Talk:melange

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Used outside Canada?[edit]

Is this word ever used outside of Canada? I use it all the time, but it always seems to baffle foreigners. --Bran

Usage[edit]

Yes, the word is often used correctly... However, it would seem that some people are a little obsessed with the fictional work Dune, which refers to a drug as mélange. —This unsigned comment was added by 62.25.109.195 (talk) at 12:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC).

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"(fiction) A fictional drug in Frank Herbert's science-fiction Dune series, used to lengthen life, flavor food, heighten awareness, probe the memories of one's ancestors, and induce prescience." --Yair rand 06:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

WT:CFI#Fictional universes. It needs citing outside of Herbet's works. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Moved from WT:RFD#melange --Yair rand 00:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

All the uses I can find for that sense on a quick couple of b.g.c. searches are within the context of the Dune universe. The closest I found to an independent use is a book about David Lynch, but even that is doing a kind of literary analysis of the Dune books. It's also not listed in Oxford's dictionary of science fiction (either the print or on-line edition), which I know has a network of die-hard sci-fi fans constantly combing for additional citations. --EncycloPetey 02:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Fails. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:10, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Striking, per Mglovesfun (talkcontribs). —RuakhTALK 13:35, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


Bill Moyers' usage[edit]

For the record, I am pretty sure I heard Bill Moyers earlier today on PBS on his Moyers & Company program in a long interview with Luis Alberto Urrea, use melange in a similar sense to the way it exists in Dune. Are we sure the term does not predate Dune? Or is Moyers (wittingly or unwittingly) coining a new word? Regardless, the apparent meaning of the usage in this instance seemed to be like the spice melange, only in an abstract sense, in other words, to mean any nearly priceless/possibly-mythical commodity being singularly sought out by the men of an age or geological setting. --72.173.160.58 21:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there any chance you can give us the sentence he used? Equinox 21:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Will be in this (http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-between-two-worlds-life-on-the-border/) video (which I was only able to find via a link on another site! Other than Moyer's that is) --184.21.215.174 09:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
EDITED: So for example. In this (hypothetical) usage; the caterpillar fungus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_sinensis) as featured in Summer Pasture (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566405/) would be an example of "melange"; only except you would unlikely use the word itself as the usage is abstract, and caterpillar fungus is concrete.--184.21.215.174 09:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I originally posted this. In retrospect it's probably unclear the intended meaning. Moyer's could well have just meant a concoction of valuable resources, minerals etc., but if so it was not a very well articulated notion. A colourful way to say "or whatever" perhaps. Either way it's inclusive.--184.21.215.174 12:09, 22 November 2012 (UTC)