Talk:쿵후

@Atitarev Since the word begins with ᄏ instead of ᄀ, could it be from English? —suzukaze (t・c) 11:23, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: Naver dictionary just says ← [ 중국어 ] gongfu [ 功夫 ] and there's a mix-up between aspirated and unaspirated initial consonants, as you know from similar discussions. I don't mind if you add "... influenced by English...". The Japanese Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about the English intermediate source either for the Japanese phonetic borrowings. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:34, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: Also, the English [f] invariably becomes [pʰ] in Korean but here, an attempt was made to match the Mandarin pronunciation but they got it wrong. I think a borrowing from the English "kung fu" would be more like 캉푸 (kangpu). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:54, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

According to 외래어 표기법 규정 보기 | 국립국어원, the standard Hangul transcription of English kung fu would be 컹푸 /ˌkʌŋ ˈfuː/ or 쿵푸 /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/. The standard transcription of Mandarin 功夫 would be 궁푸. Wyang (talk) 12:03, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Frank. My mistake, 컹푸 (keongpu) is definitely better than 캉푸 (kangpu). It's neither English or Mandarin transliteration then but something in between or random. I wonder why you're using /f/, not /pʰ/ with ᄑ. Did you mean it? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 12:31, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

The IPAs above are for English, not Korean. Sorry for the confusion... Wyang (talk) 12:40, 25 December 2017 (UTC)