Talk:голоден
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Wikitiki89
@Benwing2, Guldrelokk, Atitarev, Wikitiki89: Wouldn't it be useful to have a CAT:Russian short-form adjectives or the like? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 20:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam Maybe ... it isn't so easy to implement, though; either we'd have to manually add the category to every such non-lemma page or we'd have to implement an ugly Russian-specific hack in
{{inflection}}to add the category if the appropriate combination of inflections was seen. Benwing2 (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)- @Per utramque cavernam, Benwing2: I personally don't see the need and there are max 4 short forms. They are not lemmas and shouldn't have glosses. It may be beneficial to categorise lemma adjectives as HAVING short forms (maybe). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 03:06, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Atitarev: Speaking of lemmas, why does the entry дедов (dedov) say it has no short forms why it has no long forms preserving even its nominal declension? The other group of possessive adjectives, and a very lively one, in -ин (-in), too only has a short nominative, but папин (papin) again says it has ‘no short forms’. Guldrelokk (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Atitarev: Yes, I'm not suggesting we categorise го́лоден, го́лодно, голодна́ and голодны́, but го́лоден, вели́к, мал, etc. Or as you say, lemmas having short forms. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to categorize either short forms or adjectives that have short forms. Most adjectives have short forms. What might be useful to categorize would be short-form-only adjectives. And you're right that дедов (dedov) shouldn't say "no short forms", since it is a short form. --WikiTiki89 17:51, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Atitarev: Yes, I'm not suggesting we categorise го́лоден, го́лодно, голодна́ and голодны́, but го́лоден, вели́к, мал, etc. Or as you say, lemmas having short forms. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Atitarev: Speaking of lemmas, why does the entry дедов (dedov) say it has no short forms why it has no long forms preserving even its nominal declension? The other group of possessive adjectives, and a very lively one, in -ин (-in), too only has a short nominative, but папин (papin) again says it has ‘no short forms’. Guldrelokk (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Aren’t these pages created by bots anyway? Guldrelokk (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Guldrelokk, Benwing2: @Guldrelokk, they need to be fixed but I don't know how. Benwing2 might get around when he has time? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Guldrelokk, Atitarev, Wikitiki89 "No short forms" is intended for normal (long-form) adjectives. For special adjectives like those in -ин and -ев, we can make the message say whatever we want it to say; let me know what it should say and I'll change it when I have time. Benwing2 (talk) 09:54, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think saying nothing is a good option. --WikiTiki89 14:18, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Guldrelokk, Atitarev, Wikitiki89 "No short forms" is intended for normal (long-form) adjectives. For special adjectives like those in -ин and -ев, we can make the message say whatever we want it to say; let me know what it should say and I'll change it when I have time. Benwing2 (talk) 09:54, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Guldrelokk, Benwing2: @Guldrelokk, they need to be fixed but I don't know how. Benwing2 might get around when he has time? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam, Benwing2: I personally don't see the need and there are max 4 short forms. They are not lemmas and shouldn't have glosses. It may be beneficial to categorise lemma adjectives as HAVING short forms (maybe). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 03:06, 23 April 2018 (UTC)