Talk:I need a dictionary

RFD discussion: February–April 2016

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I need a dictionary

Per Romanophile's suggestion. On the off chance that somebody uses Wiktionary for their translation needs and yet still wants a dictionary, they can make do with I need a ... and dictionary. As above, I'm also nominating all bluelinked translations. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 16:59, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Actually I don't consider this one particular spurious. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:18, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Keep. If we extend this argument too far, we don't need a definition for dictionary, because using Wiktionary implies knowing what one is. bd2412 T 20:43, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

  That doesn't quite work. You can know what a dictionary is without knowing the word "dictionary". Metaknowledge was implying that if you are using a dictionary, you won't need to ask someone for one. But in my mind, that also doesn't quite hold, because you could memorize the phrase and then use it later when you don't have a dictionary. But I agree that if someone needs to say this, I need a ... + dictionary is quite sufficient. Delete. --WikiTiki89 21:09, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete per Wikitiki89. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 10:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete, then delete the entire phrasebook and start from scratch with entries that real-world phrasebooks use. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete per SB. DCDuring TALK 11:33, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete per SB. --Droigheann (talk) 13:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Keep I found exactly one phrasebook that has it: an Ukrainian-English phrasebook. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Wow. Btw I know of exactly one phrasebook which translates into many languages My hovercraft is full of eels. Just saying. --Droigheann (talk) 17:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Meh. Point taken, I kind of asked for that response. :p --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:36, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

• Delete. First, since in Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-12/Removing phrasebook editors were split approximately fifty-fifty, it would be in keeping with the consensus principle to err on the more exclusive side when pondering candidate selection criteria. google books:"phrasebook", "I need a dictionary" finds only one phrasebook, unlike google books:"phrasebook", "I am thirsty". Thus, it seems that we could use the lemming principle to exclude this "I need X" item while keeping some phrasebook items, at least for English. Disclaimer: there was a vote that proposed something like a lemming principle for the phrasebook and it failed; it is Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2010-10/Phrasebook CFI and the opposers cited other languages than English; but for English there should be enough phrasebooks published to use something like a lemming principle. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:15, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
• RFD failed. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 21:52, 1 April 2016 (UTC)