Talk:得很

RFD discussion: January–July 2019

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得很

Nominated by @Geographyinitiative:

I consider this obvious SoP; this is a complement phrase (补语短语); 得多 and 得好 are similar constructions; 得很 does not appear as a word in the Chinese dictionaries 现代汉语词典7, 现代汉语规范词典3, 教育部國語辭典簡編本, or 教育部重編國語辭典修訂本; such a commonly used construction could not have been accidentally skipped- it was skipped because it is not a word

—Suzukaze-c◇◇ 06:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Please note 得很 dehen is in the Taiwan TOCFL vocab. list. For those studying for and taking TOCFL tests its useful to keep dehen. It appears in 進階級, line 234. — This unsigned comment was added by 185.41.231.203 (talk).

I see it in the list there. I guess it could be a word? --Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:48, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

It's not necessarily a "word", but a phrase that merits inclusion IMO. 很 is an adverb, which makes it an unusual complement for 得. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 06:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Note: While this sequence of characters does occur sometimes in text, the 很 does not necessarily modify 得. For example, take the sentence "他喜欢吃西瓜，吃得很多。" (He likes to eat watermelon, [he] eats very much.) In this excerpt, 很 unarguably modifies 多, not 得. In Chinese, 得 (de, neutral tone) doesn't mean anything on its own. It simply exists as a particle to separate verbs and adverbs. 很 is an adverb that describes adjectives and other adverbs, but not particles like 得. Personally, I haven't seen it in text myself, but I'll believe 185.41.231.203 that it occurs on the Taiwanese TOCFL vocab list. Can someone please confirm this? Johnny Shiz (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

We are not talking about this kind of incorrect parsing; the entry has examples to show how it's used. As Geographyinitiative has said, it is in the TOCFL vocab list (specifically 進階級). — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 08:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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• RFD kept. No consensus to delete. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 04:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)