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
3. Support Tohru 00:17, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
4. Support, subject to the following:
   • An appropriate format must be used. A host of recent contributions from another user that giving Italian verb forms have been of the form (for example, for fa) "third-person singular indicative present tense of fare", but is not marked off from the rest of the text in any way. Wikification is not enough, because other words in the text can also be wikified. At the very least, the infinitive should be italicised, and the form I prefer is third-person singular indicative present tense of fare, the italics showing that this is just a cross-reference and not a definition as such, and the bold text denoting a headword. [Templates {{gerund of}}, {{past participle of}}, {{present participle of}} and {{form of}} are used - adjust them if you want. (SB)]
   • (optional) Ideally, the link should be to "verb#Italian|verb" rather than just to "verb"; in the example above, "fare" is also an English word. [No problem. Done (SB)]
   • (optional) Ideally, the grammatical content will be wikified too; hence third-person singular indicative present tense of fare
   • first-, second- and third-person to be hyphenated, as they are attributive phrases. [Can be done. (SB)] — Paul G 18:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
     • See curare for most of these requests fulfilled (forgot to hyphenate) SemperBlotto 22:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Hyphenated now (see ignorare) SemperBlotto 10:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
     • The best way to format it is to use <span class="use-with-mention">blah blah form of <span class="mention">[[lemma]]</span></span> (as the various templates do), so people can control the display for themselves; see Category:Form of templates for instructions how to do so. (Personally I prefer an all-italics format — italicize the description because it's a cross-reference and not a definition, and italicize the lemma because it's a reference to a word qua word — but fortunately the CSS customization means we don't need to impose our preferences on each other.) —Ruakh_TALK 19:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
5. Support EncycloPetey 20:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Hopefully it can be coopted to help with Latin in the near future, once the entry forms are worked out. --EncycloPetey 20:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
6. Support Medellia 22:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC) I likewise hope to "borrow" its use for a variety of Romance languages. Medellia 22:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
7. Support Connel MacKenzie 02:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) No worse than the Spanish version, but I remain hopeful that the English translation of the inflected form will also be provided for each and every one. --Connel MacKenzie 02:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
8. Support Barmar 05:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
9. Support Atelaes 05:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC) I intend to, one day, implement such a bot for Ancient Greek as well. Although, I must admit it would be nice if we could get "Random Page" to skip such inflected forms.

   http://tools.wikimedia.de/~cmackenzie/rnd-wikt.html "Random Page by language thingy" does skip "form-of" entries, but lags a day behind the last XML dump (lately, this means it is updated once every two weeks.) --Connel MacKenzie 17:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

10. Support H. (talk) 09:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Similarly, I hope this can once be done for Dutch as well, and for any language, actually.
11. Support Robert Ullmann 12:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC) along with Connel's note; there is a problem with our format for these entries; they contain no English; I've been thinking about this since the Spanish bot entries; but otherwise good
12. Support Beobach972 17:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC) (— Beobach972 17:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC))
13. Support Cynewulf 15:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Decision

• With a vote of 12-0-0, the bot flag is approved. --EncycloPetey 03:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)